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Doing It Constellation Style

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The Constellation program was a proposed mission architecture designed by NASA with the goal of returning to the Moon and eventually sending humans to Mars. This is a large-scale challenge dedicated to recreating the ideas proposed for the Constellation program, and then extending it for other purposes.

This challenge is somewhat inspired by @Xeldrak's Doing It Apollo Style, and @Death Engineering's Doing It Gemini Style challenges.

Thanks to @Martian Emigrant for making the mission patches.

 

 

The Constellation Mission Packs Discussion Thread has some good resources that can be incredibly useful references for Constellation-style vehicles. There are a number of links in the first post of that thread, and the vehicles people have designed for it are likely to be helpful for providing ideas as well. Also, this video is helpful for gaining some insight into the Constellation Mars mission profile, as is this, more "kerbal" video (I very much recommend watching both of these videos if you have the time, they're an excellent source of inspiration).

 

This delta-v map may be helpful to people. I will provide approximate values for Mios and Richell in this thread once I have figured them out.

 

You will be scored based on how you replicate the original Constellation spacecraft as well as how you execute the missions. You should do all of the first three challenges in order before moving on to the others (of which you can choose which ones to attempt and do them in any order).

You must provide screenshots or a video as evidence of your entry.

Stock and modded entries will be considered on separate leaderboards. Regarding modded entries, most mods are allowed so long as they're reasonably balanced and are not cheaty. Entries with entirely stock parts are considered "stock" even if you are using visual mods, information mods, utilities like Stage Recovery, and/or planet mods.

 

Optional challenges 6, 8, and 9 involve celestial bodies added by @Xenonclave's Xen's Planet Collection mod. The thread for it can be found here.

Challenge 10 requires the Kerbal Komets mod by @Angel-125, the thread for which can be found here.

 

The score system works like this: you have a general score and a mission-specific score. For each individual mission, your total score is the general score plus the mission score.

General Score

  • Launch Vehicles: Only use replicas of the Constellation-specific launch vehicles (Ares I, Ares IV, and Ares V) for all launches from Kerbin (not including satellite launches). (+10)
  • Ares I: Your Ares I analogue has one solid rocket motor on the first stage* and one liquid rocket engine on the second stage. *For stock entries you are allowed to use multiple first-stage solid rocket motors, so long as they all ignite at the same time and have the same burn time. (+5)
  • Ares V: Your Ares V analogue has 5 liquid rocket engines and two solid rocket boosters on the first stage, and one liquid rocket engine on the second stage. (+5)
  • Stage Recovery 1: The solid first stage of the Ares I can land safely in the ocean with parachutes. (+3)
  • Stage Recovery 2: The SRBs on the Ares IV and V can land safely in the ocean with parachutes. (+4)
  • Asparagus Staging: Use asparagus staging on any vehicle. (-50)
  • Orion: Orion is launched on the Ares I rocket and has space for at least three kerbals for stock entries, or four kerbals for modded entries. (+6)
  • Crew Safety: Orion includes a solid-fueled launch escape tower. (+4)
  • Crew Mobility: All surface modules have functional ladders. (+1)
  • Crew Survivability: Any kerbal dies (or runs out of life support supplies if you're using a life support mod). (-50 per kerbal)
  • Life Support: Use a life support mod (+25)
  • Larger Than Life: Use a scaled-up version of the Kerbol system with a scale factor of at least 2. (+(5+scale factor))
  • Commnet: Do everything with commnet enabled at the default (normal mode) settings or more difficult. (+10)
  • Surface Science Bonus: If you're in career or science mode, gather as many science points as you can with only one landing. This is a separate score - not related to the main points system - for each celestial body that you visit, and it only includes stock science experiments (non-stock parts which do stock experiments are okay to use). You may not use a science lab to increase science yield. In order to do the challenge in career mode, you may use save file editing to provide yourself with funds and science points. For missions involving landings on multiple celestial bodies, your score will be split by each celestial body landed on (you must keep track of which science is from where).

 

 

Challenge 1: Munar Sortie

A large part of the purpose of the Constellation program was to return to the Moon. In KSP this equates to a Mun mission.

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  • Objective: Using the Orion spacecraft and the Altair lander, send four kerbals (three for stock entries) to the surface of the Mun and return them safely to Kerbin. (+20)
  • Kerbin Orbit Rendezvous: The Orion spacecraft and the Altair lander are launched separately and dock in Kerbin orbit before transferring to the Mun. (+8)
  • Accurate Altair: The Altair Munar Lander includes a descent module and an ascent module, and has space for all four kerbals (three for stock entries). (+7)
  • Fuel Cells: The Altair lander is powered by a fuel cell. (+2)
  • Descent Module: The Altair descent module is left on the surface of the Mun, and includes: airlock, fuel and engines for landing, landing legs, power storage (at least 1000 electric charge). (+4)
  • Kerbin Departure Stage: The Mun transfer burn is done using the upper stage of the rocket that launched the Altair lander. (+3)
  • Altair Orbital Insertion: The orbital insertion burn at the Mun is done using the engines and fuel system of the Altair lander. You should design the lander to include enough additional fuel in the descent module to accomplish this task. (+3)
  • Mun Rover: Bring along a rover with seats for at least half the crew. (+3)

