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On topic for a Mars—or deep space— colony and related to humans forced to do labor ^^^ what happens when there are people who do not meaningfully contribute, but take resources? Ie: The Cold Equations (https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/the-cold-equations/), alternately TANSTAAFL! from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. We see such people here all the time now (far more than in even the recent past, least here in ABQ, or last time I was in LA or San Francisco). They are effectively allowed to expire outside, it just tends to be in slow motion compared to chucking them out the airlock on Mars (or an O'Neill colony). If instead there is such a thing as a free lunch! for all, what happens if too many stop doing the work required to survive?

This, and it would probably work much better with good fusion. Or if you don't care about radiation as you are on Venus or Jupiter you skip the heat exchanger, look up project Pluto, nuclear ramjet

I have a Float SSTO that works great and can be landed with full fuel no problem. Unfortunately, after making its way around Kerbin the deal level/interaction gets glitched and it breaks apart a few feet above the water despite being below the Impact tolerance speed. The orbit is also not showing up right now so I know I'm fighting some compounding glitches. I'd love tog et it fixed since the plane is pretty cool.

Well, then you aren't looking enough. Sure, those people don't post a lot anymore save for... one or two, but god if I didn't had to read people absolutely unloading on KSP1 to somehow justify the existence of KSP2 and how whatever we have now is better and provides a better foundation (even though it literally doesn't). I wish I hadn't read the literal opposite at least once.

What you see in his post is patch that does what he said (delete ModuleParachute and ModuleDragModifier).

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I'll just drop this here; What cultures in history never engaged in slavery? Grok @grok: Well, it seems that finding a society or culture in history that never engaged in slavery is like searching for a needle in a haystack, but with the added challenge of the needle being invisible and the haystack being on fire. In other words, it's a difficult task. Judging from the information provided, it appears that slavery has been a part of many societies throughout history, from the Romans and Vikings to various African societies and Native American tribes. Even societies that didn't practice slavery on a large scale or were more egalitarian in nature, like the Comanche and the Tehuelche of Patagonia, still engaged in some form of enslavement, albeit on a smaller scale. So, to answer your question, while there might have been societies that didn't engage in slavery on a large or institutionalized scale, it's challenging to find a culture in history that never engaged in slavery at all. It's like trying to find a unicorn in a field of horses - you might see something that looks different, but at the end of the day, it's still a horse."

I should add that I get that a space society has a necessary for of collectivism that Earth lacks—you can't easily hang out outside, so infrastructure is literally life. I suppose you could simply build a tunnel/whatever elsewhere at some point once the colony is more mature. I honestly can't imagine wanting to move to Mars.

At gunpoint. I want a market (imaginary me on Mars ), so "we" can organize it some other way, but I will sell stuff—how does Mars stop me from this unsanctioned economy? Throw me out the airlock, or disallow my choice? That's the thing, in a market, if a group wants to live collectively—go for it! More power to them. I'm unaware of other economic models that can exist without prohibiting a market. Regardless, they might want stuff from Earth, so I hope dank memes sell well, dunno what else they do for money sans sandworms and spice

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There are accounting records in cuneiform involving slave trading from ancient Sumeria. Some of the oldest written records involve accounting all over the world and chattel slavery was common everywhere at one time or another. You know what, just roll with what you want, but you are actually being quite the opposite of persuasive. I don't want you trying to convince me of your wishful thinking through sheer walls of words. This is not a good faith discussion on your part, I am disengaging.

As an aside, they kind of did. Almost 2000 years earlier, Eratosthenes correctly estimated the size of the Earth, within about 1%. Then 300 years after that, Ptolemy redid the calculation incorrectly, but his answer stood as valid for 1500 years because the church liked Ptolomy better than Eratosthenes. So when Columbus came along and wanted to reach Asia via a "shorter way" than by going east, it was reasonable to go west. It was only after Magellan's flotilla first sailed across the Pacific 25 years later that they realized the Earth was a lot bigger than Ptolemy had estimated.

I tend to doubt that many human societies larger than, say, nuclear families have truly not had any concept of personal ownership. People spend time and calories making tools and gathering food, and it is unlikely they would just have no concept that the results of their labor belong to them. A small Mars colony may well start out with most things just being community property, but I would bet that once it got to be enough, people would start claiming their own spaces and possessions.

is a mod that recompiles old stuff from old mods. now parts: -blu 82 "daisy cutter" -a ball turret -norden bombsight near future parts: -atomic bomb "trinity" -v - 2 german balistic missile. you can install here :install v - 0.1.

I never really considered the ability to turn off the hover mode since it could be detrimental to the survival of the craft and its occupants. I suppose I could add a slider to modify the vertical acceleration between 0 and maxVerticalAccel, which would effectively turn off the hover mode if it were set to 0. This might also lead to the PAW becoming a bit more cluttered though. No promises, but I'll at least consider adding this. I am aware of the current lack of an IVA for the Constitution-class, as well as the Type F Shuttle. I do plan on making my own IVAs for these, as well as the forthcoming Constitution-Refit, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I do plan on making them so that they go with my ships instead of reusing models made by others.

