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  1. yep i get about
    CPU AMD 5950x 5.0hrz: 4% to 7%  
    Ram Gskill 64g 3200hrz 2.7% 
    pegged Rog strix TI/OC/WE 3090ti: 100% 
    this is not optimized yet and CPU as well as RAM and M.2/HDD/SSD drive is no joke Null. 

    Side note: 
    Network from KSP2 has sent out 17.5gb of data over the NET (odd) more then discord and i stream and chat on it none stop haha and also more then Steam 

    out of all the years of playing and making videogames i have NEVER see a game  just run pure GPU only. :valwink::valjoy:

  2. 15 hours ago, MehJeb said:

    You can configure any of your capture software be it Nvidia (how they call shadowplay these days?) or OBS to target exactly the the Window (go learn what a window in Windows is! now! go!) one needs to "capture".  For example, for OBS you can configure to capture required window like this:

    obs_set.jpg

     

    Says Nvidia  asking for permission to allow it to record desktop because it does not see the game as a game but as a program and is somehow not a bug? [snip]


    Screenshot-2023-03-21-102742.png

  3. 12 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

    What's the difference?

    if u run the game  from steam right click "properties" and in side the General tab you'll see "Launch Options"  below that u put in " -popupwindow " this makes window mode true borderless and does not stretch the game to fullscreen so u can have any size u want on screen. 

    because i run this on my TV i do not need full 55" of it lol while  my native res is 3840x2160 i set  ALL OF MY GAMES to 3840x1620 borderless and move them to the top of the TV, thus having room down below for other apps 

     

    3 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

    I'm pretty sure my vids don't have black bars.

    thats because its fitting to your screen silly no matter what res u pick borderless will always stretch it to fit your screen. most borderless in other game does not do this they  fill up the screen to what ever res you have given it. but KSP2 stretches to always be fullscreen. 

    5 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

    Q: in other games, if you're playing in a half-screen window, does the software record the game as if it were fullscreen?

    it records only the game because Nvidia is seeing it as a game and not a program

  4. 11 minutes ago, Socraticat said:

    I seem to be able to find a few resources that do say that OBS does support HDR. 

    One here: How To Record HDR Content Using OBS Studio (streamershaven.blog)

     

    I'm sorry I can't be of more help. I'll be following to see if you resolve this. I'm interested and might learn something.

    yeah i updated my post. like yes OBS can do HDR and u might even have more controls over it with LUT's... i just prefer Nvidia cuz of the quality it can bring.

    1 minute ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

    I'm running windows borderless - game is in fullscreen.  I just hit Alt+F9 and Nvidia starts recording.  Only seems to be recording the game... but I'm quite new at this.  My vids only show what I see on the screen, which is the game.

    It could be recording desktop - don't know.

    What's the difference?

     

    its not real borderless... choose any res and it send it into fullscreen  stretching it thus u can end up with black bars not the window size....

     turn on privacy settings for Nvidia Alt -Z prevents Nvidia from recording windows 10/11 things and notifications.  so its not SEEing the game as a game but rather a program. and thus it wants me to turn OFF privacy settings. But again if  I do this all my desktop icons will show up in the video. because i do not run the game fullscreen as in, it does not fit my screen it fits half of it while the lower half is other programs and apps easy enough to tab in and out. But again Nvidia does not see the game but rather seeing it as a program...

  5. 5 minutes ago, Socraticat said:

    I use OBS. I can tell it to record only the windows I ask. Beyond that, I use Blender to edit out sections I don't want to publish.

    i use OBS for streams not recording cuz the quality is worse as well it does not support HDR as well, i use Nvidia for recording and no edits after pure file gets uploaded.

    edit: while it can do HDR its not worth it. Nvidia is just overall better with its encoder 

  6. all recording software can and will record this is fine but there is a fault within  how its depicting game window.

