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17 hours ago, R-T-B said:

Could you guys try with the old Environmental Visual Enhancements build, before I used BIOZ's shader recompile? 

I just did;  the bug is still there, and the rings are buggy as well: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wp3f4wz71xs8ysf/Buggy atmosphere 3.PNG?dl=0

Log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/221v8oprmj60sm0/Player.log?dl=0

Could the problem be with RVE64k?

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4 hours ago, Entropian said:

Could the problem be with RVE64k?

I don't know, but thank you for confirming the bug is not with me so I can restore my build.  I was worried and I do appreciate you at least testing for me.

Try without RVE64k maybe?  Only thing I can think to do in your position to rule it out.

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2 hours ago, R-T-B said:

Try without RVE64k maybe? 

Ok, I just tested without RVE64k and it went away.  I'm about to test with RSSVE and see if it still appears.

EDIT: It was RVE64k!  I installed RSSVE and the white atmosphere was replaced with the enhanced ones from RSSVE.  I'm going to take this to the RVE64k thread now.  Thanks for helping narrow down this bug @R-T-B and @blackrack!

 

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Hello, I am currently experiencing a bug which hinders gameplay. And I know scatterer is the culprit because the bug involves one of its features. Whenever I have the ocean shaders on, the ocean instead disappears completely. This hinders gameplay because I cannot see the ocean so if I am launching a boat or landing in it, I don't know how far away it is. This also applies to regular gameplay so I know its not just a thing in the menuhzP5VEd.pngHfh8kfX.pngVXNs7mS.pngJJzXhzZ.png

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Ok so basically I have a version of EVE up which improves performance, and it badly needs testers:

30 minutes ago, TheKurgan said:

Oh.. ok lol, sorry.

See above :)

On 8/18/2020 at 4:10 PM, Kjonde564 said:

Hello, I am currently experiencing a bug which hinders gameplay. And I know scatterer is the culprit because the bug involves one of its features. Whenever I have the ocean shaders on, the ocean instead disappears completely. This hinders gameplay because I cannot see the ocean so if I am launching a boat or landing in it, I don't know how far away it is. This also applies to regular gameplay so I know its not just a thing in the menu

This can have many causes, please check in the OP how to fully report issues.

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7 minutes ago, Nebulagoodies said:

How do I change the color of a planet? I’m on 1.8.1 and trying to make Gael and Tellumo (from GPP) more dark blue.

You need to use the config tool from the OP (it's no simple task btw)

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Ok, here is a comparison between;
Scatterer, v0.0621 Plus an old version of EVE (Using SVE Configs, with the scatterer configs deleted)

vs

Scatterer v0.0630. Plus Blackrack's "performance-enhanced" version of EVE (Using SVE Configs, with the scatterer configs deleted)

Computer;

Core I7 7700k @ 5.05 GHz (custom water cooling loop with 1 x Black Ice Nemesis 280GTS rad, and 1 x Bitspower Leviathan SF 240 rad)

32Gb DDR4 3200 14-14-14-34 XMP enabled. 

EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER FTW3 HYDRO COPPER (water cooled of course)

Mods... or at least most of them besides Scatterer, Eve and SVE...
ModuleManager
ClickThroughBlocker
FilterExtensions
Toolbar
BAM
BDArmory
CameraTools
DestructionEffects
EditorExtensionsRedux
Firespitter
KerbalEngineer
KSP-AVC
PhysicsRangeExtender
ShowFPS v0.2.3.0
SmartParts
TextureReplacer
VesselMover

 

 

I personally like the color of the water better in the old Scatterer, but that is nit picking... All in all, there seems to be a very slight performance increase with the new Eve, but for me, only about 5 or 6 FPS. This may be much more pronounced on a lower end system.

 

This maybe should have been put in the new EVE thread....

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Scatterer 0.0630 seems to work great! No more night voids at KSC, craft in orbit look bright as they ought to.

I have not installed the new EVE however. (I'm using the current EVE and configs from WazWaz's github (1.8.0-2), as well as Planetshine 0.2.6.1. Also EngineLightingRelit (1.6.2.3 with Smokescreen))

But, it looks great on my end.

