Sirad

' And when devs are operating in a bug-rich environment... ' I love that Sentence. So the Dev's created their own microclimate... This is something self fulfilling aint ?

I have read carefulle but maybe i overread it. Will the offset Engines/Parts be fixed too ?

Since i would prefer to have the new Version right now... ..take the time to get it right, this time. no rushing needed. I can wait... ...eh all others can wait i want it NOW!

I use frequently 1.2.2. For Playing RSS.

Well, you already posted the points you were pulling out. I did not see any Point that claims 'Mods made Stock' Looks like a randomly picked list. Quickly Rushed and Buggy (dejavu) not usable for this half assed insinuation. - The game has actually many Bugs. Stated Fact. Even the Church of KSK had to agree. - The release got rushed out buggy. Well. I just corrected that statemend another user wrote about that the game is 'Pushed broken.' KSP it's not Broken. its IMHO actually half-assed done and Buggy. So instead pulling this nonsense out against me you should be happy about someone dont let this stand uncorrected. You didnt. You think its broken ? - i made a joke about that one guy who said its all so damn easy. he replied. i replied and the tiny dispute was settled. Some have humor, some not. I have. even now. - i mentioned that it is possible to design far more efficient rockets if you use Tools/Mods. This is what i get my fun out of it. ...Lots of Posts, you widely missed the Point. Bad Example. - i explained how i learned to master this game until that level to be able to eyeball things too. Did i mentioned it has to be done that way ? - Waiting for a working KSP. Well im not the only one. and this will stand here until Bug #5235 gets fixed. Gosh, You really make me laugh. While i still se not the slightest hint that i was forcing or stating 'Mods' has to be made stock i feel insulted, oh I really feel insulted. i dont feel insulted because someone insinuated me that i was pushing into the 'mods made stock' sheme, no... I feel insulted because it was done so sloppy and with no proper love for the needed details. You must know, it is a sign of disrespect i absolutely love Details. I deserve to get my written word turned into utter lies and nonsense, a proper, stylish and well outthought way.... Besides that and all the Bugs this game currently has, an objective look to the way this game is actually heading and the way it MAY possibly go, leads to the insight that we, alltogether here and everyone who already bought the Game wont buy it a second time to support tce Cause of T2 (and a fraction of Squad) Maybe a lot here will pretend to do but at least---- So the Only way this game will live on is: New Customers. After all the Years i suggest that any Nerd in this Planetary system (and i proudly count myself to that group of dedicated Players) already own that game. Most of us even get the DLC's for free. So What kind of Future Customers this game is lurking at to wash in additional cash ? The un-nerdy-average-gamer. (oh what a blasphemic sentence) So we have a Game with no seriuos ingame help where a few additional graphics that could be F1-ed ingame would help the average gamer. Half assed features like the 'Radar Altimeter' could enter the Game fully, not hidden somewhere in IVA view, the a-1000-times mentioned DV Readout could enter the game too. There is Plenty of stuff that could enter the game to open it for a wider audience. Not for the sake of 'Mods made Stock' but for the sake of getting the Cash or get dropped. The decisions what to do are upon T2 at least. What does the average gamer do, who intentionally or accidentally Buys that game. He starts it. If he is a Nerd, he continues because he loves spaceflight and is willing to swim from dover to calais because of reasons. If he is a Typical gamer he tries to understand how it works and if he reaches no sucess in a specific amount of Time he drops it and writes a [snip] review. Or refund it. (oh what a blasphemic view) But this is how it goes. So we all know. whatever amount of money were earned selling this game long time ago is lost. any future Development only will happen if this game will open for a wider auditorium. And future customers entering. And i tell you a secret: We are not the average Gamer/Whale/Whatever kind of customer T2 is looking at. The development of the game has to, should go on for a long time because plenty Users are waiting for New features/new parts. Fact: No new customers no new content. T2 is no charity foundation. Im here because i like this game. Most of the Times... I expected more.

Great challenge!

Please show me the line where i wrote somewhere that the Game is 'unplayable' without 'my (or any) preferred mods'.

This is so funny :-)

Never, ever put your own line of 'how you are doing something' upon others and force anyone to do as you did. This is not objective. How anyone gets to that Point where he is able to 'eyeball stuff' is upon anyone self. No need to force others thru tedious trial and error stuff. this is a game at all and no exercice in 'masochistic behaviour' If i want to be masochistic i try dark soul with bare hands. I can eyeball NOW if i overdesign the rocket but thats no sucess but this is my opinion.... There is so much art in that game just by designing a rocket that there is no need to uselessly harden the use of it.

