Boris-Barboris

Craft settings are just shortcuts to moderation parameters. If some craft misbehaves badly, editing them shouldn't help much. In general, AA's default tuning is best for agile crafts with a lot of authority and CoL close to CoM. Describing how exactly more advanced options work is quite laborious. If you have, let's say, pitch problem, you can try to play around with quadr Kp of the respective angvel controller. Don't expect wonders though. Most parameters are described on github readme: https://github.com/Boris-Barboris/AtmosphereAutopilot Parameters that have Kp in their name should probably help you the most. I'd say it's smarter to just use the right tool for the job, which is, apparently, SAS for some of your crafts.

Unfortunately, you can't. AA's code needs to be changed. If it's very important to you, you'll have to uninstall AA

It's not designed to handle quadrocopters, only conventional planes.

No. Not a bad idea though.

@Morse, do you think the problem of the guy one post above is the same as in your post?

1). Shift+<Hotkey> does that IIRC. 2). That would prevent you from pre-configuring stuff before enabling AA. Sorry, no, I just put my trust in Lisias's eventual victory and do other things.

test the release

You can also try to increase thrustProviderModuleIndex by 1 in part config. AA moves Gimbal modules to the head of module list, so all other modules before gimbal have their offsets increased by one. Oh, I see, AA already fixes thrustProviderModuleIndex, but only for first ModuleSurfaceFX it finds. That explains why deleting the second one fixes the problem. Can you give me the part config? I don't have a DLC.

Guys, logs.

What you see is Specedock's notification about me stating that old 1.5.16 (that was created to tackle KSP 1.8.0) still works under KSP 1.12.1 There is no new release.

Sorry, no idea. Try installing AA a couple game launches after FAR install.

moder_cutoff_ias property in pitch's angvel controller UI is instrumental velocity (proportional to square root of dyn pressure) below wich AoA and G moderation is disabled, you can modify it. Out of atmosphere thing: I'm sure you'll be fine just disabling it on your own.

Plans are to do nothing, so no

no

It is the latest stable version, there's nothing wrong with it. Is CKAN refusing to install it?

My bad, you're right, it's not supposed to be in AA folder, packaging mistake. There is no reason to use 1.5.17rc1, it didn't fix any bugs it was supposed to fix, so you can stay on 1.5.16.

works on my machine

It may execute in time but change something in the stock module/gameobject ordering. Could the number "8" be occupied by something?

Dear Sarbian, I've got a guy who got AtmosphereAutopilot broken by MFI 1.2.8 (I reproduced myself as well), apparently by this commit I do not understand the exact reason why the control is borked, but I have a pretty strong gut feeling that the stock update order is broken by it. Control/model artifacts I see suggest that the old schedule of physics update: Control input taken from input devices and written to vessel's control state -> onPreAutopilot/onAutopilot/onPost.../onFlyByWire -> control surface module applies the actuation -> aerodynamics forces are applied -> Unity PhysX Update is violated by new MFI.

@Tahvohck and everyone else. It's ModularFlightIntergrator's new version. Rollback to 1.2.7.0 or updade to 1.2.9.0+, AA has no problem with it.

@Tahvohck First video indeed looks like some conflict, as if the control output from the AA is not matching the input to control surfaces, maybe there is an additional mod in the control chain. AA model decided that your craft is extremely unstable and overmoderated allowed AoA to such a small value that you could not recover from a nosedive. I don't think I'll have a look before friday, so if you could try to deduce the mod in question it could help immensely.

There was a landed-state detection bug but it was fixed in 1.5.14, are you guyes saying it's back in recent KSP versions on 1.5.16 AA?

@danbadone and others with the same problem, try https://github.com/Boris-Barboris/AtmosphereAutopilot/releases/tag/1.5.17rc1

I'll try to re-compile the dll against the new ksp libraries, maybe that'll be enough.