    Nvidia has a privacy setting to enable the user if they wish to record desktop or not. The game will not record and it will end up record my desktop as well as the game. The problem is i do not want to record my desktop therefore there is a bug where i can't record without  it prompting me to record my desktop. 

    side note:
    fullscreen, borderless, window all ask for permission to record desktop. ( i do not) 
    side side note: 
    if i go into the BOOT file and change (wait-for-native-debugger= from a 0 to a 1) and apply this im able to record fullscreen without it asking to record desktop.  but all other modes this does not help  borderless or window and keeps asking to record desktop while i do not want to

    conclusion:
    the whole windows game setup for the game itself is wrong or bad or cheap and should be addressed.

    what i want:
    to be able to record the game in all types of resolutions  with borderless or window mode enabled  without recording my desktop or prompting to ask permission to record desktop   

  7. 15 hours ago, Superfluous J said:

    Weird, I don't know what to tell you - mostly because I still don't have KSP2. In KSP1 and every other Unity game I've tried it in though -popupwindow just removes the border from windowed mode, so if the height and width are less than fullscreen you can see what is behind the window. If that doesn't happen for you then I've got nothing :(

    yep it seems that way.  even tho u can do this popupwindow command there is still a problem with this.  with both window mode and borderless mode.  all recording software records the whole desktop and does not see  the game as a game. or program.  like Nvidia recording has a setting to prevent the software from recording the desktop. while this so called GAME.. is in borderless more or window mode u can not record unless u grant Nvidia to also record the desktop and this is the biggest problem. 

    what ever they did was done so badly or cheaply that it does not act as a running program once in borderless/windowed modes

    Even fullscreen had a problem of it not wanting to record till i changed a single setting in one of the files. under (KSP2_x64_Data folder Config boot) funny enough changing (wait-for-native-debugger=0 from a 0 to a 1) some how fixed it to where now fullscreen will record the game while in fullscreen and will no longer ask you to allow it to record desktop. strange i know. 

    ITS ALL OUT OF WHACK!!!

    so now i have to make a NEW post. trying to get the game to RECORD without asking permission to record my desktop... 

  8. 19 minutes ago, Superfluous J said:

    In addition to -popupwindow, you can set the screen width and height, but I don't see a switch to set the x and y coordinate of the screen. All the commands available are on this page here: https://docs.unity3d.com/2019.4/Documentation/Manual/PlayerCommandLineArguments.html

    This will make your window old skool vga sized:

    -popupwindow -screen-width 640 -screen-height 480

    To move the window, you may be able to use a utility such as those listed on this page here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7977322/set-window-position-of-an-application-on-windows-command-line

    i'v done this no matter what trick i do.   borderless mode is always fullscreen and just adds black bars. i already know how to move the window  i have tools for that. 

    the messed up part is i don't think anyone can fix this problem its all on them
     

     

  9. On 3/8/2023 at 12:07 PM, LoSBoL said:

    With the old versions of unity games you could try starting the game with the startoption;

    '-popopwindow' 

    1k0.jpg

     

    I've used that to span KSP1 borderless window over three screens. (no need for this anymore since I got a 32:9 monitor.) 

    If that doesn't work anymore maybe a Google search on borderless window Unity to check if there have changed startupoptions. 

    this does not work.. 
     

    im after making the window not fullscreen stated in this post here ^

  10. 4 hours ago, TiggerTailz said:

    I set KSP2 so it is windowed mode 2560x14404 or 1920x1080 and Borderless Gaming sets it full screen borderless. There are no sidebars since its it matches my display resolution aspect ratio.

    thats the biggest problem i run this on my (LG A1 55 inch Class 4K Smart OLED TV) i dont want the game to go fullscreen because i leave up other programs on screen. like OBS/chat or other programs music or anything else. The game regardless of what tool you use  it goes FULLSCREEN  i have other tools that allows me to move around borderless windows  so i can move the game on top of the TV while leaving space below  for other apps. But the problem is the borderless mode goes fullscreen. 

    there are other games i have played once u put a game in borderless mode u can set a custom res you want. It will only be that size it does not go fullscreen.
    I use a TV screen acting as if its more then one screen by placing  apps into windows frames.  while i have a 2nd pc to run other apps its cheaper to run just one screen. i'v asked the Devs about changing this but sadly no response. so from the start i have been fighting the game  borderless mode and trying to find a way to STOP it from going FULLSCREEN.. but no luck 

    Native Resolution : 3840x2160
    what i want 
    Custom Resolution : 3840x1620
    Making the screen ultrawide but moving it to the top of the screen to have programs down below while able to click in and out of the game on the fly but again i can't do this because they locked it to fullscreen. Only making it bad for streamers and multitaskers.
     