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 2: Asteroid Rendezvous

"The public wants us to have mastered the problem of dealing with asteroids. So being able to have astronauts go out there and sort of poke one with a stick would be scientifically valuable as well as demonstrate human capabilities." - Chris McKay, Constellation deputy scientist, on the potential value of using the Constellation infrastructure for an asteroid rendezvous mission

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  • Objective: Send a fully crewed Orion spacecraft and an Asteroid Research Module to rendezvous with a Near Kerbin Asteroid (NKA) - this is defined as any asteroid which passes through Kerbin's SOI - and then return the crew safely to Kerbin. (+20)
  • Kerbin Orbit Rendezvous: The Orion spacecraft and the ARM are launched separately and dock in Kerbin orbit before transferring to the asteroid. (+5)
  • Asteroid Research Module: The ARM is derived in some way from the Altair lander (it should be visually similar), and includes a grabbing unit to attach to the asteroid. It should be able to undock from the Orion spacecraft when near the asteroid, and land on the asteroid using its own propulsion systems. (+8)
  • Asteroid Science: The ARM includes a functional drill, ore tanks, and some sort of science equipment for surveying the asteroid. (+5)
  • Crew Comfort: The ARM includes habitation space for all of the kerbals on the mission. (+5)
  • Moderate Duration: The total time the crew spend in space is less than 20 Kerbin days. (+6)
  • Taking Things Literally: As per the quote used to introduce this challenge, poke the asteroid with a stick. (+2)

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 3: Crewed Duna Mission

The ultimate goal of the Constellation program was to send a crewed mission to Mars. The KSP equivalent, of course, is Duna. This will be a much larger mission than the previous two challenges, requiring more launches, more planning, more kerbals,  and more time.

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  • Objective: Land 6 kerbals (5 for stock entries) on Duna and return them safely to Kerbin. (+30)
  • Extended Orion: Use an upgraded version of your Orion spacecraft that contains two extra kerbals. (+8)
  • Scheduled Transfers: Launch the uncrewed payloads to Duna in the first transfer window, and send the crew to Duna in the second transfer window. (+6)
  • Careful Planning: Send a satellite to orbit Duna and choose a landing location with a high ore concentration. (+5)
  • Constellation Constellation: Send at least three relay satellites to orbit Duna, and one to orbit the Sun, to ensure that the crew have a connection to Kerbin at all times. (+4)
  • Cargo Lander: Use a standardized lander for both the Duna habitat and the Duna ascent vehicle. The lander should be able to make a parachute-assisted propulsive landing on Duna. (+8)
  • Transfer Stages: Use separately-launched chemical or nuclear transfer stages for the uncrewed payloads (habitat and ascent vehicle) (does not include support satellites). (+5)
  • Heat Shielding: Cargoes landed on Duna are protected by a fairing during re-entry. (+3)
  • Surface Habitat: Send a habitation module to Duna which has space for all of the crew and an airlock (airlock does not count as part of living space). The habitation module should await the crew in Duna orbit and be used to land them on the surface. (+10)
  • Hab Lab: Habitation module includes a science lab (lab space does not count as part of living space). (+4)
  • Duna Ascent Vehicle: A single DAV is used with space for all of the crew. It must have sufficient power systems and must be able to rendezvous and dock with the Duna Transfer Vehicle. (+9)
  • ISRU: The fuel tanks for the DAV are filled using ore mined and refined on Duna. (+7)
  • Surface Mobility: Include a rover with space for at least three kerbals. (+3)
  • Surface Mobility 2: The rover fulfills the previous requirement and is pressurized. (+2)
  • Duna Transfer Vehicle: Your crewed DTV is solar powered and has sufficient habitation space (at least 2 seats per kerbal). (+5)
  • Nuclear DTV: Your DTV is propelled by 3 nuclear thermal rockets, and includes one drop tank that is jettisoned after the trans-Duna injection burn. (+5; does not stack with Chemical DTV or Ion DTV)
  • Chemical DTV: Your DTV is propelled by several (3 to 5 ideally) chemical rocket stages that are jettisoned when out of fuel. (+5; does not stack with Nuclear DTV or Ion DTV)
  • Ion DTV: Your DTV is propelled by an ion drive which does not jettison fuel tanks or engines. (+5; does not stack with Nuclear DTV or Chemical DTV)
  • Spacecraft Shipment: Your Orion spacecraft is transported to Duna and back whilst docked to the DTV, and is used to re-enter and land back at Kerbin. (+2)
  • Mission Time: Your crew spend at least 1 Kerbin year on the surface of Duna, and are back on Kerbin in no more than 5 Kerbin years since they were launched. (+6)

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 4: Mun Base

To extend operations on the surface of the Mun, you have to assemble a Mun base.

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  • Objective: Land modules of a Mun base on the Mun using Altair descent stages, and then send 4 kerbals to the base for an extended duration mission. (+30)
  • Base Size: Score for the number of modules you add to the base. (+5 for each module, capped at +15)
  • Crew Quarters: Include plenty of habitation space (at least 2 seats per kerbal, not counting labs or airlocks). (+8)
  • Science Module: Include a science lab and science equipment. (+8)
  • Total Mobility: Include a pressurized rover with space for all four kerbals. The lander used for the rover may count as a base module. (+8)
  • Pressure Preservation: All modules containing kerbals (except the rover) have a dedicated airlock. (+3)
  • Careful Planning: Send a scanning satellite to orbit the Mun ahead of time, and choose a landing site with high ore concentration. (+4)
  • Phone Home: Make sure your Mun base has a constant commnet connection to Kerbin (either by being on the Kerbin-facing side of the Mun or by launching relay satellites). (+3)
  • Power Systems: Mun base modules are powered by solar panels and have enough power storage to maintain functionality when the base is in darkness. (+9)
  • Anomaly Survey: Choose a base location within visual range of any Munar anomaly, and plant a flag near it. (+3)
  • Long-term Stay: The crew stay at the Mun base for at least two Munar orbits. (+4)
  • Crewed Mission: When sending crew to your Mun base, add all relevant points from the Munar Sortie challenge (points which apply for this mission, not your previous Munar Sortie attempts).

