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[1.3.0] Kerbalism v1.2.9

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On 6/13/2017 at 1:24 AM, The-Doctor said:

IDEA! Great idea! So like, astronauts can't do EVA during CSME or they die right, but like, that's why we would use robotic arms and stuff. You could add in a patch that enables robotic parts from infernal robotics to do repairs like an engineer, that way, if there is a problem during a CSME, it can be fixed

There is a set of API functions that was added a while back, when a forum user (forgot the name, sorry) was working on adding repair functionality to some kind of robotic arm. I don't know how that ended up. Anyway, I like the idea and maybe I'll add a dedicated module to do unmanned repairs.
 

On 6/14/2017 at 4:03 AM, JadeOfMaar said:

It would be wise of Ninja to adopt CRP's Machinery or SpareParts resources instead of inventing Hardware

My objective is to somewhat reproduce 'on the field hacks' such as dismantling a scrubber from a vessel to install it in another vessel (think Apollo 13), or even doing more crazy stuff in order to survive (think The Martian). I can't allow to produce Hardware in-situ (or use a resource that I don't have total control of, and that may be produced in-situ for what I know), or else this mechanic cease to be a 'last resort' choice for the player.
 

On 6/20/2017 at 2:19 AM, lordcirth said:

Here is the log when switching to the vessel, then to Space Center:

https://gist.github.com/lordcirth/e96184e011e044ea8f35b40293e95a51

I see something called 'DynamicBatteryStorage' in your log. Maybe that's interacting with the background simulation in some weird way.

To clarify, the cost of data transmission is the same for loaded and unloaded vessels.
 

4 hours ago, BlackwingDave said:

Hi, I have just built a base, but if I focus on another ship is running the electricity within a few times and my team is close to death, 
when I then again my base clicks I have electricity again for 100 years. To Kerbalism, I use the way, Interstallar extendend.

Hi. Unfortunately, things that produce electricity in Interstellar (reactors, etc) are not emulated when the vessel has no focus. So when you focus on another ship, your base effectively behave like it had none of the parts from Interstellar. I'm sorry about that.

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@ShotgunNinja wait so hardware won't be something you can make by mining? Well I won't mind it too much if it's like you described. A thing for hardware is, you could make it be that the ship loses structural integrity and life support if you remove structural and/or life support parts to add to others. Well i got no idea how hardware will work, it seems a bit confusing. Hope you go through with the unmanned repair idea, it'd really make it like in real life.

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@The-Doctor Essentially, there are these 'components', that are the things you can install in pods, chemical plants, etcetera. Each one has a 'value' in Hardware units, deduced by mass or specified in the component specs. You can dismantle a 'component' and get half of its value in Hardware units. You then spend this resource to install new components when you are in flight. So, let's make a practical example to explain the meaning of this. Assume something goes wrong with your crewed mission, and you organize a rescue but it takes time. Time that wasn't planned in your mission, and they have not enough Oxygen to last until rescue arrive. You realize that if only you brought a Water Electrolysis unit you could make up some Oxygen, from the remaining Water and the plenty of solar power you got. But hey, you did bring Bob the engineer. Now you can dismantle a few secondary components and use the resulting Hardware to install a Water Electrolysis unit and survive until rescue. Hope that this clarify it a bit.

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Wait wait wait, so if I don't have a water electrolysis unit and I use hardware I can make it? So if I don't have a solar panel and I use hardware I can make one? Sounds like a limited Extraplanetary launch pads tbh if that's what you mean

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@The-Doctor You don't make whole parts. You only make 'components' inside already existing parts that can host components, like the ones you configure in the VAB. So, it is a glorified 'reconfigure while in flight' mechanic.

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@ShotgunNinja Ahhh. You insist on freedom of control over a resource's spec. I get it. It makes total sense with Hardware, and I do like the idea for its basis. Recycle parts, get hardware points, spend them to reconfigure something. Maybe this would work even better with a concept for stem-like "useless at first" parts capable of basically "everything" (so that, say, when tuning the water processor to make an oxygen processor you don't lose the water one completely?) but with the time-wear mechanic, most KISM users should already have an abundance of redundant parts aboard a ship waiting to be re-purposed.

@The-Doctor Not Extraplanetary Launchpads in any way. This is akin to MKS, in which, there already are parts with swappable modules and a cost to the swapping. This is mostly in drills and resource converters.

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Hi gays! Please answer a few questions.

1. If the operation is supported fashion along with USI MKS/OKS? Or Extraplanetary launchpads?

2. is there support for TAC LS? Can I use them together disabling in Kerbalism functions duplicating TAC LS, respectively, to produce food, water, oxygen means TAC LS. I have heard that does not support already Kerbalism joint work with TAC LS

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Welp, I got hit by the good ol' bug of "didn't RTFM". I was wondering where the whole Commnet thing was (haven't played since about 1.0.5...ish?) and all that. Finally discovered it was being overridden by me installing default Kerbalism. Whoops.

