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  1. (WIP image) Shuttle Orbiter Construction Kit Today, being Yuri's Night and the anniversary of the first orbital mission of the Space Shuttle program, STS-1, felt like a good time to reveal what I've been working on lately: a pack of parts designed to replicate the US Space Shuttle Orbiter in a stockalike style. The stock mk3 parts, while excellent, are off in a number of ways in terms of proportions and performance when compared to the real space shuttle orbiters, and building a working space shuttle can be quite a challenge due to aerodynamics, thrust balance and a host of different reasons. This mod aims to do the following: Shuttle Orbiter System scaled to Kerbal sizes in a stockalike/restock-alike art style Payload bay sized for 2.5m payloads Performance appropriate for a shuttle in a 2.5x game (many mods, including reDIRECT and BDB, follow this principle) Easy construction with snap-together parts (all node-attached, no fiddling with surface attachment) Launcher agnostic (i.e. you can use parts from a number of mods or from stock in order to build the launch stack) Easy to fly with sensible aerodynamic properties Fully interactive, immersive IVA powered by 3rd party mods Low part count both in terms of editor clutter and in flight. Mirrored parts (such as wings) will be handled using mesh/texture switching Integration with reDIRECT launch vehicle parts (this will involve texture tweaks to the reDIRECT parts to bring them up to standard) So far, the shuttle is reasonably far along in texturing, but very far form functional in game. Many parts, such as landing gear, are not implemented at all yet, and others have very rudimentary textures or lack colliders, aerodynamics. This is by no means going to be an easy or quick task, so I wouldn't expect a release any time soon. To celebrate the anniversary of Columbia's first flight, please enjoy some of the screenshots below featuring a heavily WIP orbiter and parts from my reDIRECT mod. The shuttle features 15 switchable name slots, six based on the real flight-worthy orbiters, four based on test articles and mockups produced for the program, and five slots for custom names added by the user. In terms of size, the shuttle cockpit works out at slightly smaller but longer than the mk3 pod, and payload bay is longer but smaller in diameter. Happy to answer any questions you may have and take suggestions!
  2. Flat-Bottom Shuttle Systems is a modular parts pack which allows you to build flat-bottom space planes! These parts have a triangular cross-section of 2.5m and, due to the flat bottom, provide some lift. Please note, the RasterPropMonitor mod is required for the IVAs and will have to be downloaded separately. Comments and feedback are appreciated. Updated: 3/17/2019 The latest update includes surface-attachable wings, added adapters for Mk2, Mk2.5 and Mk3, and new engine mounting plates. Now uses B9 Part Switch. Download from: SpaceDock Required: RasterPropMonitor Parts List: Sample Images: Cross-section Specifications: Please note this mod is still a work in progress. Next Update:
  3. Hello everyone, It's Trekkie148 here, I'm just wondering on how to make my space shuttle stable, get to orbit, rendezvous, docking with an object, maybe mun orbit, and mostly mk2 and mainly mk3. I am using the mod Kerbal Engineer Redux and for visual Planet Shine to see the ship from the dark side of a celestial body. When ever I make a orbiter that looks like and supposed to act like the NASA space shuttle and I also empty out the tanks of the orbiter and put on the CoM and CoL indicators and sometimes CoT all standing for Center of Mass, Center of Lift, Center of Thrust, and I try to make the CoL closer to the CoM, I seriously do not know about what is happening what is happening with my design because it keeps on flipping my spacecraft either while landing or Reentry. This thread will be updated tomorrow on Thursday November 22 2018. Stay tuned, But do tend to give me help and reply. This helps out a lot. Thank you everyone. Also Happy Thanks Giving!
  4. Full Scale, Full Stock, Full Function On April 21, 1981, STS Columbia launched for the first time. Just as Yuri Gagarin’s first flight exactly 20 years earlier, Columbia opened up a new era of space flight. The Shuttle provided an unparalleled capability to service satellites in orbit, providing a flexible base of operations for seven astronauts for two weeks in low earth orbit. It is not too much of an exaggeration to say that without the shuttle we wouldn’t have Hubble, the ISS, and many, many scientific advancements. About the replica This craft began about five months ago, as I realized that I was rapidly approaching 100 craft uploads on KerbalX. I wanted something BIG to mark the milestone. This craft went through two major revisions, and countless minor revisions. Of note, this craft wouldn’t be where it is without the help of @HB Stratos who took my poorly made cargo bay and made it work 100% of the time. Additionally, this craft deserved a proper craft video. I'm really proud of it, give it a watch: Flight Manual Launch Orbital and Payload Operations Reentry and Landing Download Link https://kerbalx.com/servo/11-STS Enjoy! This is a difficult craft to fly, but I promise you, it's well worth it.