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 5: Crewed Dres Mission

Following previous asteroid rendezvous missions, you must send a crewed mission to the largest object in Kerbol's main asteroid belt: Dres.

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  • Objective: Land 6 kerbals on Dres and return them safely to Kerbin. (+30)
  • Extended Orion: Use an upgraded version of your Orion spacecraft that contains two extra kerbals. (+8)
  • Scheduled Transfers: Launch the uncrewed payloads (satellites and landing vehicles) to Dres in the first transfer window, and send the crew to Dres in the second transfer window. (+6)
  • Careful Planning: Send a satellite to orbit Dres and choose a landing location with a high ore concentration. (+5)
  • Constellation Constellation: Send at least three relay satellites to orbit Dres to ensure that the crew have a connection to Kerbin at all times. (+4)
  • Lander Coherence: Use Altair-based landing vehicles. Dres is similar to the Mun in terms of delta-v requirements, so you should require few modifications from the original Altair design. (+8)
  • Transfer Stages: Use separately-launched chemical transfer stages for the uncrewed payloads (not including satellites). (+5)
  • Surface Operations: Include two uncrewed cargo landers for surface modules. (+5)
  • Surface Habitation: Include plenty of habitation space (at least 2 seats per kerbal, not counting labs or airlocks). (+8)
  • Science Module: Include a science lab and science equipment. (+8)
  • Surface Mobility: Include a rover with space for at least three kerbals. (+3)
  • Surface Mobility 2: The rover fulfills the previous requirement and is pressurized. (+2)
  • Pressure Preservation: All modules containing kerbals (except the rover) have a dedicated airlock. (+3)
  • Power Systems: Surface modules are powered by solar panels and have enough power storage to maintain functionality when the base is in darkness. (+9)
  • Interplanetary Coherence: Use an interplanetary spacecraft based on the same design as the one used for the Duna mission (either identical in design or modified for the higher delta-v requirement). (+10)
  • Spacecraft Shipment: Your Orion spacecraft is transported to Dres and back whilst docked to the interplanetary transport, and is used to re-enter and land back at Kerbin. (+2)
  • Mission Time: Your crew spend at least 1 Kerbin year on the surface of Dres, and are back on Kerbin in no more than 8 Kerbin years since they were launched. (+6) This rule is subject to change

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 6: Extended Duna Mission

After the success of the first crewed Duna mission, there is now additional funding to expand upon the Duna exploration infrastructure in the next mission to the red planet. You are tasked with sending two more cargo payloads to Duna, and have several additional objectives on top of the previous mission parameters.

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  • Objective: Conduct a second mission to Duna involving two more cargo payloads. (+30)
  • Basic Requirements: Add all points from the original Duna mission section that apply to this second mission (points are judged by this mission, not previous Duna mission attempts).
  • Change of Scenery: Land in a different biome than the previous mission. (+4)
  • Mobile Base: Send a large crew rover to the surface of Duna. It must be solar powered, have sufficient habitation space for all crew members, and have an airlock. It is not a replacement for the original habitation module, but should be equipped for long-duration surface excursions. (+10)
  • Landing Systems: Land the large rover in the same way as the other payloads to Duna's surface. You should use a similar cargo lander, but may make modifications if necessary. (+6)
  • Anomaly Survey: Send your crew to any Duna anomaly in the large rover and plant a flag near it. (+3)
  • Moons of Duna: Using a modified Altair lander, land four kerbals on the surface of Ike either before or after the Duna surface excursion (if you have XPC installed you have to land them on Nyke as well with the same vehicle). (+10)
  • Moon Lander: Your Ike lander is derived from the original Altair design, but is solar powered. The two-stage design is recommended but not required, as Ike requires only about 2/3 the delta-v of the Mun. (+7)
  • Moon Mobility: Bring a rover to Ike with seats for at least 2 kerbals (you don't need one for Nyke if you have XPC installed). (+4)

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 7: Joolian Moons

The Jool system is going to be a challenge to explore. All 5 of the gas planet's moons need to be landed on. There are goals for each moon, plus for exploring the Jool system as a whole. This is by far the largest part of the overall Constellation-style challenge. It will require numerous spacecraft to be designed, and has a large amount of requirements if you want to get all of the points. Work In Progress

