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  1. I've recently noticed that the wiki page for Kerbol says that it has no biomes. Well...
  2. I'm trying to fix biomes in GregroxMun's Alien Space Programs, which was made for 1.0.5 but biomes don't work in 1.2 or 1.3. I discovered that the colour values that Kopernicus biomes use just needed to be changed to match the KSP 1.2 biome map colours. I suspect these colours were changed to match the new KerbNet biome maps. Here's the changes I've done so far to Eve, but I'm missing two biomes yet. I got the colour values from the ScanSat image posted to the KSP Wiki for Eve. Two biomes (craters and atasuki lake or however that's spelled) are missing as they seemed too close a match to other biome colours, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. Is there a better colour map somewhere I can look at? [21 JUN 2017] Found it here: https://github.com/Kopernicus/kittopia-dumps, which is a copy of the stock system dumped into Kopernicus-compatible config files. It contained the full biome map for Eve and others.
  3. One of the features I have always found a little frustrating is the lack of science from space. There are tons of biomes on planets, and a few biome specific experiments in low orbit, but mostly we just have space low and space high. I find there's a bit of a science drought between getting to Kerbin orbit and landing on Mun, after which science comes in huge quantities. Given that satellite contracts are offered differentiating things like equatorial, retrograde, polar, tundra and Molnya orbits, it seems to me there might be an interesting way of making actual space flight worthwhile beyond being simply a method of getting from one celestial body to another if being in different categories of orbit could grant science as separate biomes. It would give an incentive to actually do something other than launch to and equatorial orbit and just head straight for Mun.
  4. Installed 1.2, now minimus has become a lot more interesting. It looks like the biome map is bleeding through the terrain. Is there anyway to fix this? This only happens when I am at a low altitude, below 10000 metres. Log:http://pastebin.com/wwxC2BtE
  5. I've landed successfully on both Mun and Minmus. Yay! Now, I want to get as much science as possible from the different surface biomes. What's the most efficient way? I could create a lander with a big gas tank that could "hop" from the first biome to a second and maybe even a third, letting me get 2 or 3 biomes per round trip. I could attempt an Apollo style orbiter / lander separation, and dock with the orbiter between each surface expedition. I could make a rover and, with luck, drive to 1 or 2 nearby biomes. Or I could skip all that and just head to Duna. What's the best way to progress in career mode? In particular, I think I'd measure efficiency in science per hour of play time. But am also interested in science per kerbin dollar.
  6. In KSP, Science is acquired by performing experiments while "landed," "in flight," "splashed down," or "in space high/low." You get different results based on which biome you are in, so you would get two completely new results by just walking ten meters across a biome border. Not only is this unrealistic, but it also encourages grinding different biomes for science, performing the same experiments over and over again when you would not expect to actually learn anything from them in real life. Long story short, the "biome" science system isn't really suited to anything but surface samples My proposal is for each science experiment to be dependant on things like altitude and latitude, as well as biomes. Zones Zones are areas that differentiate where experiments will have new results. Latitude Zones Latitude zones change every 20 degrees of latitude. For example, if you took a temperature reading at 0 degrees (the equator) you would get a different result than if you took one at 20 degrees. Latitude zones affect: Temperature experiments (2Hot Thermometer) Seismic readings (Double-C Seismic Accelerometer) Altitude Zones Altitude zones only apply to atmospheric bodies. A new altitude zone begins every 10 km above sea level while in flight, and every 500 m while landed. Altitude zones affect: Temperature experiments (2Hot Therometer) Seismic readings (Double-C Seismic Accelerometer) Pressure readings (PressMat Barometer) Weather readings (PressMat Barometer) Biomes Biomes are the same, except perhaps a few more could be added. (biomes for large craters on various bodies, islands on Laythe, etc.) Biomes affect: Surface samples (EVA) Core samples (Drill-O-Matic Junior) EVA reports (EVA) Crew reports (Kerbed flights) Solar Zones This is a new Biome-like system that would apply to Kerbol. You would get different Science Reports for doing experiments over Kerbol's Poles, for example, or by flying extremely far from Kerbol. New Experiments Weather readings: Weather readings would be an experiment that you could set a probe core to measure if the probe has a thermometer and a barometer. They work over a period of time, slowly gathering science. After a few days, a science message would pop up with something like "Recorded dust storm on Duna" or "Data acquired from hurricane on Laythe" Magnetometer: The magnetometer would be a new part that would measure the magnetic fields of planets/moons/Kerbol. It would only work in "in space high" or "in space low." Core samples: The Drill-O-Matic Junior could also be used as a sample drill, making surface samples possible for probes. They return 1.5 times the science of an ordinary surface sample. Scanners New scanning/mapping parts that give science based on how much of the surface has been mapped. This is basically just ScanSat. Science Changes -Crew reports and EVA reports would give much less science (How much can you learn by looking out the window?) -Transmitting EVA reports, Crew reports, temperature readings, pressure readings, weather readings, and seismic data would give you 100% of the science, although you get much less science than now (They're just numbers, which can be easily transmitted). -Surface/core samples can be used in the MPL for analysis, and this would take much less time. This gives the same amount of science as recovering the samples. -The MPL can be used for long term study of weather, seismic data, and magnetic fields if the necessary parts are on the ship (Temperature and pressure readings are combined for long-term study). The longer the study, the more science you get, although after 30 days the science increase slows down significantly. -Mystery Goo and the Science Jr. now only give different results if they have a significant temperature and/or pressure difference than previously conducted experiments. (No more biome-grinding) -The Gravioli detector should be replaced with a gravity mapping part that is used long-term on a probe while in orbit to gain science and map the gravitational differences on the surface -Thermometers and barometers are available at the second tech tree node. -Only Surface Samples, Mystery Goo observations, Science Jr. observations and weather readings could be studied in the MPL to avoid science farming and to add realism. What do you think about these changes? Suggestions and feedback welcome! Laythe