  11. 9 hours ago, LoSBoL said:

    Two things you can try to play with, setting a custom resolution by playing with the settings.json file. KSP2 like KSP seems to be very forgiving if you want to run it in ackward resolutions. 

    Second thing you can try is to force this unity game to use borderless windows by using a command line argument. 

    See below two links which might help you

     

    https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Kerbal_Space_Program_2

     

    yes u can set a custom res but borderless still goes Fullscreen, meaning it gives black bars 
    i already tested Steam configs as well other config to try and force it to be borderless without it being fullscreen. None have worked its still acts as fullscreen even if its set to borderless. on top of all this BS with how they have it setup is  Nvidia can't record the game while in window mode or borderless mode without it asking to record desktop as well. 
    so there is 3 big problems how they have this setup
    1, its not good for streamers  because you cant set custom res without the game being locked to fullscreen unless u play in window mode wish is stupid cuz now u have to edit OBS window to cut off the borders
    2 borderless mode locks to fit screen when you dont want it to
    3 Nvidia privet settings  does not see the game while in window/borderless mode and forces you to record desktop when you don't want it to...

    On 3/16/2023 at 5:25 PM, TiggerTailz said:

    I was having the same issue and someone on the Discord pointed me to a utility called. "Borderless Gaming" You can purchase on Steam or D/L free from GitHub. https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming

    I run dual monitors and this utility scales windowed mode to full screen borderless. I'm now able to mouse back and forth between monitors without KSP2 minimizing. Not sure if this will help on Linux but there is a source tar.gz on the GitHub so you can try compiling. 

    when u make a smaller window does it show black bars? or does it show your background of the desktop?

  12. 1 hour ago, Cpt Kerbalkrunch said:

    If this thread has been truthful (which I'm not entirely convinced of), then he already knows there's a serious cooling issue. He says he has a 3090ti that needs its own AC. I have a 3080ti and I run at 4k, all settings on highest. GPU always runs at 99%, but never gets over mid-60's Celsius (not sure what that is in real temperature :)). Loaded the game on my laptop as well. It's 3 years old, but a 12 pound behemoth with a 2080 Super desktop GPU. Again, all settings on high (at 1080p, of course), GPU runs at 99% without ever exceeding 70 Celsius. Granted, the fans are as loud as the rockets, but it keeps cool.

    I'm sure you already know there's something weird about this. If your high-end rig can't keep cool, you screwed up the build (or you bought Alienware :D).


    if u kept reading u would of seen the line 
    while my PC seems safe enough with its Temps. it might not be for everyone so take my input with a big grain of salt and happy gaming..
    and
    good luck because you'll need it while it melts your GPU
    keyword here "your" not mine lol its as if no one knows what sarcasm is anymore haha 
    now why would i make such a claim?


     1, check computers cuz some people just don't clean haha
    2, its always wise to check every few months :valwink:
    3 wouldn't it be so kind as if someone warned them ahead of time before processing buying or playing this game? give them a warning that this game is GPU dependent and will peg your GPU to 100% load? (no matter the card) wouldn't this be a nice thing to know? 

    Also i didn't know Dell was still making Alienware haha (sarcasm) would not matter of the brand name anyways cuz everyone gets the same chips from only a few companies so its best to follow the chipsets rather then brands haha (cuz we smarter) 
    this is why i got the 
    White Edition 3090ti Rog Strix Oc cuz it has the better chips for power draw and much more. didn't care for the ring u get or  the top corner plate i only cared it was white as well best chips for its price point. didn't care for the brand name cuz again that be silly to follow brands and logos. oh and almost forgot i also got this one cuz i plan on doing SLI for it so im getting a 2nd one here shortly yay me.

    anyways, good luck be safe have fun....:valwink::valjoy: 

  13. 1 minute ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    What are you doing while the GPU is at 100%

    menu 

    2 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    What do you even mean by RAM under load? Are you going to show us a hard drive with 90% free space on the disk and include your HD is also under no load? O_o

    Ram and CPU not not being utilized only GPU. thats like making a BET on a horse race where all you did was put all your eggs in one basket. never a wise choice...