  5. So here is my new LKO space station. I built it over 4 missions using space shuttles, and I sent up the crew in the 4th launch. Compared to my previous stations (which were, erm cough, not the nicest looking things), I think I did an ok job on this one. It's design is loosely based of the ISS, and I could still expand it further (If you have any ideas there, let me know). This is the shuttle I used to build the space station. It's based of the American design, and I decided to name it The Zubrin (after Robert Zubrin, founder of the Mars Society and author of "The Case for Mars). I don't know precisely what its payload to LKO is, but I know that its more than enough to take a fully fuelled orange tank to orbit. It's also pretty stable in flight, re-entry is another story, but as long as you stay relatively flat and don't make sharp turns it flies OK. Here's the link to the craft file: https://kerbal.curseforge.com/projects/space-shuttle-zubrin/files Enjoy! (EDIT: I mildly updated the craft to make it easier to fly)
  6. I built an STS replica mostly based on some tutorials I saw, and if I wrestle with the controls during ascent, It works. The only problem Is reentry. When I reenter, if I pitch up more than 5 degrees it flips over and sways around, going in backwards. The only way to land it is to deploy the drogues and flip it over. The com is in front of the col even with the fuel drained and it flies well if launched from the runway. (I didn't get to take a screenshot of reentry because I was fighting it.) the cargo bay is open in the pic where the fuel is drained does anyone have a solution?
  7. It would do me great pleasure if you guys would check out my new video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewEVni-bPQY
  8. Hi Kerbonauts, After alot tedious RL work i had time to play this game again and i fiddled as you might guess with another Kerbal Space Shuttle. I have made a handfull nicely working ones in my careerplay but suddenly i started to wonder how the external liquidfueltank depleted itself by the SSMEs... Where was the center of mass during the launch in the external tank, respectivly how does the CoM move (external tank only) during the process of draining? Thanks in advance for any hints or answers!
  9. Since I've just recently built my space shuttle Dislantis, I'd like to see what you guys have for reusable orbital transport. Here's the Dislantis (in orbit): Mods used: Cormorant Aeronology (awesome for creating a realistic shuttle that still blends in with stock!) The premise for a shuttle is that it must be a vertically launched spacecraft that has a winged orbiter that will glide back to a landing after its mission. Although it doesn't have to be fully reusable, it must drop stages to get into orbit (no SSTOs!) Show me yours!
  10. I Got space shuttle system and i downloaded everything and am not getting the cockpit Can anyone help? (I Am using 1.3 with it)
  11. After a few days After The first Atlantis Launch They Had the second time they had a crew To Test The Newly Made robotic arm It is Told That It Is Hard to find and Build In a few hours They will return for a runway landing The Last flight til now Was Unmanned and Landed Near By the KSC And Tried to Land at the Runway But didn`t have enough runway space for a landing The Next Part will be in a few hours
  12. Anyone that watches my stream knows I am more a spaceplane SSTO guy than a shuttle guy, but for you shuttle lovers out there, I think you will like this. It is not meant to be a NASA STS analogue but more a Kerbal version of what STS 2.0 could be. It is stock, but so much easier to fly using Atmospheric Autopilot in Rocket Mode as stock SAS has a major issue of over-correcting itself into a never ending oscillating roll. Or, with enough practice, pure manual flight. It can put more than 50 metric tons into a 250KM orbit and return. It can re-enter stable with 50+ tons of cargo as well, but you will need to practice approach and landing as it doesn't want to slow down and you have to keep about 3 times the velocity vs. empty on approach in order to flare properly. I created this and many other vessels on my stream https://go.twitch.tv/rocketpcgaming Here is the Advanced Orbiter + Stack: https://kerbalx.com/rocketpcgaming/Advanced-Orbiter-+-Stack (The mod Kronal Vessel Viewer takes the blueprint screen shots.)