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General Goals

  • Objective: Send six kerbals to the Jool system (five for stock entries), achieve crewed landings on every moon, and return your crew safely to Kerbin. (+40)
  • Gravity Captures: All spacecraft entering the Jool system capture in Joolian orbit using at least one gravity assist from a Joolian moon. (+10)
  • Spacecraft Fleet: All uncrewed payloads (landing vehicles, habitats, etc) are sent to the Jool system in the first transfer window to await the crew in orbit of the relevant moons. (+16)
  • Crew Transfer: The crew are sent to the Jool system in the second transfer window.
  • Transfer Stages: Use separately-launched chemical or nuclear transfer stages for the uncrewed payloads (does not include support satellites). (+5)
  • Interplanetary Transport: The interplanetary crew transport uses a similar design to previously-used interplanetary transports (upgraded if necessary) and has sufficient habitation space (at least 2 seats per kerbal). (+12)
  • Artificial Gravity: Your interplanetary transport includes some sort of centrifuge (it does not need to actually function as one, but it has to resemble a centrifuge). (+4)
  • Extended Orion: Use an upgraded version of your Orion spacecraft that contains two extra kerbals. (+8)
  • Spacecraft Shipment: Your Orion spacecraft is transported to the Jool system and back whilst docked to the interplanetary transport, and is used to re-enter and land back at Kerbin. (+2)
  • Kraken Lair: Find the space kraken. (+3)

 

Laythe

  • Objective: Land six kerbals on Laythe (five for stock entries) and return them safely to the crew transport. (+12)
  • Piloting Precision: Land on an island. (+8)
  • No Spaceplane: Use a spaceplane to transport the crew to Laythe orbit. (-10)
  • Laythe Lander: Use a single Laythe lander that is similar in design to the standardized cargo lander used in the Duna missions. (+8)
  • Multi-Purpose Vehicle: Your Laythe lander includes a habitat with space for all the kerbals, a lab, an airlock, and the Laythe ascent vehicle. (+12)
  • Laythe Surface Mobility: Include an amphibious pressurized rover with space for at least two kerbals. (+8)

 

Vall

  • Objective: Land four kerbals on Vall and return them safely to the crew transport. (+8)
  • Vall Lander: Use a lander based on the Altair design (upgraded if necessary). (+10)
  • Vall Surface Mobility: Include a rover with space for at least 2 kerbals.

 

Tylo

  • Objective: Land six kerbals on Tylo (five for stock entries) and return them safely to the crew transport. Use two separate landing vehicles but land them all in the same location. (+20)
  • Tylo Landers: Use landing vehicles derived in some way from the Altair lander. They should have separate ascent and descent stages, but may also include drop tanks if needed. (+8)
  • Tylo Habitat: Using a descent-stage-only lander, land a surface habitation module with space for all the crew as well as a dedicated airlock.
  • Tylo Surface Mobility: Include a pressurized rover with space for at least two kerbals (rover can be landed independently of the crew vehicles). (+8)

 

Bop

  • Objective: Land two kerbals on Bop and return them safely to the crew transport. (+4)
  • Bop Lander: Use a lander that is at least loosely based on the Altair lander. Bop has very low delta-v requirements so your design doesn't have to be identical. It should be the same design as your Pol lander (you can use the exact same vehicle for both moons, or you can use separate ones). (+5)
  • Low-Altitude Flyer: Bring along a monopropellant-based flyer. It should seat a single kerbal in an external command seat, and be able to fly at least part way across the moon. (+3)

 

Pol

  • Objective: Land two kerbals on Pol and return them safely to the crew transport. (+4)
  • Pol Lander: Use a lander that is at least loosely based on the Altair lander. Pol has very low delta-v requirements so your design doesn't have to be identical. It should be the same design as your Bop lander (you can use the exact same vehicle for both moons, or you can use separate ones). (+5)
  • Low-Altitude Flyer: Bring along a monopropellant-based flyer. It should seat a single kerbal in an external command seat, and be able to fly at least part way across the moon. (+3)

 

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 8: Crewed Mios Mission

Mios is a planet from Xen's Planet Collection. It lies between the orbits of Duna and Dres. You should explore it using modified Duna mission infrastructure.

Planet details:

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Mios is somewhat similar to Duna, but is also different in many ways. Its most unique feature is its equatorial ocean, which covers several degrees of latitude (I think about 20°) to both the north and south of the equator. It also has a thicker atmosphere than Duna, but it's not as dense as the atmosphere of Kerbin.

Mios has two moons: Glac and Serc. They are both quite small (even by KSP's standards) but are worth visiting.

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Mission goals:

