AngryBadger

I just watched the trailer on YouTube, I don't think I've ever been this hyped for a PC game. The video was so well done, I'm already looking for a place to swipe my cheque card.

They aren't going back on anything. They made it clear in the announcement of Making History it would be free like they promised. They said it again during the live stream of the launch. There were also Squad people in the stream chat saying that they are dealing with issues that delayed the roll out of the free DLC to early adopters but they are busy fixing it. You'll get it if you qualify, they even mentioned that if for some reason you don't, you can contact their support and they'll help.

Good question...

There you go.

Just ran mine now, it works as expected.

Did you happen to see the one on Reddit where they put a skin on a tank with Elon musk kinda dancing with a bright coloured background on it? It was...Interesting.

I had that, I just force closed it and rebooted my PC. I'm pretty much playing on a potato laptop for the next month at least so I'm used to this kinda thing happening. Maybe it'll help?

You're right in that it's exposed to the outside world. The reason Take Two has to make it clear that they are collecting it and you are agreeing to it, is because it's personally identifiable information and they are doing their best to cover every single base they can to avoid legal issues down the road.

They get your IP when you connect to one of their services, be it an online part of a game, or even an internet forum etc, that's why it's in the EULA they need you to agee to the fact that your IP is exposed to them when you use their services. As for the EULA giving them the right to mine your computer, I'm not convinced it does. The EULA is implied to apply the software you are using, in this case KSP. The agreement for collecting information would therefore also be implied to include information given and exchanged within the application. I don't think agreeing to this EULA would actually give them the right mine data from parts of your computer that are not considered part of the application. I'm not a lawyer of course, but you're agreeing to a contract relating to KSP, and so all the agreements are implied to apply to KSP or it's associated online services, if any.

Did you buy the game through Steam originally?

I'm pretty sure that Squad will not say anything without express permission from Take Two, and if that ever comes I doubt it will come over a weekend. It's still not a fair response to go on Steam and call the game "spyware" and say it's crawling your PC for bank accounts and social security numbers with no proof at all that this is happening. The only tangegible thing we have right now is intercepted data that clearly shows no such information is being sent to Squad/TT.

But even if you were storing your data like that, in order for it to a problem in thise case KSP would actually have to be scanning your system and mining your data. There's no proof of this at all, not even in their other games that use a similar EULA, but still people are calling it spyware, seems unfair to me until someone actually proves that it is crawling your machine for your info.

There are people saying that KSP is now scanning your machine including your folders outside the game and looking for your personal information to send back to TT/Squad. Have a look through the threads discussing this here and you'll see it, and there are people doing it on Steam too. Even after someone posted the information it's sending back after he intercepted it, and it clearly showed it's not doing that. There's no evidence at all of hidden malicious ability, but people have jumped directly to that conclusion.

The only mod I use right now is KER, and it seems to work(I can't do the calculations myself so I just take what it says). Even if I used more and they didn't work it's hardly something to be angry about.

Definitely the historic parts, I can't wait to try out building a Saturn V. I'm also quite excited to see how things go witht he mission builder, it would add quite a bit of extra fun in the game if the community adopts it and starts sharing custom maid challenges and missions with each other.

The Kerbal portraits for the Mk 1-3 pod will be fixed in 1.4.1 if I remember correctly, it was said on the forum somewhere. There's no IVA for the pod yet but next week's update will fix it.

It has to say that, because you would be using your device to give them that info, and because the game sends info about the hardware and OS it's being played on, as we saw when the other person intercepted the data it sent back. There is no evidence at all to suggest they have any sort of hidden code crawling your machine to take data off of it. The only evidence is actually pointing to them not doing that, since they use the same EULA in other games and they are NOT using it to allow themselves to search around your personal folders to collect data I absolutely agree that they should have done a better job tailoring this to KSP to avoid confusion, but jumping to the conclusion that they're crawling your PC for data is a massive over reaction.

Only if you gave them that information, they've got no way of getting it unless you enter it into one of their online services, or use a Take Two game that has in app purchases. There is not place in KSP to enter you bank details, address or social security, so they aren't going to have that information.

They definitely should have put a bit more effort into making the EULA more relevant to the currrent state of KSP, but doing it this way was probably quicker. Or they have plans for it going forward that need these things agreed to. Costume packs for Kerbals or something. Maybe I shouldn't give them ideas.

Because it's a standard cut and paste EULA and they didn't customise it enough for KSP. The same EULA they use for GTA V, and to this day no one has found it rummaging through their personal folders. I agree they should have put more effort into making the EULA properly fit KSP, but if you look at the other games they have, and the reason they have that collection clause, it becomes clear it's there to cover them when they collect data given to them during a purchase or registration for an online service.

That doesn't mean they won't still try some sort of purchase system that requires them to get your agreement to data collection. But more likely than that, is it's just left over from the EULA's of the other games that are currently under their umbrella that do support the purchases of stuff. They probably decided to leave it in because that way if they do come up with some way to milk some money from the game they already have the data collecting part covered. Either way, there's nothing in there to suggest they're now going to invade your personal folders with a hidden piece of code to harvest information.

Maybe not, but it's still pretty obvious that it's intended to get you to agree to them collecting data you willingly give them, since that's how it's applied in the other games that use a very similar EULA. There is no reason to suddenly jump to the conclusion that they are going to start scanning your entire computer for personal data.

Yes, I'm well aware of that. But they used the same EULA, probably to save time, or maybe they intend to introduce in app purchases or microtransactions into KSP and they want that covered now already. There is nothing in the EULA that says they are oging to scan your pirvate files on yur computer, it has not happened in their other games because GTA has been out long enough that someone would have found out. The only reason KSP even has that stuff in the EULA now is because they cut and paste the standard one, and who knows maybe in future KSP will need it because they'll have microtransactions.

And yet no one playing GTA or Civ has found the game scanning their whole computer for the data. The only way they will collect that data is if you use a service like a microtransaction purchase, or link a social meida account to one of their services. KSP's EULA has it because they cut and pasted their standard EULA in. Or maybe they intend to have microtransactions in the future, and they're covering themselves now.

The part about collecting your data from the EULA is the same as their games that have inapp and online purchases in them, they have to have that in there because when you buy stuff with them, or register for an online service, they are collecting data from you. No where in there does it say they are using KSP to actively scan your entire computer. They have several other, much larger games than KSP out, all using a very similar EULA the difference is that in a game like GTA they have microtransactions which requires you to pay for things, so they put in the EULA that they'll be collecting that data. If they were going to be scanning your computer, they would be doing it in the other games too, and someone would have found out by now.