UrstMcRedhead

Nope... Didn't know that we have moved those things into a setting. 0.5 Spring Strength, and 1.5 Damper Strength worked like a charm.

Yeah, but it looks like that feature was removed, because I can't adjust Spring Pressure, or Damper Strength in stock KSP.

Never mind. I got it to happen on eight smaller LT-1 Landing legs. EDIT: Using four LT-1's caused it to bounce off the pad shortly after physics kicked in. So I went in the opposite direction: I Used struts to make the side tanks more rigid, and put 2 LT-2 Legs on each tank, and the design was stable until it hit off center. If the rocket touches down on too few legs they bounce back harder and cause a crash. I think this is a bug:

I swapped out with the LT-1 legs, and recreated this issue. I also used twice as many of them because of clearance issues with the rocket. So I either could use the smaller legs with a narrower base, or use more of them, and have zero clearance between the feet, and the rockets. I've got a capture of it somewhere, but I didn't want to post 5-10 variations of the same 30sec thing in an hour. Also when researching this problem I found that 1.4 - 1.5 had the ability to change the damper values, and that lowering them solved this for some people. That's not the case anymore.

Haven't played for about 6 months, and wanted to get back into it. I noticed when making stock Stages with landing gear that it would bounce uncontrollably, and decided to test on an indestructible launch pad. This is repeatable with multiple types of legs, and the attached video shows that during an impact the legs cause the rocket to bounce back harder than the initial impact. The rocket then bounces higher, and lands harder eventually breaking components. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHrRW43y7WM I have managed to create scenarios where this doesn't happen, but I think the speed at impact was less than 5ms. Edit: I'm using 1.7.3 in Linux with no mods.

I just tried out the 1.1.1 update, and it still has all of the same problems.

It almost worked, but the screen resolution keeps automatically setting itself to a random two digit, by 2-4 digit resolution. (i.e. 1920x27). After doing some testing I found that this happens when I try to drag the window from my secondary monitor to my primary monitor, and that I have to manually edit prefs to fix this. I also had an issue with the ground disappearing when I tried to launch from the VAB for the one instance that didn't get the resolution reset error.

No luck. Since it was an upgrade from a previous version my prefs file already had all of those fields except the last one auto-filled in. I tried messing with the settings, and eventually copy/pasting your sample into the file. Also I took a look at the player.log, and spotted a lot of GL_ARB, unsupported shader, and other errors. Heres a snippet of the log: ############################ ############################ ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/~~~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored. Stacktrace: Native stacktrace: /home/~~~/Games/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/Mono/x86/libmono.so(+0x8960f) [0xf57b960f] /home/~~~/Games/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/Mono/x86/libmono.so(+0x21a63) [0xf5751a63] [0xf7717cc0] /home/~~~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6(XQueryExtension+0x1b) [0xf7494b0b] /home/~~~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6(XInitExtension+0x4c) [0xf748889c] /home/~~~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6(XextAddDisplay+0x54) [0xf71348e4] /usr/lib32/fglrx/libGL.so.1(+0x3d6c3) [0xf75dd6c3] Debug info from gdb: ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/~~~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored. Could not attach to process. If your uid matches the uid of the target process, check the setting of /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope, or try again as the root user. For more details, see /etc/sysctl.d/10-ptrace.conf ptrace: Operation not permitted. No threads. ================================================================= Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. 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Using PulseAudio: Default Output Device Begin MonoManager ReloadAssembly ... Snip Harmless ... - Completed reload, in 0.058 seconds Default vsync count 0 requesting resize 1914 x 1053 Selecting FBConfig GLX_FBCONFIG_ID=43 GLX_BUFFER_SIZE=32 GLX_DOUBLEBUFFER=1 GLX_RED_SIZE=8 GLX_GREEN_SIZE=8 GLX_BLUE_SIZE=8 GLX_ALPHA_SIZE=8 GLX_DEPTH_SIZE=24 GLX_STENCIL_SIZE=8 GLX_SAMPLES_ARB=2 GLX_SAMPLE_BUFFERS_ARB=1 GLX_CONFIG_CAVEAT=NONE resizing window to 1914 x 1053 Desktop is 3840 x 1200 @ 60 Hz GLContext: failed to activate 0xb876cd0 GLContext: failed to activate 0xb876cd0 Using libudev for joystick management Importing game controller configs #... #Snip Harmless #... The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! (Filename: Line: 1649) The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! (Filename: Line: 1649) The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! (Filename: Line: 1649) The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! (Filename: Line: 1649) The referenced script on this Behaviour is missing! 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WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'KSP/Scenery/Diffuse' - Pass 'META' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Terrain/PQS/Sphere Projection SURFACE QUAD (Fallback) ' - Pass 'PREPASS' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Standard' - Pass 'META' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Standard' - Pass 'META' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Terrain/PQS/Ocean Surface Quad' - Pass 'PREPASS' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Terrain/PQS/Ocean Surface Quad' - Pass 'META' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Legacy Shaders/Bumped Diffuse' - Pass 'PREPASS' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Legacy Shaders/Bumped Diffuse' - Pass 'META' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Hidden/GlobalFog' - Pass '' has no vertex shader #... #Snip Errors #... WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Terrain/Scaled Planet (Simple)' - Pass 'PREPASS' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Terrain/Scaled Planet (Simple)' - Pass 'META' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Hidden/Blend' - Pass '' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Hidden/Blend' - Setting to default shader. Shader 'AtmosphereFromGround': fallback shader 'None' not found WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'AtmosphereFromGround' - Pass '' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'AtmosphereFromGround' - Setting to default shader. WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Hidden/EdgeDetectNormalsHQ' - Pass '' has no vertex shader WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Hidden/EdgeDetectNormalsHQ' - Setting to default shader. #... #Snip Errors #a... WARNING: Shader Unsupported: 'Hidden/RecordCenterDepth' - Setting to default shader. 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[KSP Version]: 1.1.0.1230 (LinuxPlayer) ==================================== (Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 64) [Input Devices]: (Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 64) [Input Devices]: (Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 64) Launcher Settings File exists (Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 64) Launcher disabled? False (Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 64) Launcher after checking file: False (Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 64) ******* Log Initiated for Kerbal Space Program - 1.1.0.1230 (LinuxPlayer) ******* (Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 64)