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  • Objective: Land 6 kerbals (5 for stock entries) on Mios and return them safely to Kerbin. (+30)
  • Extended Orion: Use an upgraded version of your Orion spacecraft that contains two extra kerbals. (+8)
  • Scheduled Transfers: Launch the uncrewed payloads to Mios in the first transfer window, and send the crew to Duna in the second transfer window. (+6)
  • Careful Planning: Send a satellite to orbit Mios and choose a landing location with a high ore concentration. (+5)
  • Constellation Constellation: Send at least three relay satellites to orbit Mios to ensure that the crew have a connection to Kerbin at all times. (+4)
  • Cargo Lander: Use a standardized lander for both the Mios habitat and the Mios ascent vehicle. The lander should be able to make a parachute-assisted propulsive landing on Mios. (+8)
  • Transfer Stages: Use separately-launched chemical or nuclear transfer stages for the uncrewed payloads (does not include support satellites). (+5)
  • Heat Shielding: Cargoes landed on Mios are protected by a fairing during re-entry. (+3)
  • Landing Precision: Land on the surface of Mios within reasonable driving distance of the ocean. (+3)
  • Landing Prestige: Land on an island in the ocean of Mios. (+10; does not stack with Landing Precision)
  • Surface Habitat: Send a habitation module to Mios which has space for all of the crew and an airlock (airlock does not count as part of living space). The habitation module should await the crew in Mios orbit and be used to land them on the surface. (+10)
  • Hab Lab: Habitation module includes a science lab (lab space does not count as part of living space). (+4)
  • Mios Ascent Vehicle: A single MAV is used with space for all of the crew. It must have sufficient power systems and must be able to rendezvous and dock with the Mios Transfer Vehicle. (+9)
  • ISRU: The fuel tanks for the MAV are filled using ore mined and refined on Duna. (+7)
  • Mios Surface Mobility: Include a rover with space for at least three kerbals. (+3)
  • Mios Surface Mobility 2: The rover fulfills the previous requirement and is pressurized. (+2)
  • Snowball: Land four kerbals on Glac using a lander derived in some way from the Altair design. (+7)
  • Captured Space Potato: Land four kerbals on Serc using the same lander that was used for Glac (+7; requires Snowball)
  • Mios Transfer Vehicle: Your crewed MTV is derived from the same interplanetary transport design used in previous missions (upgraded if necessary) and has sufficient habitation space (at least 2 seats per kerbal). (+5)
  • Spacecraft Shipment: Your Orion spacecraft is transported to Mios and back whilst docked to the MTV, and is used to re-enter and land back at Kerbin. (+2)
  • Mission Time: Your crew spend at least 1 Kerbin year on the surface of Mios, and are back on Kerbin in no more than 5 Kerbin years since they were launched. (+6) This Rule Is Subject To Change

Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 9: Crewed Richell Mission

Richell is a planet added by Xen's Planet Collection. It has retrograde rotation and orbits Kerbol between Dres and Jool. Work In Progress

Planet details:

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Richell is quite an interesting planet. It has a strip of rough land around the equator with oceans at both poles. Its biggest challenge is its exceptionally-tall atmosphere, which makes ascending from the planet's surface quite difficult even though atmospheric pressure is relatively low.

Richell has one moon: Iber. Though the planet rotates in a retrograde direction, Iber has a prograde orbit above the rings. If you choose to visit Iber you will have to make your Richell ascent vehicle even more powerful, as it will have to go against the planet's rotation.

Delta-v info: WIP

Mission goals:

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Completing this challenge will earn you this mission patch:

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Challenge 10: Komet Rendezvous Mission

Building on the previous asteroid rendezvous missions, you now have to send four kerbals to study a komet in solar orbit. Work In Progress

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Stock

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Challenge 1: Munar Sortie

 

Challenge 2: Asteroid Rendezvous

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Challenge 3: Crewed Duna Mission

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Modded

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Challenge 1: Munar Sortie

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Challenge 2: Asteroid Rendezvous

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Challenge 3: Crewed Duna Mission

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  1. eloquentJane: 170
  2. foobar: 154

 

Challenge 4: Mun Base

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  1. eloquentJane: 190
  2. foobar: 182

 

Challenge 5: Crewed Dres Mission

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Challenge 6: Extended Duna Mission

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  1. foobar: 228

 

 

Surface Science Bonus

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Mun

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Duna

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  1. eloquentJane: 1580

 

 

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it would be helpful to make the mission parameters clear for those people who dont know how constellation works.

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59 minutes ago, TheGuyNamedAlan said:

it would be helpful to make the mission parameters clear for those people who dont know how constellation works.

It's a work in progress, as indicated by the big red "Work In Progress" sign at the bottom of the post. I haven't finished writing up the parameters yet.

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The first challenge is ready for completion. It's possible I might make a few tweaks to the scoring, but for the most part it should be good to go.

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I've changed the requirement from four kerbals to three for the Orion capsule, on account of stock having few suitable four-kerbal parts. This decision moves a bit away from realism but is designed to allow better balancing for stock players.

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The correct way to replicate the Constellation spacecraft:

* Draw up elaborate plans for a spacecraft.

* Modify, re-modify, and re-re-modify your plans

* Now spend 17.3 earthly Fortunes on the projects

* Launch one token simulator of the least of your designs, then call it quits.

* 10 years later, rename your system SLS, and get ready to spend another double-handful of Fortunes on it.

* Tell everyone it will be ready in '16. erm, '17. make that '19. maybe '21

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2 hours ago, eloquentJane said:

I've changed the requirement from four kerbals to three for the Orion capsule, on account of stock having few suitable four-kerbal parts. This decision moves a bit away from realism but is designed to allow better balancing for stock players.

Hello EJ.

 

I will be doing this soon. Must take the shuttle one a bit further first.

I had accepted the four Kerbal part of the challenge.

Right now you have it has 3 Kerbals = 20 points. Could you had another bonus for doing it with 4?

 

Thanks,

 

ME

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48 minutes ago, Martian Emigrant said:

Right now you have it has 3 Kerbals = 20 points. Could you had another bonus for doing it with 4?

I changed the requirement to allow three to balance it against stock. I may actually make it so that stock players require three whilst modded players require four (due to the wider range of suitable parts). Does that sound like a good idea?

Good luck with your attempt, in any case. There are also going to be an asteroid rendezvous challenge and a Duna challenge coming soon (those are the "first three challenges" that the introduction alludes to), with some extra things later. It'll probably end up being something like the Shuttle Challenge in that there will be several sub-challenges to complete.