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7 minutes ago, Not a Spy said:

im just going to repost this cause maybe it might have been forgotten, ive been having a bug where if i try to launch a ship, the sky turns black

here is a log i obtained by looking at all the planets the closing the window:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BRKrOo8c55xMTokzcZxIv8RbDqbJawmi/view?usp=sharing

As far as I can tell from your log:

1) Scatterer isn't even installed

2) A lot of nullrefs and issues related to JSI and other mods

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2 hours ago, blackrack said:

As far as I can tell from your log:

1) Scatterer isn't even installed

2) A lot of nullrefs and issues related to JSI and other mods

1) i know for a fact scatterer is installed

2) wat is jsi? im prettey sure i dont have it

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3 hours ago, Not a Spy said:

1) i know for a fact scatterer is installed

Your log says otherwise.

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Folders and files in GameData:
000ABARISBridgeDoNotDelete
000WildBlueTools
000_AT_Utils
000_ClickThroughBlocker
000_USITools
001KerbalActuators
001_ToolbarControl
AirplanePlus
AnimatedDecouplers
AoATech
APUS_Shuttle
ASET
AstronomersVisualPack
Atlas
B9AnimationModules
B9PartSwitch
B9_Aerospace_ProceduralWings
BDBNIC
BDB_RealNames
Benjee10_sharedAssets
BetterBurnTime
BetterTimeWarp
Bluedog_DB
Bumblebee
Chatterer
ClassicStockResources
CollisionFXReUpdated
ComfortableLanding
CommunityCategoryKit
CommunityResourcePack
CommunityTechTree
ConfigurableContainers
CraftManager
CryoEngines
CryoTanks
DeployableEngines
DMagicOrbitalScience
DMagicScienceAnimate
DynamicBatteryStorage
EngineLightRelit
EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements
EvaFollower
Firespitter
FuelTanksPlus
GameData
HeatControl
Heisenberg
HideEmptyTechTreeNodes
HLAirships
JanitorsCloset
JSI
KAS
KAX
KEI
KerbalAtomics
KerbalEngineer
KerbalJointReinforcement
KerbalReusabilityExpansion
Kerbaltek
KerbetrotterLtd
KermangeddonIndustries
KIS
KronalVesselViewer
KWRocketry
KXAPI
Landertron
LETech
ManeuverNodeSplitter
MarkIVSystem
MiningExpansion
Mk2Expansion
Mk3Expansion
MunarIndustries
NavyFish
NearFutureAeronautics
NearFutureConstruction
NearFutureElectrical
NearFutureExploration
NearFutureLaunchVehicles
NearFutureProps
NearFuturePropulsion
NearFutureSolar
NearFutureSpacecraft
OPT
OPT_Legacy
OPT_Reconfig
PlanetaryBaseInc
PlanetShine
PlumeParty
QuizTechAeroContinued
RCSBuildAid
reDIRECT
ReentryParticleEffect
RemoteTechRedev
ResonantOrbitCalculator
ReStock
ReStockPlus
RetractableLiftingSurface
RLA_Reborn
Saturn INT series Parts
Saturn MLV Series parts
SCANsat
ScienceAlert
ShipEffectsContinued
Sigma
SimpleAdjustableFairings
SmartParts
SmokeScreen
SpaceTuxIndustries
SpaceY-Expanded
SpaceY-Lifters
Stock folder: Squad

Stock folder: SquadExpansion

StationPartsExpansionMetal
StationPartsExpansionRedux
SXT
TantaresLV
TDAPS
TextureReplacer
Trajectories
TriggerTech
TundraExploration
TundraTechnologies
UmbraSpaceIndustries
UniversalStorage2
UtilityWeight
VesselMover
VST
W3
WildBlueIndustries
WorldStabilizer
X-20-Moroz
BDBUpperStageThrustBuff.cfg
files.txt
GPLV3.txt
hydrogenNTRsSQUAD.cfg
KerbalAtomicsEngineLightRelit.cfg
KSPModFileLocalizer.dll
LiquidFuel.cfg
MMREADME.md
ModuleManager.2.8.1.dll
ModuleManager.3.1.1.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.0.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.3.dll
ModuleManager.ConfigCache
ModuleManager.ConfigSHA
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.README.md
ModuleManager.TechTree
ModuleManagerLicense.md
Ore.cfg
README.md
RemoveEngineSpoolup.cfg
WBIPlayMode.cfg

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If you have scatterer installed, where is the scatterer folder?

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[email protected] ~ $ grep -i scatterer.dll /tmp/Player.log
[email protected] ~ $

And why is there no mention at all of scatterer.dll in your log?

 

3 hours ago, Not a Spy said:

2) wat is jsi? im prettey sure i dont have it

Again, your log says otherwise. In bold for emphasis.