  13. Hi, Alpha Gametauri here. Thought about starting a discussion talking about each others Shuttle's, how to improve them, combination of each others ideas, etc. Nothing specific. I was going to upload my Space Shuttle, but i lost it going back to 1.2.2, (reason being there is a Interstellar mod i miss having and trying to find again.) Let's just say my Shuttle handles like a Drunk Rhino on Landing, come down even a tinsy bit too fast and it shatters. She is a little hard on launch, and i probably have enough fuel left over after i dump the ET for a one-way trip to Duna or Eve. I do have a Shuttle Test Bed file, a Shuttle i use for test upgrade/improvising design and see how it flies. I have tried designing an SSTO, all of them fly wonderfully, except i have little fuel left when in orbit, and if i carry too much, i max at 48-52,000M. Can't wait to see what ya'll have to say.
  14. Some other day, I saw this video. It's really nice how Brett explains how to land the space shuttle lands in a comprehensible way. Anyone agree? This can also help with ksp if your playing in rss/ro and you're trying to land a shuttle.
  15. Hello enginieers. I would like to present you easy, safe way how to earn a lot of $$$$ on turists. NO RISK, NO DEBRIS, NO MESS in space!!! SMART IDEAs: Smart idea with airbrake in space shuttle: you dont need to have dedicated A.I.R.B.R.A.K.E.!!!! you can use 4 elvons (2 on each wing), invert them in full deploy mode and set action group to activate/deactivate deploy mode. (look at space shuttle picture bellow, you can see elvon airbrakes on both wings. Smart idea with hover technology: Kerbals developped this idea during building moon space shuttle. By the smart layout of teriers week and light engines in the bottom of the ship, it is posible to land verticaly on moon. Starting hover engines and main engine is by seting start/stop engine in action group. Space shuttle: Hello, this is the example of cheep space shuttle ship. Cheep and easy to build ship can travel up to 4 passengers for mid- high orbit. You do not need to research dedicated space shuttle parts who are avaible in later stage of career. Let's build own cheeper version, this can help to earn more money for "passengers orbital and suborbital flights" because construction allows you to preform maneuvers in high parts of atmosphere and land on runway of the KSP. Luch cost is quite hight but 80% of the ship is recoverabe, so will pay only for boosters How does it work? Ship upload link: http://www.filedropper.com/kspcheepspaceshuttle Moon shuttle: I would like to show you example of ship which is able to cary 6+1 kerbals to the moon, land there in hover technology, come back to kerbin and land on the runway of the KSP. I have hope that some ideas from my project will inspire you in yours. How does it work? Times and titles: 00:40 setting up position of kerbin and moon 01:20 Ship presentation in VAB 03:20 Take off/lunch 06:25 Adjusting maneuvers to hit the moon (moon gravity breaking) 09:20 Adjusting maneuvers and choosing place to land on the moon 13:10 Prepearing to Land on the moon 15:20 "Hover technology landing" 19:30 Take off from the moon 21:40 How to preform maneuver to come back to home 26:40 Aerodynamic breaking 31:00 Final entry 35:30 Missed approach to rwy 09 - Standard 45/180 Procedure Turn (almost) 41:20 Landing rwy 27 Craft file: http://www.filedropper.com/moonshuttlepax
  16. THE GREAT TECHNICALITY A STORY OF MY URGES So, there's something about me that needs explanation. I like to finish everything I start. It's one of my many interesting traits. I wanted to do the space shuttle challenge, but my PC was broken and by the time it was fixed, the challenge as over. Now, the design you are about to see is legal under the challenge, even though it may not seem so. Here is my justification. It doesn't say anything about the orbiter being radially attatched, does it? We have Liftoff! Getting some heat Kessler Syndrome Orbit Insertion Burn We're here Proof An EVA Descent Initiated After that, well, I over shot and entered the night side, where I prompty crashed, with only the cockpit and some other bits surviving. There is no surviving footage of this event. I'm sorry. ATTENTION! REDESIGN IN PROGRESS. SUGGESTIONS WELCOME.
