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KSP Caveman Challenge 1.2

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5 hours ago, Anuter said:

Here is my submission in hard mode, without any experiment from Kerbin's land, water or athmosphere to make it a bit harder.

Great first entry - really like all the detail in your album.

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To make things worse, the next Mun encounter kicked Jeb out of Kerbin SOI.

...And here goes Valentina!

Please tell me you're going to rescue poor Jeb and Valentina! :)

 

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I don't think I'm good enough to bring them back with a pusher tug without patch conics.

In the other hand, I like doing this low-tech challenge, so I want to continue this save game: only upgrading the R&D to see how far it's possible to go with the other Caveman restrictions.

After more experience and enventually unlocking the Klaw (it's just one node away), this should be doable!

 

Edit: I just realised that the ion engine is not so far above in the tech tree: since it is easy to launch 2t in low kerbin orbit, even unlocking the whole tree is not that challenging once you arrived at this point.

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Well, I have nothing to do now between designing apollo mission rocket so I decided to take up on this challenge.
So far I only have 2 vehicles so not much but I like them.

Also I have question about funds, can I cheat them or do I have to complete contracts inbetween? and what about KER?
 

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Even in hard mode, money doesn't seem to be an issue: for every world first milestone, you get enough money for a few missions, and there are often contracts compatible with your current mission profile (science from there, satellite here, etc...).

 

Regarding KER, I don't think it's allowed: it isn't specifically banned in the rules for this reboot of the challenge, but it is in the original challenge thread.

 

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 @Numerlor KER is definitely NOT allowed for any purpose in any way, shape, or form. So is any other mod that provides information, or additional parts.

And no, you can't cheat in funds. Although, honestly, you shouldn't need to.

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3 hours ago, Numerlor said:

So far I only have 2 vehicles so not much but I like them.

That's a cute rover.. I like it. I'm guessing it's just for science harvesting around KSP? Because at 2 tonnes mass, it'll be a real PITA to set down on Mun or Minmus.. And as for getting the Kerbal home again.. I think you could forget about that.

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Well, I forgot that you get money from milestones because of 3 month sandbox and where could I park my rover to get science from astronaut complex? I managed to do it near flag pole but no success there

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17 minutes ago, Numerlor said:

Well, I forgot that you get money from milestones because of 3 month sandbox and where could I park my rover to get science from astronaut complex? I managed to do it near flag pole but no success there

As far as I know, you can't get science from the Astronaut Complex without upgrading it... which, of course, would be against the rules. Let's see... you can get science from the launchpad, crawlerway, VAB, SPH, KSC, mission control, administration, tracking station, R&D, and the runway without upgrading anything.

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1 minute ago, IncongruousGoat said:

As far as I know, you can't get science from the Astronaut Complex without upgrading it... which, of course, would be against the rules. Let's see... you can get science from the launchpad, crawlerway, VAB, SPH, KSC, mission control, administration, tracking station, R&D, and the runway without upgrading anything.

and flagpole if you drive on it with all science equipment but I saw some threads about first astronaut complex science but only in tiny spots

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Posted (edited)

There are a bit more science spots (from a previous caveman attempt):

 

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1 hour ago, Anuter said:

There are a bit more science spots (from a previous caveman attempt):

Crawlerway is that rail thingy between VAB and Launchpad?

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Yes: the biome doesn't start immediately after the launchpad though, you have to move a few dozen meters toward the VAB to reach it.

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Well, finally did it. Last 80 science was killing me for almost 2 days :D and before you jump into me cheating because of eva report from orbit and upper atmosphere check my abomination in images below

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Plane used for exploration of Kerbin

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Rover used for exploration of KSC

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Base stage of orbiter

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Probe landed on Mün

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First design EVA abomination (Only used for upper atmosphere science later replaced with more "aerodynamic" design)

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Plane Rover Rocket

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Is this challenge to be done in Career Mode, or Science! Mode?   If done in Career, then contract Science! points count, correct?

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8 minutes ago, llanthas said:

Is this challenge to be done in Career Mode, or Science! Mode?   If done in Career, then contract Science! points count, correct?

The challenge is done in Career mode, since facility upgrades aren't a mechanic in Science mode. And, yes, science points from contracts count, although grinding contracts for the science required sounds incredibly tedious.

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Having started one of these, how kosher is sending a kerbal up in what's essentially a shark cage? And assembling craft on the launch pad using Jr docking ports to get around the mass limit? I've seen both of these here.

I only managed to get to orbit caveman-style last night and I miss EVA functionality already. The command seat is also out of reach, so no cheaty 5 tonne rockets with Valentina perched on top, or stuffing kerbals in service bays. Grateful for the science container to avoid collecting data by EVA.

On ‎3‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 0:09 PM, Numerlor said:

but I saw some threads about first astronaut complex science but only in tiny spots

It's possible with the Tier 1 Astronaut Complex:

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Managed to push a 'rover' made of two command pods and service bay against a wall of the Tier 1 Complex, collected data from there, then backed off. Same thing with flag pole.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Gordon Fecyk said:

Having started one of these, how kosher is sending a kerbal up in what's essentially a shark cage? And assembling craft on the launch pad using Jr docking ports to get around the mass limit? I've seen both of these here.

Creatively circumventing the rules is allowed and, in fact, recommended. Both pad assembly and Kerbal cages are 100% legitimate Caveman techniques, although neither is strictly necessary to complete the challenge.

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