[1.4.2] ForScience! v1.5.2 - Your science autopilot.

[WaveFunctionP]

 

 

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Of all the mods on this list, this one feels the most like cheating. For Science! is designed to remove the science grind by automating it. Simply taking a thermometer into the ocean will automatically record that reading and store it in the command module. Arming a plane with a few experiments and flying it across Kerbin will bring in a steady stream of new science points. No more guessing if you're over a certain biome or trying to fly and press go on an experiment at the same time.

PCGamer: http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-kerbal-space-program-mods-2/

ForScience! is an autopilot for running, collecting and resetting experiments.
Science can start to be a little grindy or tedious after some time playing KSP. This plugin is intended to help improve the experience in various ways.

What it does:
Automagicly detects and runs experiments that have science available, when they are available. (Even those special biomes around KSC.)
Automagicly collects the data from those experiments into a science container (command pod).
Automagicly resets experiments that are "run once", when you have a scientist onboard. (mystery goo, sci jrs)

What it does not do:
Give you science you could haven't gotten otherwise.
Run experiments that do not implement the stock science modules.
Run "run once" experiments without a scientist on board.

How to Use:
The Green FS toolbar icon means it is running.
The Red FS toolbar icon means it is not running.
No toolbar icon means you have no containers onboard, (And that it is not runnning).

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License: CC by SA

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Known Issues:
- none - let me know in this thread if you have one

Acknowledgements:
Special Thanks to stupid_chris, DMagic and xEvilReeperx for helping me navigate the many issues I had while developing this plugin.

Edited April 12, 2018 by WaveFunctionP

[acerola]

Interesting mod. Gonna try it right now.

If you don't have EVA unlocked, does it still collect the data into a command pod?

[WaveFunctionP]

Interesting mod. Gonna try it right now.

If you don't have EVA unlocked, does it still collect the data into a command pod?

Yes. I didn't think about that case. :/

I'll add it to the list.

[bonesbro]

This looks wonderful, thanks!

Just came back after a long break and now there's this cool CKAN mod manager thing. Would be sweet if you could add this to that.

[Errol]

Have you thought about integrating with Science Alert

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/76793

In order to know which science to grab, and when?

[WaveFunctionP]

Have you thought about integrating with Science Alert

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/76793

In order to know which science to grab, and when?

The mod knows when science science is available, and runs the appropriate experiments. That's the automagic part.

It's all in the video, if you can make it past my very uninspiring vocal talents.

If you use ForScience!, you don't have much need for science alert except for things like eva and surface samples, which have rules that are pretty clear compared to the contorted list of states that other experiments require that you remember.

Edited May 6, 2015 by WaveFunctionP

[sralica]

Glad to see you return to moding.

Does it work with probe cores? Is probe core a science container?

[WaveFunctionP]

Glad to see you return to moding.

Does it work with probe cores? Is probe core a science container?

I will add support for probes as soon as I work out a reasonable solution for transmission, since probes do not have containers, I can't simply transmit willy nilly without making the probe inoperable.

[sralica]

So this science container is a stock thing, or you decided not to give it to probe cores?

how about storing numerical science (temperature, gravity...), but not Goo canisters and Sciene Jr.

[SpaceTiger]

So this science container is a stock thing, or you decided not to give it to probe cores?

Its a stock thing. All manned stock pods have them.

[WaveFunctionP]

So this science container is a stock thing, or you decided not to give it to probe cores?

how about storing numerical science (temperature, gravity...), but not Goo canisters and Sciene Jr.

Like SpaceTiger said, the science container is on all stock command pods. Just like all stock engines use a module called ModuleEngine to do their enginey-type things. So do all command pods have a module called ModuleScienceContainer that handles the storage of science data. You can see these module references in the part file, and they are associated with bits of compiled c# code that handle how they behave.

[ndiver]

At the current point what is the link between ForScience! and ForScience Continued?

[SpaceTiger]

At the current point what is the link between ForScience! and ForScience Continued?