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Folders and files in GameData:
000ABARISBridgeDoNotDelete
000WildBlueTools
000_AT_Utils
000_ClickThroughBlocker
000_USITools
001KerbalActuators
001_ToolbarControl
AirplanePlus
AnimatedDecouplers
AoATech
APUS_Shuttle
ASET
AstronomersVisualPack
Atlas
B9AnimationModules
B9PartSwitch
B9_Aerospace_ProceduralWings
BDBNIC
BDB_RealNames
Benjee10_sharedAssets
BetterBurnTime
BetterTimeWarp
Bluedog_DB
Bumblebee
Chatterer
ClassicStockResources
CollisionFXReUpdated
ComfortableLanding
CommunityCategoryKit
CommunityResourcePack
CommunityTechTree
ConfigurableContainers
CraftManager
CryoEngines
CryoTanks
DeployableEngines
DMagicOrbitalScience
DMagicScienceAnimate
DynamicBatteryStorage
EngineLightRelit
EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements
EvaFollower
Firespitter
FuelTanksPlus
GameData
HeatControl
Heisenberg
HideEmptyTechTreeNodes
HLAirships
JanitorsCloset
JSI
KAS
KAX
KEI
KerbalAtomics
KerbalEngineer
KerbalJointReinforcement
KerbalReusabilityExpansion
Kerbaltek
KerbetrotterLtd
KermangeddonIndustries
KIS
KronalVesselViewer
KWRocketry
KXAPI
Landertron
LETech
ManeuverNodeSplitter
MarkIVSystem
MiningExpansion
Mk2Expansion
Mk3Expansion
MunarIndustries
NavyFish
NearFutureAeronautics
NearFutureConstruction
NearFutureElectrical
NearFutureExploration
NearFutureLaunchVehicles
NearFutureProps
NearFuturePropulsion
NearFutureSolar
NearFutureSpacecraft
OPT
OPT_Legacy
OPT_Reconfig
PlanetaryBaseInc
PlanetShine
PlumeParty
QuizTechAeroContinued
RCSBuildAid
reDIRECT
ReentryParticleEffect
RemoteTechRedev
ResonantOrbitCalculator
ReStock
ReStockPlus
RetractableLiftingSurface
RLA_Reborn
Saturn INT series Parts
Saturn MLV Series parts
SCANsat
ScienceAlert
ShipEffectsContinued
Sigma
SimpleAdjustableFairings
SmartParts
SmokeScreen
SpaceTuxIndustries
SpaceY-Expanded
SpaceY-Lifters
Stock folder: Squad

Stock folder: SquadExpansion

StationPartsExpansionMetal
StationPartsExpansionRedux
SXT
TantaresLV
TDAPS
TextureReplacer
Trajectories
TriggerTech
TundraExploration
TundraTechnologies
UmbraSpaceIndustries
UniversalStorage2
UtilityWeight
VesselMover
VST
W3
WildBlueIndustries
WorldStabilizer
X-20-Moroz
BDBUpperStageThrustBuff.cfg
files.txt
GPLV3.txt
hydrogenNTRsSQUAD.cfg
KerbalAtomicsEngineLightRelit.cfg
KSPModFileLocalizer.dll
LiquidFuel.cfg
MMREADME.md
ModuleManager.2.8.1.dll
ModuleManager.3.1.1.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.0.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.3.dll
ModuleManager.ConfigCache
ModuleManager.ConfigSHA
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.README.md
ModuleManager.TechTree
ModuleManagerLicense.md
Ore.cfg
README.md
RemoveEngineSpoolup.cfg
WBIPlayMode.cfg

************************************************************************

 

Either you are very much mistaken as to what you have installed, or that is the wrong log file you linked.

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21 minutes ago, steve_v said:

Your log says otherwise.