The new 1.1 version of KSP insta-crashes at the beginning of the loading screen, and this is what the log shows. --- Kerbal Space Program - 1.1.0.1230 (LinuxPlayer) OS: Linux 3.19 LinuxMint 17.3 64bit CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor (8) RAM: 7969 GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series (2722MB) SM: 30 (OpenGL 4.5 [4.5.13399 Compatibility Profile Context 15.201.1151]) RT Formats: ARGB32, Depth, ARGBHalf, Shadowmap, RGB565, ARGB4444, ARGB1555, Default, ARGB2101010, DefaultHDR, ARGBFloat, RGFloat, RGHalf, RFloat, RHalf, R8 Log started: Tue, Apr 19, 2016 16:30:02 --- It cuts off after that. I've tested this on 32/64bit versions for both Steam, and the non-Steam versions, and I get the same crash without loading anything.

It's been a while since I did anything, and got 124/151 on my second try without any mods. Shown here: https://youtu.be/bCLUQNQAvvM

Yes, but he may slide for 200-500 meters before comming to a stop.

I just had to do this over because Pitivi Video editor refused to compile the complete video. And that also means that I had to quickload and do the whole thing over. Unfortunately my last quicksave was for the recovery drop; so I'm going to do this again backwards. Heres the first video:

The challenge requires a main rocket in Munar orbit to tow the lander and resupply Your EVA mono propellant, but yes it's possible to do both. Sorry if I didn't make that clear in the summary. I'll try editing that in right now.

After trying out DrMonte's Extreme EVA challenge about two times I noticed that I was starting to accumulate a lot of abandoned landers. So that gave me an idea for a newer challenge. Here are the steps: Send a lander to the Mun with a larger recovery rocket. EVA from the lander to orbit, and rendezvous with your main space craft; then hop in and replenish your vital EVA fluids (Mono-propellant). EVA back to your lander, on the surface, and take it back into orbit for recovery. Restrictions, & caveats: No mods which help you plan or optimize your orbits, or maneuvers. No Cheats or mods that increase thrust, ISP or contained fuel for rockets/kerbenauts. I really don't care if you use any particular mods, or parts packs as long as they don't take away from the difficulty of the challenge. PROOF Is here! In the form of short videos Sorry for the lack of sound.

Ok so it only took two quickloads but I did it. I also had a few hiccups. The lander couldn't generate power, and TACLife really wanted to kill Jeb. Every part of this mission was stock except for FAR, TacLife, Deadly Reentry, and ProcFairings.