Also, I need to modify the score system somewhat. There will be the same points categories as there currently are, but keep in mind that it'll have some changes soon.

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Ah, I might give it a try. The three kerbal for stock, four for modded sounds nice to me. While you can botch together a four kerbal command module, it allways looks a little absurd.....

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35 minutes ago, Xeldrak said:

While you can botch together a four kerbal command module, it allways looks a little absurd.....

Thats why I changed it in the first place. I like things to look nice, and unfortunately stock KSP is already extremely limited in that regard. Requiring a 4-kerbal command pod from stock players would just lead to unpleasant aesthetics.

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I'm going to get things started here with my entry for the Munar Sortie challenge. This is done as a test of the technology rather than as an attempt to gain points; having done it, I know what I need to do to improve my entry in future.

Mission designation: MSM1 (Munar Sortie Mission 1).

The Altair lander is launched first, on the Ares V rocket.

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Ignition.

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Liftoff of MSM1-Altair.

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Commencing gravity turn.

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Breaking sound barrier.

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Approaching booster cutoff.

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Booster cutoff and separation.

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Reaching maximum dynamic pressure.

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At this point in flight the main engines are throttled back to reduce time to apoapsis and ensure that first stage cutoff occurs before the intended 120km apoapsis is reached.

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Fairing separation.

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Here you can see some of the details of the Altair lander. I'm very pleased with how the design turned out.

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First stage cutoff and separation.

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KDSE (Kerbin Departure Stage Engine) ignition.

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Confirmation from Stage Recovery that the SRBs landed successfully.

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KDSE cutoff as 120km apoapsis is reached.

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Circularizing.

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Circularization complete.

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The Altair lander and Kerbin Departure Stage now await the crew in Kerbin orbit.

 

Back at the KSC, the crew prepare for launch on an Ares I rocket. The crew of this mission are Valentina Kerman (Orion Pilot), Wenliana Kerman (Scientist), Phoanne Kerman (Engineer), and Berella Kerman (Lander Pilot).

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Ignition. The engine plume is off-center due to a visual bug; it is not a problem with the launch vehicle.

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Liftoff of MSM1-Orion.

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Commencing gravity turn.

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Breaking sound barrier.

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First stage cutoff.

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First stage separation. The first stage was destroyed for some reason; it is suspected that the failure has to do with the separation motors on the first stage. The second stage does not appear to have sustained any damage.

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Second stage ignition.

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Reaching maximum dynamic pressure.

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First stage cutoff as 80km apoapsis is reached.

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LES jettison.

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Circularizing.

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Circularization complete.

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Second stage separation. The separation motors de-orbit the stage to avoid leaving debris in Kerbin orbit.

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The Orion spacecraft in orbit of Kerbin.

Several maneuvers are executed to rendezvous with MSM1-Altair.

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Approaching Altair.

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Zeroing relative velocity.

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Approaching the lander to dock.

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Docking successful.

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The only accurate delta-v information here is Stage 4, which is the KDSE.

 

Now that the spacecraft are assembled in Kerbin orbit, it is time to transfer to the Mun.

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The Mun transfer burn is plotted.

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Executing Mun transfer burn.

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Maneuver complete.

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A mid-course correction is required to ensure that the spacecraft can reach a polar orbit of the Mun.

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After the mid-course correction, the Kerbin Departure Stage is jettisoned.

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Using its own built-in control systems, it places itself on a collision course with the Mun.

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The only accurate delta-v information here is Stage 2. That is the Altair descent engines, which will be used to circularize in Munar orbit.

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Approaching the Mun.

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The circularization maneuver is plotted and executed.

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The crew transfer to the Altair lander, and then undock to prepare for landing.

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They will be landing in the Mun's polar crater, as it is theorized that there may be water and other useful materials there. The scientific data collected on this mission will help to find a good location for a surface base.

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De-orbiting.

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Final approach to land.

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Landing successful. MSM1-Altair has touched down on the Mun.

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Valentina exits the lander through the airlock.

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...and is soon joined by the rest of the crew.

The crew remain on the Munar surface for the entire duration of the Mun's orbit before preparing to return to Kerbin.

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AME ignition, and liftoff from the Munar surface.

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It may appear as though the ascent module doesn't have enough delta-v for circularization, but this is not the case. [I don't know what happened to commnet, I just noticed as I'm uploading this that it appears to have vanished, although I didn't turn it off].

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The engine also has a monopropellant mode, and can use the RCS fuel to complete the circularization maneuver. It does not have the required fuel to dock, however, so the Orion spacecraft will have to do that.

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The Orion spacecraft approaches the Altair lander after several maneuvers to rendezvous.

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Docking successful. The crew transfer to the Orion spacecraft.

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Undocking from the ascent module.

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The Altair ascent module de-orbits itself autonomously.

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Planning the return maneuver. it's not the most efficient maneuver, but Orion has enough fuel to accomplish it.

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Leaving the Mun.

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Service module jettison.

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Re-entry successful. Drogue chute deployment.

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Main chute deployment.

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Landing successful.

 

Mission outcome: success.