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Folders and files in GameData:
000ABARISBridgeDoNotDelete
000WildBlueTools
000_AT_Utils
000_ClickThroughBlocker
000_USITools
001KerbalActuators
001_ToolbarControl
AirplanePlus
AnimatedDecouplers
AoATech
APUS_Shuttle
ASET
AstronomersVisualPack
Atlas
B9AnimationModules
B9PartSwitch
B9_Aerospace_ProceduralWings
BDBNIC
BDB_RealNames
Benjee10_sharedAssets
BetterBurnTime
BetterTimeWarp
Bluedog_DB
Bumblebee
Chatterer
ClassicStockResources
CollisionFXReUpdated
ComfortableLanding
CommunityCategoryKit
CommunityResourcePack
CommunityTechTree
ConfigurableContainers
CraftManager
CryoEngines
CryoTanks
DeployableEngines
DMagicOrbitalScience
DMagicScienceAnimate
DynamicBatteryStorage
EngineLightRelit
EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements
EvaFollower
Firespitter
FuelTanksPlus
GameData
HeatControl
Heisenberg
HideEmptyTechTreeNodes
HLAirships
JanitorsCloset
JSI
KAS
KAX
KEI
KerbalAtomics
KerbalEngineer
KerbalJointReinforcement
KerbalReusabilityExpansion
Kerbaltek
KerbetrotterLtd
KermangeddonIndustries
KIS
KronalVesselViewer
KWRocketry
KXAPI
Landertron
LETech
ManeuverNodeSplitter
MarkIVSystem
MiningExpansion
Mk2Expansion
Mk3Expansion
MunarIndustries
NavyFish
NearFutureAeronautics
NearFutureConstruction
NearFutureElectrical
NearFutureExploration
NearFutureLaunchVehicles
NearFutureProps
NearFuturePropulsion
NearFutureSolar
NearFutureSpacecraft
OPT
OPT_Legacy
OPT_Reconfig
PlanetaryBaseInc
PlanetShine
PlumeParty
QuizTechAeroContinued
RCSBuildAid
reDIRECT
ReentryParticleEffect
RemoteTechRedev
ResonantOrbitCalculator
ReStock
ReStockPlus
RetractableLiftingSurface
RLA_Reborn
Saturn INT series Parts
Saturn MLV Series parts
SCANsat
ScienceAlert
ShipEffectsContinued
Sigma
SimpleAdjustableFairings
SmartParts
SmokeScreen
SpaceTuxIndustries
SpaceY-Expanded
SpaceY-Lifters
Stock folder: Squad

Stock folder: SquadExpansion

StationPartsExpansionMetal
StationPartsExpansionRedux
SXT
TantaresLV
TDAPS
TextureReplacer
Trajectories
TriggerTech
TundraExploration
TundraTechnologies
UmbraSpaceIndustries
UniversalStorage2
UtilityWeight
VesselMover
VST
W3
WildBlueIndustries
WorldStabilizer
X-20-Moroz
BDBUpperStageThrustBuff.cfg
files.txt
GPLV3.txt
hydrogenNTRsSQUAD.cfg
KerbalAtomicsEngineLightRelit.cfg
KSPModFileLocalizer.dll
LiquidFuel.cfg
MMREADME.md
ModuleManager.2.8.1.dll
ModuleManager.3.1.1.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.0.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.3.dll
ModuleManager.ConfigCache
ModuleManager.ConfigSHA
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.README.md
ModuleManager.TechTree
ModuleManagerLicense.md
Ore.cfg
README.md
RemoveEngineSpoolup.cfg
WBIPlayMode.cfg

************************************************************************

If you have scatterer installed, where is the scatterer folder?

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[email protected] ~ $ grep -i scatterer.dll /tmp/Player.log
[email protected] ~ $

And why is there no mention at all of scatterer.dll in your log?

 

Again, your log says otherwise. In bold for emphasis.

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Folders and files in GameData:
000ABARISBridgeDoNotDelete
000WildBlueTools
000_AT_Utils
000_ClickThroughBlocker
000_USITools
001KerbalActuators
001_ToolbarControl
AirplanePlus
AnimatedDecouplers
AoATech
APUS_Shuttle
ASET
AstronomersVisualPack
Atlas
B9AnimationModules
B9PartSwitch
B9_Aerospace_ProceduralWings
BDBNIC
BDB_RealNames
Benjee10_sharedAssets
BetterBurnTime
BetterTimeWarp
Bluedog_DB
Bumblebee
Chatterer
ClassicStockResources
CollisionFXReUpdated
ComfortableLanding
CommunityCategoryKit
CommunityResourcePack
CommunityTechTree
ConfigurableContainers
CraftManager
CryoEngines
CryoTanks
DeployableEngines
DMagicOrbitalScience
DMagicScienceAnimate
DynamicBatteryStorage
EngineLightRelit
EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements
EvaFollower
Firespitter
FuelTanksPlus
GameData
HeatControl
Heisenberg
HideEmptyTechTreeNodes
HLAirships
JanitorsCloset
JSI
KAS
KAX
KEI
KerbalAtomics
KerbalEngineer
KerbalJointReinforcement
KerbalReusabilityExpansion
Kerbaltek
KerbetrotterLtd
KermangeddonIndustries
KIS
KronalVesselViewer
KWRocketry
KXAPI
Landertron
LETech
ManeuverNodeSplitter
MarkIVSystem
MiningExpansion
Mk2Expansion
Mk3Expansion
MunarIndustries
NavyFish
NearFutureAeronautics
NearFutureConstruction
NearFutureElectrical
NearFutureExploration
NearFutureLaunchVehicles
NearFutureProps
NearFuturePropulsion
NearFutureSolar
NearFutureSpacecraft
OPT
OPT_Legacy
OPT_Reconfig
PlanetaryBaseInc
PlanetShine
PlumeParty
QuizTechAeroContinued
RCSBuildAid
reDIRECT
ReentryParticleEffect
RemoteTechRedev
ResonantOrbitCalculator
ReStock
ReStockPlus
RetractableLiftingSurface
RLA_Reborn
Saturn INT series Parts
Saturn MLV Series parts
SCANsat
ScienceAlert
ShipEffectsContinued
Sigma
SimpleAdjustableFairings
SmartParts
SmokeScreen
SpaceTuxIndustries
SpaceY-Expanded
SpaceY-Lifters
Stock folder: Squad