     

    4 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    If your GPU melts, that's a bad GPU. Plain and simple

    keyword here was (your) not mine 

     

    4 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    First off, why does the temperature outside matter? It could be -100 outside but if your room is still room temperature that's the only environment the computer knows. Secondly, blowing an AC unit directly on your board is dangerous as that can make parts of your build sub-ambient meaning it can have condensation form on it, which needless to say, is bad.

    why would u keep a window open in winter? frostbite anyone? have you lived in a room that is -24 to 40C in the dead of winter and summer and your only form of heat is the computer/AC running and when that computer overheats and u need an AC unit to keep it cool. and stable and then people think its hardware when i own more then 4pc in 2 room with the same specs. its somehow my hardware. HAHAHA... The AC flows OVER the case not over the board (been doing this for 25plus years no problems with all kinds of hardware. For the most part its about keeping the AIO cooled not the pc its self. while these temps are fine i can't say the same for others.  

     

    16 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    Understood, your CPU is bottlenecked. What situation are you in when this happens and what settings are you on?

    did u just say a 5950x is bottlenecked to a 3090tioc lol what this made me laugh. Clearly the game is not even using the CPU it was built mostly using GPU and thats it. even Nate Simpson the creative director KSP2  said its GPU dependent they no joke put all the load under GPU witch boggles my mind. no settings in game or out of game change or effect the outcome of the load.

     

    21 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    Again, what?

    again this game is GPU dependent  the game was only using 2.7% of my ram and 4% to 6% CPU load which means its poorly optimized and as of right now 98% of the resources used is GPU load for the time being. nothing i can do or say will change this unless they optimize the game better and even the load to put other parts of the computer under load.

     

    27 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    Can you show us  what is on screen?

    as you can see the black part of the photo was the game.  if i could show you what i was looking at, i would love to but all my forms of taking screenshots take black photos oddly enough. and if i was to take video well then  everything will change  cuz now im putting the system underload recording. 

     

    30 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    PC's are not dangerous... you know what Tj max is, right?

    yeah we went to high school together. 

     

    31 minutes ago, mcwaffles2003 said:

    Have you tried turning down the graphics yet? Maybe then your computer would be less bottlenecked...

    no setting in game will change any of this i find this to be funny u think there is a bottleneck haha  anyways (dies laughing) ANYWAYS!!!! holds laugher back.... no settings in game change anything. FPS is still the same and the load for everything is still the same.  giggles..

  14. 1 minute ago, Kerbart said:

    I think what he's trying to say is that while 70°C is a high temperature, it is in the working range of your GPU. I would follow Joe's advice, something is seriously wrong if your hardware it's struggling and given that most of the commenters here don't recognize your symptoms in their computer, it's not unreasonable to suggest that, one way or another, your hardware has issues.

    Cooling efficiency depends on temperature gradients and if a GPU is running at 120° (you're describing melting so I assume it's way over the 80° it can handle just fine) that gradient is already quite large and lowering your room temperature isn't really doing anything. If it is, something is seriously wrong with the airflow in your PC case, even when it's open.

    For what it's worth, my 10 year old $1200 hardware (which includes a recent GPU upgrade) absolutely runs fine without any thermal issues when running the game, and yes, I checked, it was one of the first things I did.

    I'm not saying you don't have problems, clearly you do, but consider the option that it's not the software, but rather the hardware setup somehow unable to cope with the demands, as it seems to be an isolated case.

     

    5 minutes ago, sumeee said:

    It's clearly a hardware problem and you have to investigate and figure out what can you do to fix it. You should be able to run your rig at 100% GPU & CPU all the time at over 30°C room temp without any issues.