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General Score

  • Launch Vehicles: Only use replicas of the Constellation-specific launch vehicles (Ares I, Ares IV, and Ares V) for all launches from Kerbin. (+10)
  • Ares I: Your Ares I analogue has one solid rocket motor on the first stage and one liquid rocket engine on the second stage. (+5)
  • Ares V: Your Ares V analogue has 5 liquid rocket engines and two solid rocket boosters on the first stage, and one liquid rocket engine on the second stage. (+5)
  • Stage Recovery 2: The SRBs on the Ares IV and V can land safely in the ocean with parachutes. (+4)
  • Orion: Orion is launched on the Ares I rocket and has space for at least four kerbals. (+6)
  • Crew Safety: Orion includes a solid-fueled launch escape tower. (+4)
  • Crew Mobility: All surface modules have functional ladders. (+1)

Mission Score

  • Objective: Using the Orion spacecraft and the Altair lander, send four kerbals to the surface of the Mun and return them safely to Kerbin. (+20)
  • Kerbin Orbit Rendezvous: The Orion spacecraft and the Altair lander are launched separately and dock in Kerbin orbit before transferring to the Mun. (+8)
  • Accurate Altair: The Altair Munar Lander includes a descent module and an ascent module, and has space for all four kerbals. (+7)
  • Fuel Cells: The Altair lander is powered by a fuel cell. (+2)
  • Kerbin Departure Stage: The Mun transfer burn is done using the upper stage of the rocket that launched the Altair lander. (+3)
  • Altair Orbital Insertion: The orbital insertion burn at the Mun is done using the engines and fuel system of the Altair lander. (+3)

Total: 78

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The second challenge has been added to the original post.

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Since my earlier entry I've upgraded my Altair design to allow it to work better and fulfill more challenge requirements, but I'm saving the reworked design for a future mission. In the meantime I have done an entry for the second challenge, which is the purpose of this post.

Mission designation: ARM1 (Asteroid Rendezvous Mission 1).

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This is the asteroid chosen for the rendezvous mission. It's a Class E asteroid on course to fly by Kerbin with a periapsis of only seven thousand kilometers, making it relatively easy to reach. It's going to be in Kerbin's SOI for ten days, and the mission will need to be completed within that time period.

The first part of the mission to be launched is the Sirius ARM (Asteroid Research Module). It is derived from the Altair lander, and is very similar in design. It is launched on an Ares V.

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Ignition.

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Liftoff of ARM1-Sirius.

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The launch window was timed to match the inclination of the asteroid. The ARM launches into a standard 120km parking orbit with an inclination of 31°. Acceleration is limited on this launch in an attempt to improve efficiency.

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Commencing gravity turn.

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Breaking sound barrier.

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Booster cutoff and separation.

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Reaching maximum dynamic pressure.

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First stage cutoff and separation, KDSE ignition.

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Fairing separation.

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Circularizing.

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Confirmation that the SRBs landed successfully.

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Circularization successful. I realize now that I forgot to add struts to the ARM to make it look properly connected to the KDS. I'll have to fix that in future iterations.

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The Sirius ARM now awaits the crew in orbit.

 

Shortly after the ARM is launched, the crew prepare to launch on an Ares I rocket. The crew of this mission are Valentina Kerman (Orion Pilot), Wenliana Kerman (Scientist), Phoanne Kerman (Engineer), and Berella Kerman (Lander Pilot).

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Ignition.

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Liftoff of ARM1-Orion.

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Commencing gravity turn.

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First stage cutoff.

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First stage separation. As you can see, I solved the issue with the first stage exploding (the fairing wasn't separating with enough force and crashed into the stage).

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Second stage ignition.

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Confirmation that the first stage landed successfully.

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Reaching maximum dynamic pressure.

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Second stage cutoff as 80km apoapsis is reached.

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LES jettison.

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Preparing the circularization burn.

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Circularizing.

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Circularization complete.

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Second stage separation. A staging error meant that the separation motors did not fire.

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Orion deploys solar arrays and antenna.

After quite an expensive rendezvous (mainly on account of the 4° plane change) the Orion spacecraft approaches the Sirius ARM.

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Re-orienting the ARM to assist with docking.

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Docking successful.

 

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The crew must now prepare to transfer to the asteroid.

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The spacecraft isn't perfectly inclined for the transfer, so a somewhat expensive plane change must be done.

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Plane change complete.

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A maneuver is plotted to intercept the asteroid in several days.

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After waiting for 3 days in Kerbin orbit, the KDS burns to transfer to the asteroid.

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Transfer burn complete.

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KDS separation.

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The KDS executes a brief radial burn to place itself on a collision course with Kerbin.

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A brief mid-course correction is needed to move the closest approach a bit closer.

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A maneuver is plotted to match velocity with the asteroid at closest approach.

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Matching velocity.

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The asteroid is a bit further away than anticipated, but is approached after a brief burn in its direction.

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This is a pretty large asteroid.

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Berella Kerman transfers to the ARM, which then undocks from Orion.

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After the ARM deploys a special payload, Berella prepares to connect it to the asteroid using the specialized grabbing unit attached to the ARM.

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Connection secured. It appears as though the ARM has sunk into the regolith a bit; it appears that this asteroid is coated with a thick layer of dust. It's a good job the engines on the ARM aren't needed any more.

Now for that special payload that was deployed from the ARM before the asteroid docking:

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It's a science stick for poking the asteroid with; fully equipped with science equipment.

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Unfortunately the stick ran out of fuel before it could reach the asteroid. 

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The Orion spacecraft prepares to dock again with the ARM now that it is securely connected to the asteroid.

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Docking successful.