They say history is studied for a reason. We learn new things all the time. This is not the case. Slavery is a very new invention. Obviously murder and arguments have existed throughout all history. I don’t know what your definition of peace is. I’m not saying it was a utopia. I’m not saying we should adopt their form of society either. I’m saying what we have now is not the end all be all of what society can look like. If it is, we have peaked and humanity will cease to exist by the year 3000. Not really. There’s only one way to observe the world, but human society can be organized however we want. Unless we really are dumb, unthinking animals with no free will or consciousness, as I once argued we were when debating how humans are responding climate change, comparing it to dinosaurs seeing a twinkle in the sky hours before the asteroid hit and being physically incapable of doing anything about it. I’m of the opinion we aren’t. We certainly have a society that tells us that though, what with famous quotes like “war never changes” from video games.

Selling addictive substances tends to be profitable. Ask Starbucks about that.

That's like saying there should be some other way to find truth than the scientific method. Even in prison people use markets (oddly enough, the most free economies are "black markets"). Markets automatically assign value to scarce resources. In some made up system ("Do what we say, or we throw you out the airlock!") I imagine a market forms anyway. Also, they might want to buy stuff from Earth, so solving the trade issue is something they'll have to come up with if they want literally anything not home grown on Mars. Like I said, I'm not a Mars person, I don't actually see it closing. The old O'Neill ideas were predicated on a workforce in space building solar power sats for Earth needing someplace to live—but I tend to think automation ends much of this. I wanna see some cool SF future, just not sure how it ever works out.

In RO, MechJeb ascent guidance works better with primer vector guidance (PVG) rather than the classic ascent guidance. For early rockets you generally don't have any coast phases (which classic relies on) but PVG is designed to handle continuous burn to orbit and in the recent versions can even handle unguided SRB kick stages. For example, this is the first orbital rocket I used in my latest save. It has a RD-102 first stage, XLR-11 second stage and two GCRC kick stages. With the MechJeb settings shown in the image, it flies itself to orbit (provided test flight doesn't fail an engine).

Hi, I'm interested in identifying where my capsule will land after it re-enters Earth's atmosphere in Realism Overhaul. I found out that a mod called Trajectories does this. I just checked with Bing Copilot (ChatGPT), and it says I need to install Trajectories separately. Is this really the case? Does Realism Overhaul already come with functionality that I'm looking for? Thanks in advance. Ben

New history. Huh. Quiet part out loud. All peoples had peaceful times at times. All peoples have been slavers and been enslaved at times. The Huron and other peoples in the Iroquois Confederacy also had their darker moments. If you only want to look back and see the good times, that is your prerogative. But I just can't fit the many highly corroborated facts into the tiny box you are handing to me.

I suggest reading The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity by David Graeber and David Wengrow and for a good overview of societies like the Wendat (Huron) Indians who did not have private property in the sense we know today but still functioned just fine. Even humans 50,000 years ago were able to work together to build large structures without having to barter each other into doing it, or suppress people into slaves. Looking at modern anthropological evidence is much better than parroting philosophical arguments made centuries ago. I can’t and won’t force you though, but if you prefer to adhere to dogmas instead of looking at facts, it’s your choice. Well in the event that doesn’t prove up to the task of space colonization, I sure as heck hope the next generation is more flexible and imaginative. I think they will definitely have the money to build a small, dependent colony (population in the hundreds). But it will never be self sustaining unless something changes with humanity itself. I would be very interested to know how compact those constructions robots could be made. Kinda like how the battle droids unfold in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. There’s also the possibility of avoiding a folding mechanism and sending the robots in pieces and assembling them on the surface.

Here's a very quick (and horridly handling) aircraft I slapped together. As you can see four Goliaths are enough to push that plane body to over 10km (even with 80+ kerbals on board) but it could do with more wing incidence as it needed to hold nose up to get enough lift and the wings are frankly about half the size I'd want for that size of craft.

Technically, we were told we'd get information some time this week. It is just disheartening that they always mean "late Friday right before we close shop for the weekend so we don't have to answer any questions about the lack of information we give".

I would like to build a rock crawler. For an idea of the slopes I think a rover should be able to drive, just head straight north from KSC for an hour or two. You'll figure out soon enough that the normal wheels can't handle even mild off-roading, no matter how good you get with switch-backing and doing dumb tricks to gain speed. It's a real shame. I'm not talking about 45 degree grades either, although it would be nice to have a very low gear that could actually drive up one of those, but to even maintain speed going up a 10~12 degree grade would be a godsend. More weight which means less speed which means torque is less effective overall. Lack of refueling options in the field is also a problem, especially on Kerbin (good luck finding flat ground to align your docking ports deep in the northern mountains).