  17. Does anyone have a closeup photo of the bipod attach fitting on the shuttle
  18. Searching this forum for 'chibi' brings up a few tiny shuttle designs, but most are just scaled down, so I set out to build something with "proper" chibi/SD proportions. I quickly gave up trying to make an external tank and solid boosters work, so the orbiter sits on top of a liquid booster instead. Nonetheless, I think the result is kawaii: Shuttle-chan on the pad. Sayonara, Kerbin-san. Stage 1 separation. Circularising. Landing; engine bell hot from burning off excess fuel. Shuttle-chan parked in front of Tower-senpai. Shuttle-chan comes complete with an abort sequence and emergency parachutes: "Baka!" "Geez, Val, no need to get all tsundere." "Bill, you okay back there?" "Um, I guess..." "Bob? Bob! Bob, look at me. Use the bag. No, the bag!" If you're interested in boring technicalities, this next section is for you: The booster fins are too small to achieve static aerodynamic stability in the pitch axis; SAS prograde hold is mandatory during ascent. Planform of the orbiter. Stability is marginal* with full tanks... ...But improves as fuel is consumed. And finally, if you must have a copy of Shuttle-chan for yourself: Download *Not as suicidal as it looks here, thanks to a draggy fuel cell mounted high on the rear bulkhead.
  19. I am stumped at making a space-shuttle, all I know is vectors, orange fuel tank, kickbacks, and Mk3 parts, but it tried continually and failed continually. Any help?
  20. I have 2 new aircraft and 1 space plane (A shuttle). F22 Raptor, F35 Lightning, and a space shuttle that gets to orbit. Space shuttle - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_ZkNlM8j7rjZjBWRW1EQ2tyWjQ - Recommend after jettisoning the boosters, and at about 600 - 800 m/s, click the autopilot to go prograde. The shuttle will wobble, but it won't flip out. F35 Lightning II - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_ZkNlM8j7rjZndidGdtQzh4TnM (+ VTOL mode) Action groups 1 through 4, 1: Toggle main engine, 2 toggle VTOL mode, 3 shut down VTOL, 4 Shut down Main engine) F22 Raptor - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_ZkNlM8j7rjemFJcTFvcjN1WFU - Nothing much special about this. Made it look similar though
  21. okay I want to see how a shuttle will perform and I kinda have an idea of what it should look like but I would appreciate your advice
  22. These things don't belong in SSTO threads because they aren't single stage, nor do they even come close to it. But they represent a significant challenge to construct, especially in the stock game. Feel free to post your creations. I'm not going to impose any restrictions because for one, I'm not sure what defines a "shuttle" type vehicle. Partially, but not highly reusable, wings, solid rocket boosters, and a lack of airbreathing engines? How easy is yours to fly ? How well does it perform ? How close to the real thing have you managed to get (if that was your aim?) In terms of cost to launch and tech required, would it remotely make sense to use in a career game? To get things started, this is my Kolumbia III. Now that I finally figured out the Mk3 Engine Mount is supposed to have three 1.25m engines and one 2.5m to avoid open node drag , I built a shuttle around the part. I wanted it to be stable and easy to fly, so I compromised on visual similarity by going with a symmetrical arrangement of four boosters & internal fuel with no external tank. The Vector engines may look exactly like the RS-25 but are a bit too powerful for the job and much, much too heavy. They give a CG that is far to the rear. The shuttle wing planform, which I kept, also has CoL far to the rear, but that means all the cargo and fuel is ahead of CG, making it excessively nose heavy when loaded and excessively unstable empty. So, I went with the much lighter combo of 3 Terriers and a Poodle. I still needed some way to shift the CG up a little more. I also had this unused LF capacity in the wings that it pained me to just ignore. So I ended up mounting a pair of NERVs to the wing strakes and panelling them in with wing segments so their presence isn't too obvious. Looks good from this angle. Hey Jeb, you seem to have put the boosters on the wrong side.. Like a good plumber, I boxed in those unsightly NERVs. You'll never realise they're there. Hopefully everyone is too distracted by the majestic booster separation to notice we have twice as many exhaust plumes as there should be. Maybe if I launch in the day it won't be so obvious, but then people are more likely to notice the extra SRBs. . I would say successful payload delivery, but the lab module has no rcs, no power, and no probe core, so it's more a case of "fly tipping" in space. https://kerbalx.com/AeroGav/Kolumbia-III
  23. hey I don't even have KSP installed yet but I want to be ready. So lets talk spaceplanes. Is there any advantage over rockets? Do you have to land on a runway? Can I put chutes in the cargo bay and just splash down?
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