Bartholomew

I was just about to post a new topic for this issue, luckily I found this first. I have pretty much the same mod list as OP. Here's the output_log: output_log.txt If KAS is really the problem, and the only solution is to unistall it, that'd be a real bummer. Thank you in advance for your help!

Hello everyone. First of all I'd like to thank OP for all his mods.. I'm having so much fun with them! Life support just added another dimension to the game which was very needed, IMHO. I'm sorry if the question I'm going to ask is answered elsewhere, but I swear I've googled a lot, read the wiki and everything, but I still can't get the correct answer. I'm designing a new base to put in orbit, and I'm a bit curious about how Recycling works. On the wiki it says that and it also says I know that the values have changed a bit, MPL can save up to 50% of the supplies and the crew it affects is 4 people, while the RT-5000 can save up to 79% of the supplies and the crew it affects is 3 people. So. I've done some experimenting in the VAB. If I were to bring 8 people in a station with only the MPL, which saves up to 50% of supplies for 4 people, it would save 25% of supplies for 8 people. So if I bring a single can of 4500 supplies, 4500/(8*10.8*0.75) that's more or less 69 days, which is the exact same amount the Life Support Status gives me in this situation. Fantastic. Now I want a station with both the MPL and the RT-5000, 7 people on board, 4500kg of supplies. It has enough stuff for more or less 158 days, according to the Life Support Status. It seems that the formula is 4500/(3*10.8*0.21+4*10.8*0.5). That is, 3 people are affected by the RT-5000 and consume only 21% of the normal amount and 4 people are affected by the MPL and consume 50%. If I were to bring 8 people, the formula would be the exact same, that is 4500/(3*10.8*0.21+4*10.8*0.5+1*10.8*1). So the other guy wouldn't be affected at all by the two recyclers and would consume the regular amount of supplies. In total, they would last for 114 days (confirmed by the Life Support Status, again). I tried many configurations, more recyclers, more people, more supplies, this formula seems to work if the crew of the stations is >= of the sum of the affected crew of the different recycling components. I don't exactly understand how that follows the "efficiency is reduced by the amount you are over capacity": does it only apply if I have one recycler? If not, can you please explain this to me? And another question. Same station as before, both MPL and RT-5000, 6 people on board, 4500 kg of supplies. Life Support Status tells me that they have enough for 255 days. So I assume that the first 3 kerbals are going to use the recycling functions of the more powerful RT-5000 and the remaining will use the MPL. Nope. 4500/(3*10.8*0.21+3*10.8*0.5) is more or less 195. So I try this: 4500/(3*10.8*0.21+3*10.8*X)=255 and X is 0.33466. This equation assumes that the 3 people are split evenly and the RT-5000 is filled first being the more powerful and then the efficiency of the MPL is somehow improved. But, well, that isn't the case according to the description of the MPL. So I instead try: 4500/(6*10.8*X)=255 and X is 0.27233. So, using the RT-5000 makes you use only 21% of what you'd use normally, while using this "combined efficiency" factor makes you use 27% of normal. How is this 73% saved calculated? I mean, what's the actual rule? I'm sorry for the long post, I'm just a curious guy xD