    Do a Google search or post on some hardware forums (as JoeSchmuckatelli suggest) and figure out what issue you have with your graphics card.

    its as if u never read the whole thing. ROFL

  15. 21 minutes ago, The Aziz said:

    What temp is your GPU? 70? It's way below overheating. If your pc shuts down at GPU reaching 80, you have other problems. And if you're so worried, get a MSI afterburner, set a temp limit and never worry again.

    Meanwhile, I enjoy the warmth coming from my PC, very pleasant in cold winter months.

    haha why would i need another program when i can do all of the temp curves in the bios haha silly boy tricks are for kids.  the failsafe i set was from 90c and 100c from the bios the fact my GPU was reaching this twice and then i put the AC unit in the window in the dead of winter haha while its SNOWING outside are u kidding me.
    this game runs my GPU so hot that it puts other games even CP2077 to shame. i even had to lock the 1,000plus FPS i was getting to a stable 75 to be safe. WHILE IN THE MENU. there SHOULD be a FPS cap for the menu 
    CP2077 burnt up cards in the menu
    New World brunt up cards while in the menu luckly they patched it a day of the reports. 
    and now this game menu has NO CAP of FPS  unless u roll V-sync or Free-sync. as well setting a FPS cap to your card. But we know people love high FPS numbers so they OP'ed out having these on 

    DAY ONE PATCH should of locked FPS while in menu and it didn't so again i leave you with another Grain Of Salt  "play at your own risk"  

  16. 8 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said:

    Interesting.

    I'm running a 3070 pushing 4k.  My GPU is getting between 50 c and 75c depending on what I'm doing, and I keep the game up and running for quite a while.  Air cooled, but a well-ventilated box.  Just sitting in an ambient air room, no special AC setup (probably 68 degrees).

    OTOH I am getting 100% GPU during low altitude stuff.

    But these GPUs should be fine at those temperatures.  Not uncommon for these 3000 series cards to get above 80 - and I don't think they even start throttling until 85 or so.

    ...

    I'm mostly recommending people to not play if they just want to play.  If they enjoy the Alpha/Beta experience and want to help identify bugs... I'd still probably recommend waiting for the next patch - although this one changed the game considerably.

     

    4 hours ago, The Aziz said:

    Modern nvidia GPUs sit comfortable even at just above 80⁰c.

     

    1 hour ago, MechBFP said:

    GPUs are meant to run at 100% and are designed to run hot. If they get too hot because of something like the users computer is dirty and clogged with dirt/hair they will automatically throttle anyway.

    It’s not a problem. 

     

    57 minutes ago, sumeee said:

    Modern CPU/Graphics Cards are design to run at full power, although full power is relative and it depends on the available power and cooling.

    On the other hand, full power and 100% utilization it's not the same thing. When a tool is stating that the GPU/CPU utilization is at 100% it's just tells you that component is not waiting for anything to do it's work. So if for example the GPU utilization is at 50% is just means that the GPU works 50% of the time at full blast and waits 50% of the time, it doesn't mean that the GPU works 100% of the time at 50% power.

    so while ice is freezing outside and i have to run an window AC next to the computer just to get stable numbers and not  have the PC shut down on me from overheating. You think this is safe? haha these temps here are only because i have a window AC running over the computer case cuz its an OPEN type.  I put the Case in my spec sheet for a reason. If your computer shuts down from overheating while playing any game its a failsafe to protect your devices. While my CPU roughly sits around 27c to 35c the GPU was pegging well over its limit and thus the $6,500plus  computer build was shutting down. Now i'm not stating that everyone setup runs normal or cooler. the fact i have to have an AC unit blowing on a OPEN style pc without it overheating on JUST this GAME,  Is saying something.....

    the key point here is, water freezes outside and i need to have a freaking AC unit running in WINTER wearing a freaking coat in my room just to keep the computer stable and u think this is nominal haha this makes me laugh.