Stock folder: SquadExpansion

StationPartsExpansionMetal
StationPartsExpansionRedux
SXT
TantaresLV
TDAPS
TextureReplacer
Trajectories
TriggerTech
TundraExploration
TundraTechnologies
UmbraSpaceIndustries
UniversalStorage2
UtilityWeight
VesselMover
VST
W3
WildBlueIndustries
WorldStabilizer
X-20-Moroz
BDBUpperStageThrustBuff.cfg
files.txt
GPLV3.txt
hydrogenNTRsSQUAD.cfg
KerbalAtomicsEngineLightRelit.cfg
KSPModFileLocalizer.dll
LiquidFuel.cfg
MMREADME.md
ModuleManager.2.8.1.dll
ModuleManager.3.1.1.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.0.dll
ModuleManager.4.1.3.dll
ModuleManager.ConfigCache
ModuleManager.ConfigSHA
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.README.md
ModuleManager.TechTree
ModuleManagerLicense.md
Ore.cfg
README.md
RemoveEngineSpoolup.cfg
WBIPlayMode.cfg

************************************************************************

 

Either you are very much mistaken as to what you have installed, or that is the wrong log file you linked.

ok, ill make a new log. thank you a lot!

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@Not a Spy There are at least 3 obvious problems with your install:

1: These folders are supposed to be inside WildBlueIndustries/ ...

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000ABARISBridgeDoNotDelete
000WildBlueTools
001KerbalActuators
ClassicStockResources
Heisenberg

2: You have more than one version of the MM dll. Only have the latest version present. Delete the others.

3: You have a GameData folder in your GameData folder. That's a huge no. (Scatterer might be in there, with whatever else.)

Problems aside, JSI is involved with RasterPropMonitor. It shouldn't be terribly important unless you're really concerned with IVAs and whatever parts are packaged in it.

 

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this should work

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LRpHvvNXyPBiTwnVYo8fM_5lOo6UJCFQ?usp=sharing

10 minutes ago, JadeOfMaar said:

@Not a Spy There are at least 3 obvious problems with your install:

1: These folders are supposed to be inside WildBlueIndustries/ ...

2: You have more than one version of the MM dll. Only have the latest version present. Delete the others.

3: You have a GameData folder in your GameData folder. That's a huge no. (Scatterer might be in there, with whatever else.)

Problems aside, JSI is involved with RasterPropMonitor. It shouldn't be terribly important unless you're really concerned with IVAs and whatever parts are packaged in it.

 

i only see one modulule manager

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2 hours ago, Not a Spy said:

i only see one modulule manager

Indeed. The new log you linked does not contain that particular problem... The other issues JadeOfMaar pointed out are still present though, including a nested GameData and a bunch of mod directories in the wrong place.
Scatterer has even noticed how messed up your install is:
 

[Scatterer][Error] Destroying duplicate instance, check your install for duplicate mod folders

Presumably that means there's another copy in GameData/GameData (which shouldn't exist to begin with), along with who knows what else. Chaos ensues.


Trying to troubleshoot supposed scatterer bugs in amongst this disaster is pretty pointless. You have errors from several other mods, as well as from stock game code - the latter is almost certainly caused by the former, and either could be breaking scatterer.
I recommend a fresh install, with mods managed by CKAN so you don't get into such a mess again.
Once you have the rest of your house in order, of if you can reproduce the problem with only scatterer, then we'll talk scatterer bugs.

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