ForScienceContinued is a derivative work from for ForScience (code base was taken from version 0.25). The difference is that ForScienceContinued has a much more configurable UI. Of course there are lots of differences in the background. In the end of the day they do pretty much the same.

Edited May 6, 2015 by SpaceTiger

[WaveFunctionP]

Minor update.

v 1.1 - EVA science support
- Science will be automaticly gathered while EVA.

[WaveFunctionP]

New version should be up soon with an adjustment to the science value filter to reduce the number of trailing repeat experiments that are done for extremely little value. Experiments now require that it be worth at least .1 science.

v 1.2 - Science value filtering adjustment
- Increased the minimum value to run an experiment to .1 science.

I take the silence lately as everything is going well.

[midgester222]

A small bug i noticed: in Career mode while on EVA Kerbals will gather surface samples even if you haven't unlocked this function jet.

[kiwiak]

I installed this mod recently and it started gthering reaport that were collected before (from launchpad for example).

Its because i didnt had mod from beggining of my save, and it was unable to keep track of what was collected and what was not, right?

And some other thing. When i discard goo or materals bay reaport, thse became inoperatable. Not finalize experiment, just discard. I have to reset them using sciencist on eva.

Not 100% sure if it s because of this mod though.

[WaveFunctionP]

I installed this mod recently and it started gthering reaport that were collected before (from launchpad for example).

Its because i didnt had mod from beggining of my save, and it was unable to keep track of what was collected and what was not, right?

And some other thing. When i discard goo or materals bay reaport, thse became inoperatable. Not finalize experiment, just discard. I have to reset them using sciencist on eva.

Not 100% sure if it s because of this mod though.

The updated version has an increased science value filter to stop the long trail of repeated experiments. It will not run if the science value goes below .1 science.

As for the goo/scijr, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. If you run one of those manually, the data is automatically collected and made inoperable. It will not reset experiments without a scientist onboard. If you don't want the data collected manually, simple toggle the FS icon to red to turn off the addon. However no experiments will run automatically while it is off.

[kiwiak]

Well, the thing is i had scientist on board, and i had to reset manually. I thought that your mod provided automated reset when scientist is on board.

[WaveFunctionP]

Well, the thing is i had scientist on board, and i had to reset manually. I thought that your mod provided automated reset when scientist is on board.

If you run one manually, it won't be reset automatically.

The addon doesn't actually deploy experiments the same way that you do with the right click menu because of a variety of reasons. But basically it avoids several bugs and avoids the review data spam.

And unless you've encounter an detection issue that I'm not aware of, you should have no need to run anything manually with scientist onboard.

Edited May 11, 2015 by WaveFunctionP

[WaveFunctionP]

ForScience! was mentioned in PC Gamer!

Who'da thunk it?!

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-kerbal-space-program-mods-2/

This made me more happy that it probably should.

[WaveFunctionP]

I'm considering removing the filter for low value science to allow for auto collection of data to be used in the science lab. Since the science popups don't happen anymore, it doesn't seem like it is as big of deal to collect 0 value science data now.

I would interested to hear anyone thoughts about it.

[GavinZac]

You mentioned this in another thread, so I gave it a go. It's great! Must admit it still feels a little like cheating but at this point after 2 years or so of messing around trying to click the right instrument at the right time, reading the same old reports, I think that I've earned a bit of concentration on the actual flying!

[Dante Montana]

I'm considering removing the filter for low value science to allow for auto collection of data to be used in the science lab. Since the science popups don't happen anymore, it doesn't seem like it is as big of deal to collect 0 value science data now.

I would interested to hear anyone thoughts about it.

That is a very cool idea. After playing KSP a couple of month and through a lot of new starts, your plugin is what I´m looking for. Thank you. Science how it should be - automated.

[skips]

Here is a module manager configuration that will enable you to collect science from probes.

@PART[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand],#vesselType[Probe]]
{
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleScienceContainer

		reviewActionName = Review Stored Data
		storeActionName = Store Experiments
		evaOnlyStorage = False
		storageRange = 1.3
	}
}

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