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Hey thanks, that does look like what I'm looking for, the behaviour he's describing is exactly what I see when I turn scrolling on! The short version is they don't interact at all, and you will get the science KCT adds without Bureaucracy interfering. Mods using the experiment system fall into Bureaucracy's remit, mods using AddScience (as KCT does) do not, because the only thing we can safely say about that situation is the mod, for whatever reason, is choosing to bypass the experiment system. The log should be able to tell you that. With Bureaucracy you'll see lines that say things like: [Bureaucracy]: <ScienceSubject> completed. Adding <experiment worth> science" I'd be surprised if KCT doesn't log it too.

I'm not a part modder (I write plugins) - but as you quoted me, I'll say what little I know. Isn't it just a case of making the part as you did with the engine/fuel tank and add ModuleCommand to it in the cfg file?

Depends very much on what sort of mod you are trying to make, but based on your comments about blender - I'll assume parts: Beale's tutorial is pretty much the gold standard: Alternatively, if you are looking to write a plugin: The only thing I'll say for the plugin one - is that it will tell you to use .Net 3.5 - that's outdated information, use 4.x instead.

Known issue, I haven't figured out how to make the scroll list scroll. It's just a visual bug

No worries, you definitely didn't come off as pushy. The frustration came from my end, as you were reporting issues that I was unable to reproduce - which makes it difficult to fix Thank you for confirming the fix, I'll put it in the 1.4 release

Just checked the code, the vessels met has to be above 0 to get credit. This usually happens when the vessel gets moving.

Sorry, ignore me. I'm remembering wrong. They have to leave the pad, atmospheric flights will give them credit. What they don't get credit for is world firsts completed before they have been to orbit (otherwise you'd get like 12 for almost free at the beginning of the game)

Ah yes, it only starts counting when a Kerbal gets to orbit, and only if they actually leave the pad.

sigh thank you - I've tested my end and can confirm it's working so must be a mod conflict (I can see it's not working from your log but it's working here). Can you test in a new save, and make sure that it's not just your save that was messed up from the original bug. If it's still not working in a new save (and you still want help with it), you'll need to do the 50/50 method - ie keep half your mods (and their dependencies) until you track down the minimum mods I need to install to reproduce (keep ResearchBodies and Bureaucracy in each time).

Getting a 404 - can't see it.

KSP.log or Player.log (I personally slightly prefer KSP.log and it's easier to get to as it's in the root game directory), but either will do)

Has she done a World First (or have you turned that off)? That's on by default. If you're sure she should be, send her on a flight, recover her and throw me a log (don't recover from the pad, FlightTracker ignores kerbals that do that).

On recovery. The recovery dialog will show them in the white suits still (it's just a timing thing) - but if you go into the astronaut complex after dismissing the recovery dialog they will have the orange suits.

Could you try this build and see if it fixes your issue before I release. Bleeding edge build, back up your saves etc (should be fine, but it's late, and I've been known to balls up worse than this before XD) Things I need testing: 1) Does it clear the "Can't find the facility" issue (my testing says yes, but I tested on a minimal install, so throw your mods at it and see what happens) 2) Does it remember your upgrade between scene switches 3) Does the upgrade actually complete. I'm fully expecting the answer to all those questions to be yes, because the actual internal structure of how the upgrades happen hasn't changed at all. For those of you interested in the technical details, see spoiler:

Thank you - I am about to start work, but will look at it this evening. I was going to release 1.4 today, so if I can get a fix in for this too I will do.

If in doubt always provide the full log No worries though, if it was a problem just in Bureaucracy what you gave me would absolutely have been enough to diagnose it. I know the exact point my code is falling down, but my code isn't the problem (and to be clear - ResearchBodies (or whatever) isn't bugging out either from the information I have). From the sounds of it, it's just a case of Bureaucracy doing it's setup before ResearchBodies (or whatever) has finished doing it's.

I don't mean to be awkward about this, but I really do need the full log. Upload it to dropbox or another file sharing site and send me the link. What you've given me gives me a start, it tells me that at the point Bureaucracy sets up the Facilities the observatory isn't in the list. What it doesn't tell me, is what mod is causing the issue (ResearchBodies I suspect), when the Observatory is added (in relation to Bureaucracy loading) or what I can do about it. With a log, I can dig through the load order and find the salient code in the offending mod and try to workaround it.

Ill need the log, so I can see exactly where is falling over

That is the reason yes - there is no difference between the EVA suits for vets/regular kerbals, it's the IVA/Flight suits that get affected. The SciFi suit happens to just be orange (which is why by default EYS uses it as a suit for vets)

This can be done with some save file editing. Turn "Strip existing honours" off and go into your save, find the "Big 4" and change the Veteran flag to false. Edit: I'll take your feature request though - it is possible to differentiate the Big 4 in the code, I can probably add that in. Raised #3

If you have "strip existing honours" turned on, I would expect it to strip the veteranhood from them. "Veteran" is just a boolean that's set in the ProtoCrewMember (which is the internal name for a Kerbal) - Earn Your Stripes won't care if it's from a mod, a ProtoCrewMember is a ProtoCrewMember.

I forgot to include the patch - I need to do another fix anyway, so will include it with the next release

KCT you just need to choose whether to let Bureaucracy for KCT handle your facility upgrades, and turn it off for the one that you don't want to use. Additional launch locations should be fine - Bureaucracy doesn't touch launch code at all, and I'm currently using it in JNSQ with Kerbal Konstructs with no issues.

Update to 1.3. I fixed that a while ago (yes I know 1.3 is marked as 1.9 only, but it works fine. I'm using it in 1.8.1 as I type this).

Hotfix Incoming! Exploration 2.0.1 Released Don't offer contracts to land on the Homeworld. Return from Orbit contracts should actually check you've orbited, and not landed on the body.