PARADOX solving.

[YNM]

13 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

Thats why its called your SUBconsicous.  You are not aware of your subconscious making up everything.

Oh wow, should I cut out my organs or something ? 

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Though, this is not really science, someone should warn the mods...

EDIT : Frame that, answered below.

Edited April 15, 2017 by YNM

[Orion Kerman]

I think you should get thompberry Kerman to help with brain problems.

@Just Jim s book

 

Edited April 15, 2017 by Orion Kerman

[Findthepin1]

1 minute ago, YNM said:

Though, this is not really science, someone should warn the mods...

Pretty sure we're not breaking any rules. All the mods could do is to move this thread to the Lounge, and I'm not sure if even that is warranted. 

[MiffedStarfish]

Yeah, @Orion Kerman I would ask the mods to move this to forums games, and maybe rename to "paradox solving game"

Ignore this

Edited April 15, 2017 by MiffedStarfish

[tater]

3 minutes ago, YNM said:

All the fuss of Russel's teapot are also like that. (We often change it down here to a floating lunch box somewhere between here and object body (or bodies).

I think Sam Harris used an example once of a huge diamond buried in his back yard. Would you lend him substantial money based on the claim that there is this 'fridge-sized diamond in his yard? He goes on to suggest that it's an important belief to him, that he would;t want to live in a world without a giant diamond in his yard, etc. He's pretty funny.

[Red Iron Crown]

Moderator here. This thread touches on topics like provability and forming good hypotheses so it can stay here. If you dislike the thread then by all means don't read it or participate, but please no more calls for moderator action (per Rule 3.3).

[tater]

Or name it "Epistemology rabbit hole," LOL.

[Orion Kerman]

Ok @MiffedStarfish

But i will rename.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Orion Kerman

[YNM]

6 minutes ago, tater said:

I think Sam Harris used an example once of a huge diamond buried in his back yard. Would you lend him substantial money based on the claim that there is this 'fridge-sized diamond in his yard? He goes on to suggest that it's an important belief to him, that he would;t want to live in a world without a giant diamond in his yard, etc. He's pretty funny.

Well some paradoxes like that can actually be quite important in understanding observation and analysis (ie. statistics) - that you don't, can't and will never know everything about it. You can only say about things you've carefully constructed to ensure those perturbation will more or less just zeroes out, or just straight out say what you've observed.

Edited April 15, 2017 by YNM

[Orion Kerman]

Ok @MiffedStarfish

Let's solve another.

How about 

Both of the sentences refer to a sentence within the picture

Then we will do hard and more scientific paradoxes

Edited April 15, 2017 by Orion Kerman

[Findthepin1]

14 minutes ago, Orion Kerman said:

Ok @MiffedStarfish

Let's solve another.

How about 

Both of the sentences refer to a sentence within the picture

Then we will do hard and more scientific paradoxes

Frame of reference

Turn it upside down and the "true" one is solved, but the "false" one still needs work.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Findthepin1

[Orion Kerman]

But the sentence then at the top say it is false which is still another paradox so hmmmmm.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Orion Kerman

[Red Iron Crown]

Please leave the title alone moving forward, people will think it's a new thread.

My contribution: What would happen if Pinocchio said "My nose is about to grow"? Would his nose grow or not?

[MiffedStarfish]

turn it sideways. There is no sentence at the top or bottom, loop ended, paradox over. Next.

[Orion Kerman]

Good one hmmm well here is a solution it's no that pinnocio it's a different one

1 minute ago, MiffedStarfish said:

turn it sideways. There is no sentence at the top or bottom, loop ended, paradox over. Next.

Great solved @MiffedStarfish

 

Now how do we solve zenos paradox

Edited April 15, 2017 by Orion Kerman

[Findthepin1]

Just now, Red Iron Crown said:

Please leave the title alone moving forward, people will think it's a new thread.

My contribution: What would happen if Pinocchio said "My nose is about to grow"? Would his nose grow or not?

Yes. If his nose did not grow within a timeframe acceptable to be called "about to", his sentence would become false, and his nose would grow. This wouldn't make his sentence true again and become an infinite loop, because by the time his nose started to grow, the time period between the point in time where he said his nose was *about to* grow and the point in time where it did, is too large a timeframe (as I said earlier in this post) to be considered 'about to'. So it would grow.

[Orion Kerman]

Kill the tortoise??? 

[Findthepin1]

Just now, Orion Kerman said:

Kill the tortoise??? 

What do you mean?

EDIT: Nevermind

Edited April 15, 2017 by Findthepin1

[Orion Kerman]

3 minutes ago, Findthepin1 said:

Yes. If his nose did not grow within a timeframe acceptable to be called "about to", his sentence would become false, and his nose would grow. This wouldn't make his sentence true again and become an infinite loop, because by the time his nose started to grow, the time period between the point in time where he said his nose was *about to* grow and the point in time where it did, is too large a timeframe (as I said earlier in this post) to be considered 'about to'. So it would grow.

I like that

Search up zenos paradox, it means the tortoise would not move

Edit:ok

But if the man weighs more we could put them 1000 metres high and the man would fall faster.

 

Edited April 15, 2017 by Orion Kerman

[Findthepin1]

1 minute ago, Orion Kerman said:

I like that

Search up zenos paradox, it means the tortoise would not move

Edit:ok

Zeno's dichotomy paradox: the steps of dividing in half have to stop at the Planck distance, otherwise they are physically impossible. That means there are a finite number of steps that are needed to get all the way across the path.

I don't know right now how to solve the tortoise one.

[Orion Kerman]

Next paradox: if no one goes to a restaurant because it is always full but everyone knows when it's empty what will happen.

[Urses]

5 hours ago, Nibb31 said:

Can you prove to me that you are not just a simulated AI designed to make us think that you are a real person asking a question on a forum?

Bet you can't !!!

Turing test?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

PS: if this is a full AI why it is not a real person?

Funny Kabooms

Urses

Edited April 15, 2017 by Urses

[Brotoro]

7 hours ago, Orion Kerman said:

 

@Brotoro prove that you did!

What? Are we changing the rules now? I thought you were playing by the "I make an outrageous statement, and you need to disprove me!" rules.  So you should be the one to disprove me. Come on...I thought I created you better than that.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Brotoro

[mikegarrison]

12 hours ago, Steel said:

Just to be completely, unnecessarily pedantic, Russell's teapot is actually supposed to be between Earth and Mars, nowhere as exciting and distant as the Oort cloud.

Also, since the inner edge of the Oort cloud is - by many estimates - almost a light year away, then even the Solar Probe is not going to get there any time soon.

It moved. Prove that it didn't!

[Orion Kerman]

Dead people is the answer because after time everyone will die.