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JetjockJim

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  1. Actually when you do the math you find that the Shuttle at lift off is about 6x more efficient than the SR at takeoff on a lb for lb basis. This has mainly to do with the incredible heat and pressure generated by the SSME In "cruise" of course, the Shuttle it is infinitely more efficient.
  2. Actually this is inaccurate. You're off by a factor of roughly 2. The SR burns 21,000 lbs/hr per side. As a former FA-18 SuperHornet pilot and a current airline pilot - I can provide a little context. To do an apples to apples comparison you need not only speed and fuel flow but also weight. At 0.85M and at mid fuel weight of 42K - a FA-18E will burn about 5600 lbs per hour total fuel flow. A mid weight SR-71 weighs about 105K - or 2.5x a much. If we were able to scale up the Super Hornet to the Blackbirds weight - all other things being the same - it would be burning about 14,000lbs/hr. at 510KTAS or 27.5lbs per NM. A SR-71 is burning 42,000lbs/hr at 1850KTA = 22.7lbs per NM. Therefor a SR-71 at cruise in afterburner is 17% more efficient than our scaled up Hornet flying in non AB. That in itself is pretty amazing. By Comparison, a Boeing 777 (what I fly) - at a mid cruise of .83M and weight of 550,000lbs is doing about 500KTAS and is burning about 13,500lbs fuel. If we scaled it down to the size of a SR - that would equate to a fuel flow of 2600lbs/hr or 5.2lbs/NM. This would make the scaled down B777 burning only 19% of what a Hornet or 5x more efficient - and only 23% of what a SR-71 or 4.3x more efficient in apples to apples comparison. Without doing the math - my guess is that a B737-800 would be somewhere about 25-26% or 3.9x more efficient of the fuel burn of the SR71. I will share a different tidbit. I once flew with the commander of the last HABU squadron at Beal. This was a 3 day trip we did together where I got to share the cockpit with a guy who knew everything about the SR. As a buff I got to pick his brain - here are a few things he told me: - Very temperature sensitive. A temperature forecast that was 5 degrees off - could mean a difference in 10K fuel. - Would take off - maintain 450KIAS in the climb until getting to critical Mach and EAS. Passing about about 60K feet - the airspeed would bleed off until it was in the in the 410-420KIAS range which in the high 70's/low80's works out to be be 3.2M. - The aircraft was temperature limited not airspeed limited. The aircraft got stronger and more efficient as speed increased - but the aircraft structure and engine inlets could not handle the heat. It would still be accelerating strong and they would have to pull it back at 3.2. I asked him how fast it would go if there were no temp limit - he said "Don't know - definitely 3.5 - maybe 4 - but they plane would melt before you got there". He did say - that during the Lybia raid - they got shot at by a large SAM - pushed it up - and he guessed they were doing over 3.3M when they pulled it back after defeating the missile. - Stable airplane - flew nice - but you had to plan everything so as not to overshoot - or get down early and burn too much gas. - He used to heat his Lean Cuisine by putting it on the glare shield under the window. Said that was about 450F. Perfect oven. - Biggest emergency would be an "Unstart". If it happened at altitude would be an automatic ejection and probable death. - Overall said it was a fantastic experience. Best part was the quality of the guys in the program.
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