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Science experiments are done, the main ones involving the drilling unit on the ARM. The materials extracted from the asteroid appear to be usable as fuel after some refining.

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EVAs are also conducted during the mission.

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The crew now prepare to leave the asteroid. They transfer back to the Orion spacecraft and undock from the ARM.

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The return maneuver will consume almost all of the Orion's fuel.

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Executing return maneuver.

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Approaching the atmosphere.

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Service module jettison.

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Re-entering.

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Re-entry successful. Drogue chute deployment.

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Main chute deployment.

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Landing successful.

Mission outcome: partial success. The asteroid rendezvous was successful with the crew spending about 6 days in space, but we failed in the task of poking the asteroid with a stick.

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General Score

  • Launch Vehicles: Only use replicas of the Constellation-specific launch vehicles (Ares I, Ares IV, and Ares V) for all launches from Kerbin. (+10)
  • Ares I: Your Ares I analogue has one solid rocket motor on the first stage and one liquid rocket engine on the second stage. (+5)
  • Ares V: Your Ares V analogue has 5 liquid rocket engines and two solid rocket boosters on the first stage, and one liquid rocket engine on the second stage. (+5)
  • Stage Recovery 1: The solid first stage of the Ares I can land safely in the ocean with parachutes. (+3)
  • Stage Recovery 2: The SRBs on the Ares IV and V can land safely in the ocean with parachutes. (+4)
  • Orion: Orion is launched on the Ares I rocket and has space for at least three kerbals for stock entries, or four kerbals for modded entries. (+6)
  • Crew Safety: Orion includes a solid-fueled launch escape tower. (+4)
  • Commnet: Do everything with commnet enabled at the default (normal mode) settings or more difficult. (+10)

Mission Score

  • Objective: Send a fully crewed Orion spacecraft and an Asteroid Research Module to rendezvous with a Near Kerbin Asteroid (NKA), and then return the crew safely to Kerbin. (+20)
  • Kerbin Orbit Rendezvous: The Orion spacecraft and the ARM are launched separately and dock in Kerbin orbit before transferring to the asteroid. (+5)
  • Asteroid Research Module: The ARM is derived in some way from the Altair lander (it should be visually similar), and includes a grabbing unit to attach to the asteroid. It should be able to undock from the Orion spacecraft when near the asteroid, and land on the asteroid using its own propulsion systems. (+8)
  • Asteroid Science: The ARM includes a functional drill, ore tanks, and some sort of science equipment for surveying the asteroid. (+5)
  • Crew Comfort: The ARM includes habitation space for all of the kerbals on the mission. (+5)
  • Moderate Duration: The total time the crew spend in space is less than 20 Kerbin days. (+6)

Total: 96

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53 minutes ago, Martian Emigrant said:

Hi Jane.

Here is your patches.

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Oh wow, thanks for making these! I'll add them to the OP by the relevant challenges.

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It's very nice to see this as a proposed challenge! 

 Having made a full Duna return constellation pack a few years ago I know what a challenge it is! 

 My new pack, still frustratingly in progress is a quantum leap over my last pack, as such it's taking an age and testing my resolve..

 I won't be entering this though, at least not for a while, my last pack was made before stock ISRU for one. 

 I wish everyone good luck on this as it will take you a very long time indeed to make these craft realistically with stock parts! 

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Darn.

I have to make another one.

Here:

 

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I am working on building/Testing my hardware. I will be submitting for my first patch soon.

 

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Building a functional Ares I copy is suprisingly difficult. The Kickback SRB is just lacking in power...

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1 hour ago, Xeldrak said:

Building a functional Ares I copy is suprisingly difficult. The Kickback SRB is just lacking in power...

I suppose stock solid rockets do somewhat increase the challenge of replicating the Ares I accurately. I may modify the rules to allow the use of multiple solid rocket motors together for the Ares I first stage in a stock install.

EDIT: I am going to modify the rules to allow this. Stock solid rocket motors (and even stock-balanced modded ones like the modular SRB I used) impose enough extra difficulty for a stock entry that this seems to be a sensible decision for balance.

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Hello Friends, Kerbals and Judges.

I have started a mission. That I can safely say is doing well. All stock no automation.

The Mission report: Doing it Constellation Style

Imgur, mostly in order if you start from the bottom: http://imgur.com/a/3YW48

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Enough for today.

 

Till later,

 

ME

 

 

 

 

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@Martian Emigrant You have some pretty good designs, I look forward to seeing this continue. And you'll be glad to know that in accordance with the rule change I made earlier today, your Ares I does comply with the single-first-stage-engine rule.

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@eloquentJane Pretty cool challenge and designs. :) It also looks like I need to fix the exhaust plume on the SRB...

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1 minute ago, Angel-125 said:

@eloquentJane Pretty cool challenge and designs. :) It also looks like I need to fix the exhaust plume on the SRB...

Thanks.

And oh yeah, I forgot to make a bug report about that one. Although I don't know for certain that it's caused by M.O.L.E; I have a lot of mods installed which could be interfering with it.

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53 minutes ago, eloquentJane said:

Thanks.

And oh yeah, I forgot to make a bug report about that one. Although I don't know for certain that it's caused by M.O.L.E; I have a lot of mods installed which could be interfering with it.

No worries, it's MOLE; I already have a fix in the works. :)

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Why do the good challenges occur when I'm on placement!! 

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