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  1. GoAHead
    @Lisiashave you downloaded my provided zip file which contains the Gamedata folder? and if.. you shouldn't delete anything in it due to it also caused not to work for me anymore (e.g planet pack or contracts) otherwise ends up in crashing i tested the new release and it worked for a new deployed craft (except 1 credid to less but.. totally negligible and ok for me) but not for the craft awaiting recovery from a previous savegame (the savegame i provided with the name "RecoverMe").. but thats fine for me. i can cheat back the 36.000.00 credits. i will have an eye on it and report back if something strange happens. thx UPDATE: i tested the wrong craft which had a non scaled reactor... with the scaled one i'm loosing ~ 600.000 credits on recovery
  2. GoAHead
    thx for every minute you spend time at it. at this point this bug forces me to stop playing KSP... so some other games in my steam list gets some attention. no need to hurry. thx again for all you great work
  3. GoAHead
    hi @Lisias.. ok i already prepared everything before reading your last post. so here is my share which contains the gamadata and savegame with the craft file => https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am0PDmGqv17_irozNctLS4tCfhzBaQ?e=1x9bVW the savegame is important cause.. if you load this you can recover a craft on the landingstrip which causes millions of wrong substracted credits. but the craft is the same as provided within the savegamefolder. This is the craft i noticed it the first time due to running completely out of credits if you newly deploy the craft and recover it it also generates misfunding but not as mutch as the specific savegame EDIT: it might be the craftfile has currently a non scaled reactor atteched to it. just scale it down to reproduce.
  4. GoAHead
    thats not as easy cause the craft is part of my maininstall.. means i have to make a minimal-install out of it, otherwise your rig is flying off in space. takes a while.. guess tomorrow.. have to leave now
  5. GoAHead
    hi @Lisias hi. i already installed your fix then i loaded my save where my craft was already landed and awaiting recovery. after recovery it substracted over 330 millions of credits. (i guess quite the same amount as before the fix) does this fix only work on new deployed craft? so i deployed a new craft my starting funds where (thx @cheatmenue) 12.000.000 deployed the craft and recovered it so in this case 12.000.000 -9.925.530 = 2.074.470 to less :-( there seems still something fishy running out of ideas so my fix will be not scale those parts at all or don't use it on recoverable crafts like sstos
  6. GoAHead
    you'r welcome.. .again
  7. GoAHead
    finally i found parts originating from KSPI-E which also has refund issues IXSMainHullReactor and MuonCatFusionReactor2 they both use the module "InertialConfinementReactor" same as the IT part Interstellar-Technologies-ICFSC-Reactor maybe this helps. i have no clue.. @Lisias jfyi
  8. GoAHead
    @Lisiasi can confirm the whole funds matches the expected value after recovery when using kspiWarpCoreUnit2 but where is this coming from ? you shouldn't have said that. i was incorrect with the refunding. i didn't had a look at the overall funds but focused my attention to this weird entry "+- xvalue" is this some correcting thingy from recall?
  9. GoAHead
    i added some pics which supports my claim :-). the thing is.. i didn't recognize it initially cause the negative value was so small.. until 36.000.000 was substracted from my funds after recovering a craft which uised an IT part . now i had time to have a look at other parts also from the original mod and tadaa.. it seems to be a general KSPI-E thingy https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am0PDmGqv17_iros7xAjxSejfE3Wzg?e=yeYvkR
  10. GoAHead
    @Lisiashave you scaled it down? cause it only happens when parts get scaled (i only tried it with downscaling) and i tried it with the mentioned reactors in my recent post and got negative refunding
  11. GoAHead
    hi there, i found a proplem which results in negative funds when recovering a vessel which uses KSPI-E reactors (also KSPI-E Extension mod affected) @Lisiasdid already some debuggung and ruled out Tweakscale. so here is the description on how to reproduce and lisias outcome ------------ all logs data,ckan-file,craft and images can be found here => https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am0PDmGqv17_iroEwGwOHWpKz7xcAw?e=6tgnlx How to reproduce: have a minimal install like the provided mod ckan modfile modpack-minimal.ckan (KSPI-E with its depenencies) open SPH Load the Vessel "rbug[xxx] or create your own with one of the Reactors e.g Name: FURMagTar Name: TweakableAntimatterReactor2 Name: FNFissionFusionCatReactorMk1 etc... Proceed to runway recover results in negative refunds only happens when the part is scaled do the same with the craft "unscaled" no negative refunds happen Findings from @Lisias i hope you can have a look into this.
  12. GoAHead
    hi there, i found a proplem which results in negative funds when recovering a vessel which uses specific IT parts. @Lisiasdid already some debuggung and ruled out Tweakscale. so here is the description on how to reproduce and lisias outcome ------------ all logs data,ckan-file,craft and images can be found here => https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am0PDmGqv17_iroEwGwOHWpKz7xcAw?e=6tgnlx How to reproduce: open SPH Load the Vessel "rbug" Proceed to runway recover results in negative refunds seems to happen only when the part is scaled (scaled down on vessel "rbug") Findings from @Lisias i hope you can have a look into this.
  13. Lisias

    Hi!

    I have some news for you on Recall's thread:

    Not the news you would like, I still don't know whats happening - I could only confirm this is not a problem being caused by Recall neither TweakScale.

    I'm trying to figure out what to do next.

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    2. Lisias

      Lisias

      Hi!

      I concluded the report:

      There's something fishy on the IT part config. Since I don't know the KSPIE PartModules, I can't say what, but hey… Now we know where and how.

      You will need help from the IT guys, and probably from the KSPIE's maintainer too in order to identify exactly why only IT parts are borking.

       

    3. GoAHead

      GoAHead

      thx @Lisias. i will let them know. i'm afraid there will be no support. .. but lets try

    4. Lisias

      Lisias

      Just to finish the report, as I had diagnosed things later and my last message here left implied that KSPIE and/or IT were at fault somhow:

      • It's a KSP's limitation : the IPartCostModifier uses float , and so are prone to loss of precision with really expensive (or cheap) parts.
      • KSPIE had no role in the problem, other then triggering it.
        • IT, ditto. It only happens that these parts are expensive enough to get screwed by the float squashing problem.
      • A new PartModule were added on KSP-Recall to handle the situation.
      • All the other problems detected were just noise, they didn't affected the outcome.
  14. GoAHead
    hi, you need interstellar technologies. the reaktor is part of it and extends the KSPIE part list. that was the reason i also providesd the ckan mod file :-)
  15. GoAHead
    hi @Lisias and here i am again :-) certainly with some things going bad. but this time i already made a clean basicinstallation to reproduce it is about KSPIE and at least one KSPIE-reactor which ends up with negative refunds on recovery but only as soon it is scaled down (didn't try up). what happened on my original install was after i recovered my vessel i had 0.000 money left. i found out a negative refund of a part with ~ -36,000,000 was the cause. I now had to declare bankruptcy and a lot of kerbals lost their jobs How to reproduce: open SPH Load the Vessel "rbug" Proceed to runway recover results in negative refunds all logs data,ckan-file,craft and images can be found here => https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am0PDmGqv17_iroEwGwOHWpKz7xcAw?e=6tgnlx
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