[1.12.x] USI Life Support

[J3ansley]

I'm using non-orange suit kerbals in each case.

Here's my gamedata folder, and what it looks like in a fresh install with just this mod:

http://imgur.com/a/GkAgQ

You also need the rest of the things Roverdude bundles with this mod. You're missing USI_Tools, community resource, module manager, etc.

Those should be in game data separated from the Umbra folder. So you should have more than just the two folders in Gamedata.

Edited September 26, 2015 by J3ansley
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[mhoram]

I just tested this and the minimal requirements to run USI-LS is ModuleManager.

Probably this issue did not come up before, because most people who use USI-LS also use UKS which comes with MM.

@RoverDude: It would probably be best to aviod future confusion if you mention the dependancy on MM in the OP and on your download site, since this is nowhere documented.

[Ampere]

You also need the rest of the things Roverdude bundles with this mod. You're missing USI_Tools, community resource, module manager, etc.

Those should be in game data separated from the Umbra folder. So you should have more than just the two folders in Gamedata.

Thanks, that was the answer I was looking for. Wasn't clear to me from the first post of this mod which bits were necessary.

[ibanix]

I have a bug / highly annoying 'feature'. I have a craft with a Life Support MiniPak on it, and two of the orange-shirt crew onboard. It's a standard setup, so I forgot they didn't 'need' the supplies. Halfway through the mission, with over 50% supplies left, one of the two will 'raid the snacks' and they 'fall out' and both crew members die.

Edit: This appears to happen if on high time acceleration.

[RoverDude]

I have a bug / highly annoying 'feature'. I have a craft with a Life Support MiniPak on it, and two of the orange-shirt crew onboard. It's a standard setup, so I forgot they didn't 'need' the supplies. Halfway through the mission, with over 50% supplies left, one of the two will 'raid the snacks' and they 'fall out' and both crew members die.

Edit: This appears to happen if on high time acceleration.

What's your EC situation like?

[Sharkman Briton]

Hey RoverDude, me and Aelixander are working on a mod, based around Robot Kerbals, one of the features we hope to add is a radiation thing, where Kerbals operating near radioactive/nuclear things (e.g. nuclear engine) would die or end up like a snackless Kerbal in USILS if they operated near it too long, the reason I'm telling you this is becaue Aelixander has told me you are planning a Medical thingy to this mod (or something like that) so I would like to hear you confirm this, so that when/if that medical thing is done we can ask to use the configs of that to make a base for the nuclear thing. Thanks.

[RoverDude]

Yep, though it's very likely not suitable for what you are looking at for radiation

[Sharkman Briton]

What I was thinking was that Kerbals would pick up a resource called 'Radiation' over time, and would die once their Radiation capacity reaches full, and could only have the resource removed via a special part.

Thanks!

[ibanix]

What's your EC situation like?

I noticed it going to zero during one pass through the shadow of Mun. When it play it at low speed, the same thing does happen, but not the same outcome.

[RoverDude]

That would be it then. If you run out of EC the Kerbals kinda freak out

[Araym]

Downloaded USI-LS v.0.1.5:

the "negative credit cost" (stated as "corrected") is still there.

Part cost is still "unchanged", differently as "commits" state related...

[RoverDude]

Downloaded USI-LS v.0.1.5:

the "negative credit cost" (stated as "corrected") is still there.

Part cost is still "unchanged", differently as "commits" state related...

Sorry, I don't understand this message.

[goldenpsp]

Sorry, I don't understand this message.

I'm guessing he is referencing at least this:https://github.com/BobPalmer/USI-LS/pull/27

@araym. If you are going to go to the trouble of actually tracking down the commits. Checking dates helps. 0.1.5 was released July 1 and the above commit was merged July 29. So I imagine all these fixes are just waiting on a release.

[PickledTripod]

Hi it would be gread to have a bigger fertilizer tank like 1,25 or 2,5 m with something like 500 units of fertilizer arround for the big greenhouse...

Btw. really nice mod!

Seconding this old-ish request with a twist: use InterstellarFuelSwitch to make all cans and mini-packs switchable between supplies+mulch, mulch only and fertilizer.

[Wjolcz]

If LS ever comes to stock I would like it to be just like this mod, except with one 2.5m green house part (lab-sized and with big windows) instead of three mulch containers and starvation being more deadly for kerbals.

Edited October 4, 2015 by Veeltch

[Fraz86]

I'm very excited for the upcoming habitation mechanics. Will gravity have any advantage over non-gravity (e.g., planetary surface vs orbit, centrifuge vs fixed module) with respect to comfort/homesickness?

[RoverDude]

If LS ever comes to stock I would like it to be just like this mod, except with one 2.5m green house part (lab-sized and with big windows) instead of three mulch containers and starvation being more deadly for kerbals.

The greenhouses may get some alternate (more realistic) models

And you can definitely toggle starvation to be more deadly (five levels in the next version, two today)

I'm very excited for the upcoming habitation mechanics. Will gravity have any advantage over non-gravity (e.g., planetary surface vs orbit, centrifuge vs fixed module) with respect to comfort/homesickness?

Considering it, either in this or in the next layer which specifically addresses that.

[Fraz86]

Considering it, either in this or in the next layer which specifically addresses that.

Glad to hear it!

I am very much looking forward to the new mechanics, however, I'm slightly disappointed by the idea of rest/comfort resetting every time the Kerbal enters a vessel. Instead, I wish rest/comfort = [habitation rating of current vessel (KM/crew)] - [elapsed time since Kerbal was in a vessel with habitation rating > current vessel (or elapsed time since launch, if the Kerbal has never been in a vessel with a greater habitation rating)].

This would function basically the same as your current comfort system, except that EVA/re-entering the same vessel (or transferring between vessels of similar size) would not extend Kerbals' comfort. It would also eliminate the usefulness of exploitive gameplay, e.g., building a massive habitation complex at the launchpad.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Fraz86

[FungusForge]

Will kerbals in command seats consume resources as well or do they need to be stuffed a pod to survive?

[RoverDude]

Command seat should qualify as its vessel based

[rose4100]

What is the formula for Supply usage per kerbal? Is it simply 1 unit of supplies per day? If this has been addressed before, i'm sorry.

[mhoram]

@rose4100: Here are the numbers: https://github.com/BobPalmer/MKS/wiki/One-Kerbal

[FungusForge]

Coming here to report some weirdness. I have delivered 2 rovers chock full of supplies and electric charge. However these rovers only have command seats. For whatever reason, USILS absolutely refuses to acknowledge this. I tried re-installing in case I did something wrong, but alas it was to no avail. Images from one rover. The other rover is identical resource-wise.

[RoverDude]

huh - interesting. Can you log a github issue and I'll take a look

[FungusForge]

It would appear that someone posted something similar already.