Thats the Point. I learned how to do orbital maneouvering and docking watching how mechjeb is doing it. So for me the game started easy and i had a learning curve. Now i know hot do dock, how to transfer and how to land. Even by eyeballing if i must, but i dont wanna. Tedious nonsense. There are quite plenty enough things left over in this game where a player can fail comically without the tedious nonsense to eyeball something like assembling a station around Earth in full size RSS. I would do if the NASA too would eyeball their rendezvous maneouvers. but---- A few posts ago some were mentioned..., radar altimeter only in iva, orbit info only in map mode, precice burns possible while its impossible to detect how much DV the rocket has. I guess (well there are quite a lot of posts here where 'guessing' is enhanced into a 'science') that this was not intentionally planned. It was left out because i 'guess' the wide river of Early acess money was flowing elsewhere....

Can you please supply my with a source where the developers just stated this Point ?

Of course, No Rage. Only a glimpse of greek myth, actually featuring Kassandra....

...perhaps ? Sure! But thats not the Point. Since the owner of that site is allowing critical views on the Product, i take that chance. I may get thrown poop at me, not the first time.... but... i have soap and can shower afterwards. There is a Line in this Post, who i couldn't have done any better it says: 'we're being pushed a broken product. ' This may not be absolutely correct, i would rather prefer 'we're been pushed a half done and rushed product' That may fit better. But since i have no insight what kind of code is done in what continent around our world on possibly cheapest rates, nor have i enough insight if other actually half done stuff (...) will be done maybe someday.... This is no early acess anymore. Its beeing sold as a Full priced Product and already been additionally monetarized via DLC (thanks god i get em for free...) I could live with a statement that says 'our team is currently editing the One line in the script that causes landing gear to explode, this may take 24 months, 50 million dollars, and a team of 500 People. You players surely have some additional dollars for us ? I never expect that all those other Yelling inconsistencys ever gets fixed, this is what we have the Holy Modders for. The modern concept of Software editing runs that way. Invest 1 Million, earn 100 Million and leave the rest for the modders. Nothing wrong with that. Playing an old 1.2.2 or 1.0.5 or 1.3.1 fully modded is still fun for me. I bet we wouldnt have gotten 1% of Moddable content even if 100% of the revenues were used for Development, This experience is like comparing Beethovens 9th against the Typical Youtube-yellers. We, the old players who may play this game even with no support, will play our old versions, but.... ....there are the new players, without the new players who buy this game at fullprice, (something gets invested in the Development, rest is for T2), development will not continue. No new Players, no development, no new Content. So what may happen if one buggy release gets out after another ? I rather prefer the 'Good version, good hype, good new players' instead the other way around. PS: One of the Main Reasons Computers advanced to our current Level were they were used to calculate trajectories of missiles. And this were initially and most times suborbital stuff. If anyone wants to know ask how complicated it was to calculate the paths for Voyager1/2 This is stuff that CAN MAYBE be done by Humans but, This is a Game, no example for 'trying to solve the N>2 body problem.' by whacking together boosters. this wont work.

Please name the specific line of my Post where i requested a 'Mod made Stock ?'

Oh yes we all had a good laugh about that, besides you can not compare 'typing ya keyboard' against a transfer between moving planets. Even with the usual pink KSP-Worshipper-Glasses on. So besides that, if the key to this game is overdesigning any rocket by factor 5 and fly straight to moho, then i must have missed something in this game. If there is proper physics calculated (besides the 3 body problem, it is) why is there no proper Stock tool to use it ? Its Possible, mechjeb (and other tools) show.

Well. i bet that guy who says 'im doing it stock without any mods' is the one who can do this even without using timewarp once. And without using a monitor for display... Without dv-readout its hard and without spreadsheets for your transfer windows its a mathematic tedious autistic nonsense to calculate your DV window.

Any guessing if this is gonna be fixed this Year ?

Good idea. This would ensure that this stuff gets fixed.

Like the console Port ? Riskmanagement probably decided that 'Trying to get away half done' is worth a second try ?

Any hint when and if this ever gets fixed ?

have the same issue now. Is this what we agreed to while signing the eula ?

This is what happened after i started the 1.4.1 i downloaded from GOG. Anyone else encountering that Problem ? Never had something like that occuring since the last 2 years but now after the installation of 1.4.1 What now to do ?

This is so GREAT! This is how this game should look alike this is how the 80+ Million dollars should have spent!

Good to read. Finally we are gettin' an Art pass. New Decouplers & Tank's look Great. Great in Terms that we can Build some rockets, fly them and show them to our Friends without having to be ashamed of the visual Style.

Well.... GREAT! End of January 2018 is something to look forward to. Hey Ho finally its a Date! I promise to stay in January 2018 until it gets released! No glimpse of February will ever crouch along until this Piece of Software gets released!