  17. while the GPU is pegged at 100% load and no load at all under RAM or CPU its putting a strain on just the GPU and could quite possibly over heat.  So if u plan on playing this game i recommend these checks before proceeding.
    1, clean the computer 
    2, well ventilated room
    3, put computer within the coldest room or basement 
    4, good luck because you'll need it while it melts your GPU
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    mine stayed cool enough because it has an AC unit blowing on it while its -5C/23F outside 16C/61F in house  under load it was reaching 70C / 158F way higher if i didn't have a cold room. So keeping a cool room will keep the temps at bay so highly recommend a cool place to play haha
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    CPU load  range from 4% to 6%
    Ram load 2.7%
    Ethernet seems it sends out data..........
    GPU load mostly 100% while not much is being shown or on screen.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Screenshot-2023-03-17-235549.png
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    while my PC seems safe enough with its Temps. it might not be for everyone so take my input with a big grain of salt and happy gaming..
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    PC spec
    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X,
    ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090TI OC White Edition 24g,
    G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 64GB 2x DDR4 3200,
    MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX AM4,
    Seasonic Px-1300watts 80plus Platinum,
    RAIJINTEK PAEAN ATX Case,
    LG A1 55 inch Class 4K Smart OLED TV,
    Audio
    Line 6 POD Studio UX2,
    Akai RPM800 Active Studio Monitors,

    crying when it only uses 5% to 10% of my computers resources... 
    need to get that train going from Dumbo that song as its ascends up the hill "i think i can i think i can"

  18. 48 minutes ago, Nate Simpson said:

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    Patch One is out, and players have been putting it through its paces for a whole day now! We’ve still got plenty of work to do, but the overall takeaway seems to be that the game has seen some big performance and feature improvements. It has been especially nice to see that even "small" gains are appreciated by our players - rest assured that the devs who work on those features are reading your comments and feeling the love. Our team will soak up all these good community vibes and use them to power us toward Patch Two, which will contain even more optimizations and improvements. Your feedback and bug reports have been invaluable in helping us to determine the frequency and severity of ongoing issues, and that information informs our production priorities going forward.

    Performance improvements and bug fixes will continue to take place alongside ongoing development of core features like re-entry heating, thermal systems, and other headline features on the Roadmap. As you can see, progress is being made:

     

    image.png

     

    We can’t yet predict which update will contain re-entry heating - for obvious reasons, we’re holding ourselves to a very high standard of performance. As soon as it’s doing everything we need it to do, in every situation in which it needs to do it, we’ll add re-entry to a future patch.

    In other news - if you haven’t seen any of the ExtraKerbicular Activities videos, you should check them out! Our Community Team has put a ton of work into creating bite-sized assets that go deeper into vehicle construction and piloting tips, and there's a new one about wings! They’re fun, they’re informative, and they make a great follow-up to the tutorials.

    Let's see, what else? Oh, next Friday, I'll be joining the Community Team to do my first AMA. You can submit your questions via this forum post or directly to Discord. On Friday morning I'll dig into the pile and do my best to answer as many as I can! 

    Last but not least, we’ve got another Weekly Challenge! This week we’re building Apollo recreations (though the stretch goals go a bit beyond that). Now that docking, decoupling, and fairings have calmed down a bit since Patch One, this is a great chance to start working on some more ambitious missions.

    Happy launching!
     

     

    oh no, the EFFECT is not following the true shape of the rocket mesh. a whole other mesh is applied over top the part to ACT as if its being hit by the ATMO. yeah im not a fan of this i like the older style better when it comes to the effect. While this here might be cheaper to run it makes me think that other code are cheaper as well. 
    cheaper does not always look better but it may help with performance. Though i do wish that my CPU 5950x uses more then 2% one day.. here is to hoping.  

    You know how the first trailer we see how one of the kerbals slips off the ladder? You remember that time where kerbals would always fall over or never land on their feet? Have you ever missed that feeling of the physics just taking control and Kerbals do Kerbal things and made us laugh? u ever remember that feeling???

    no matter what i do. i can not knock over a kerbal i can not laugh over a kerbal falling off or slipping off an object or flop around as they fall off their seats and tumble around. The feeling just seems to be missing and i no joke cried so many times in laughter cuz how funny it was. But that feeling in KSP 2 was ripped away from my soul. 
    i want to feel that again...... 
     

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