 

Discovered this when I put a RA-2 dish on a satellite to give me coverage on the far side of Mun (thinking it would relay) and instead it decides to not.

Edited by Niccolo

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Hello, I may have found a bug, I am pretty sure logs are not necessary as this occurs on every game consistently, The cockpits instead of having a weight of 0.2 tones have a weight of 12 tonnes, is this normal?

EDIT: Forgot to mention, this is with firespitter and SXT pits.

EDIT 2: Switching to default fixed it, but that should be looked at, maybe have the option to have unpressurized  options for all cockpits?

Edited by HorizonFulcrum

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13 hours ago, ShotgunNinja said:

@The-Doctor Essentially, there are these 'components', that are the things you can install in pods, chemical plants, etcetera. Each one has a 'value' in Hardware units, deduced by mass or specified in the component specs. You can dismantle a 'component' and get half of its value in Hardware units. You then spend this resource to install new components when you are in flight. So, let's make a practical example to explain the meaning of this. Assume something goes wrong with your crewed mission, and you organize a rescue but it takes time. Time that wasn't planned in your mission, and they have not enough Oxygen to last until rescue arrive. You realize that if only you brought a Water Electrolysis unit you could make up some Oxygen, from the remaining Water and the plenty of solar power you got. But hey, you did bring Bob the engineer. Now you can dismantle a few secondary components and use the resulting Hardware to install a Water Electrolysis unit and survive until rescue. Hope that this clarify it a bit.

This is probably planned, but nevertheless, I would ask that such a thing would be configurable in the profile file. It is a nice thing to try, but honestly, I don't think this is something I'd want to play with permanently.

Also, while I remember... There was a plan to make "sensor" science take time rather than be instantaneous. Is that still being implemented? If so, would it be possible to configure it so that a certain portion (20% maybe?) of the science is gathered immediately, while the rest takes time to be collected? This would make sounding rockets less useful than orbital ones, but it would still make sense to launch them.

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On 22/06/2017 at 8:28 PM, nickicool said:

Hi gays! Please answer a few questions.

1. If the operation is supported fashion along with USI MKS/OKS? Or Extraplanetary launchpads?

2. is there support for TAC LS? Can I use them together disabling in Kerbalism functions duplicating TAC LS, respectively, to produce food, water, oxygen means TAC LS. I have heard that does not support already Kerbalism joint work with TAC LS

1. I don't know, maybe.

2. I am pretty sure TAC LS is, it should do it automatically (did it for me).

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On 6/22/2017 at 6:28 AM, nickicool said:

Hi gays! Please answer a few questions.

1. If the operation is supported fashion along with USI MKS/OKS? Or Extraplanetary launchpads?

2. is there support for TAC LS? Can I use them together disabling in Kerbalism functions duplicating TAC LS, respectively, to produce food, water, oxygen means TAC LS. I have heard that does not support already Kerbalism joint work with TAC LS

Please do not attempt to use Kerbalism with MKS or with TAC LS. Go ahead and try using Extraplanetary Launchpads.

MKS has functions similar to Kerbalism and requires game featurs which are disabled by Kerbalism. TAC LS may share resources with Kerbalism but the resource definitions and resource consumptions are different between them and that means more trouble. Some players have announced problems between TAC LS and Kerbalism.

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On 22/06/2017 at 8:28 PM, nickicool said:

Hi gays! Please answer a few questions.

1. If the operation is supported fashion along with USI MKS/OKS? Or Extraplanetary launchpads?

2. is there support for TAC LS? Can I use them together disabling in Kerbalism functions duplicating TAC LS, respectively, to produce food, water, oxygen means TAC LS. I have heard that does not support already Kerbalism joint work with TAC LS

 

23 hours ago, JadeOfMaar said:

Please do not attempt to use Kerbalism with MKS or with TAC LS. Go ahead and try using Extraplanetary Launchpads.

MKS has functions similar to Kerbalism and requires game featurs which are disabled by Kerbalism. TAC LS may share resources with Kerbalism but the resource definitions and resource consumptions are different between them and that means more trouble. Some players have announced problems between TAC LS and Kerbalism.

Never mind my post, I used an older version.

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Does anyone know how to disable the resource coherency checking? I am trying to mine water on Duna using an unmanned lander, and the drill doesn't work when the vessel is unloaded. When the vessel is loaded and I try to do high speed warp I get the warning about EC acting incoherently (because I'm using a nuclear reactor I'm guessing), and it won't let me warp faster than 1000x. No Kerbals' lives are at risk here so I would like to disable it and let it do it's incoherent thing.

I see in the changelog for 1.2.7 that it is possible to disable this checking, but I didn't see the option in the Settings file. Did I just miss it, or is there some other way it has to be done?

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Kerbalism appears to 'not play well' with @Angel-125's Wild Blue Industries mods. It's overriding a lot of lab functions. Is anyone working on a patch to co-ordinate with WBI?

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