adsii1970 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, monstah said: I miss Red Did I miss something? Is @Red Iron Crown gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qzgy Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, adsii1970 said: Did I miss something? Is @Red Iron Crown gone? It seems so? No visits since march and he has been taken off of the role of Global Moderator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, qzgy said: It seems so? No visits since march and he has been taken off of the role of Global Moderator. Man, I didn't even know. Red Iron Crown was a friend I enjoyed hanging out with and getting to know through the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 We haven't been able to make contact with @Red Iron Crown in a while, so it was decided to remove his permissions for safety concerns. Speaking for myself, I'm really sad that he's gone. He was really helpful to me when I first joined, and when I was a new moderator. I think there's a spot waiting for him if he wants to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dman979 said: We haven't been able to make contact with @Red Iron Crown in a while, so it was decided to remove his permissions for safety concerns. Speaking for myself, I'm really sad that he's gone. He was really helpful to me when I first joined, and when I was a new moderator. I think there's a spot waiting for him if he wants to come back. I hate it when those whom I've come to know and respect just disappear. I'm glad that you all would allow him to resume moderating if he returns. Whomever they recruit to replace him has some pretty big shoes to fill... Edited December 13, 2017 by adsii1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 It is not unprecedented for us to remove an entire thread. In fact, there's a whole little moderators-only subforum where we store these things. They are not deleted because we want to keep a record of our member's conduct for future reference: merely moved to this internal storage. That being said, neither is it a common thing for us to do, and we don't do it for whimsical reasons. It's a last-resort-kind-of-a-situation for threads which are so full of offensive material or built around such a problematic subject that there's no salvaging it. (Replies to a removed topic would be, of course, senseless.) Hiding a post from public view, or even deleting it (which we only do with spambots anyway) does NOT change the forum members' post count or like count. You keep those no matter what happens to the posts themselves. It would be nice if we could inform each person who posted in the thread when we do this, but there are several reasons that we don't. For one thing, as soon as we point out that something was removed, what happens is exactly what you're seeing here. Human nature being what it is, everybody wants to ask what was removed, which goes nowhere because it's something we can't discuss openly or it wouldn't have needed removal in the first place. If we didn't want to do it publicly we could send PMs, but that's simply a lot of PMs to post and dispatch. And last but not least, we do not advertise that something was removed because we do not want to encourage mass-shaming of the forum member who posted the troublesome content. You can see in this thread that there's already been some speculation about and attributing of motivations to the person in question, when in fact all any of us actually knows is that the content was posted. Does it really matter why? Moderation has always been a confidential thing, and we won't discuss the actions we do or do not take toward another person any more than you would want us telling others what we said and did to you. As for Red Iron Crown, real life demands and other interests have recently drawn several people away from the moderation team. But we also have a couple of new people. The list of moderators is kept current, if you want to know who is presently on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 *gasps* The moderators have a forbidden library! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 If it's not aboard a secret base in synchronous orbit over Mexico, I'm going to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstah Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: *gasps* The moderators have a forbidden library! Dungeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: The moderators have a forbidden library! I'm sure "access to the restricted section" is among the top perqs for mods... offsetting somewhat the Augean chore of keeping the Forum clean, and having to explain the methods of doing so over and over again... This is (just one) reason I won't ever be a mod...one of the key perqs of my position is never having to explain myself Thanks @monstah, @Vanamonde--makes perfect sense. ETA: and it's not just Augean--it's Sisyphean, too! Edited December 13, 2017 by Kuzzter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Kuzzter said: I'm sure "access to the restricted section" is among the top perqs for mods... offsetting somewhat the Augean chore of keeping the Forum clean, and having to explain the methods of doing so over and over again... This is (just one) reason I won't ever be a mod...one of the key perqs of my position is never having to explain myself Thanks @monstah, @Vanamonde--makes perfect sense. ETA: and it's not just Augean--it's Sisyphean, too! Ancient mythology on point. I just hope they keep a close watch on the place when they have impressionable young acolytes joining the cloister (I'm looking at you, @Ten Key ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 As long as we're on the subject, a thread was deleted today because it turned out to have been created by a spambot. When that happens, unfortunately, all the posts in the thread are deleted along with the original post. The forum software does not give us the option to save the posts, which is not that much of a loss anyway, because they would be replies to something which no longer exists. And as I said earlier, you folks keep your post counts and likes even if the post themselves are deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpackmaniac Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Is it possible to view people’s signatures on mobile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 23 minutes ago, Vanamonde said: As long as we're on the subject, a thread was deleted today because it turned out to have been created by a spambot So a spambot created a post that actually generated replies? Those things are getting scary. 23 minutes ago, Vanamonde said: And as I said earlier, you folks keep your post counts and likes even if the post themselves are deleted. But what if we don't want to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, Geonovast said: So a spambot created a post that actually generated replies? Those things are getting scary. Well, it was a human spammer. But yes, I'm concerned about Turing Tests, too. 14 hours ago, KSK said: If it's not aboard a secret base in synchronous orbit over Mexico, I'm going to be disappointed. Something something Moderation Nation Observation Space Station location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 On 12/12/2017 at 6:16 PM, adsii1970 said: Did I miss something? Is @Red Iron Crown gone? He hasn't visited since March 5th. How often do you get bots that make advertisement threads? How do you become a moderator? Just curious. Is there a pop up on the screen that says "You are now a moderator. With great power comes great responsibility." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Quote He hasn't visited since March 5th. Some of us log in "anonymously." This alters some displayed information, such as the most recent date. It does not always reflect presence on the forum. Quote How often do you get bots that make advertisement threads? Spambots make accounts 0-10 times per day. We catch almost all of them when they go through the newbie process which requires manual moderator approval for an account's first 5 posts. Occasionally one sneaks by disguised as a person, or as in the case of the one I mentioned deleting today, we suspected that it was a bot right away but gave it the benefit of the doubt until we could confirm it. Quote How do you become a moderator? Just curious. Is there a pop up on the screen that says "You are now a moderator. With great power comes great responsibility." Often we send an invitation to people who seem like candidates, but sometimes we also ask for applications. It's mostly handled through PMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, DAL59 said: How do you become a moderator? Just curious. Is there a pop up on the screen that says "You are now a moderator. With great power comes great responsibility." In my case, I noticed when I saw tools that I wasn't able to see before. 48 minutes ago, DAL59 said: He hasn't visited since March 5th. And I haven't visited since the beginning of November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Dman979 said: In my case, I noticed when I saw tools that I wasn't able to see before. I assume someone spoke to you first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 How does one get 0 posts while having posts? Saw it twice yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 43 minutes ago, Geonovast said: How does one get 0 posts while having posts? Saw it twice yesterday. Posts in some areas (e.g. forum games) do not affect a person's post count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Deddly said: Posts in some areas (e.g. forum games) do not affect a person's post count I knew the games didn't, but for some reason I though The Lounge did, and that's where one of the posts in question was. I just posted in the lounge and see mine didn't go up. I got it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzCorpDivo Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I have a question about looking for addons for a certain mod. Where do I post said question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, JazzCorpDivo said: I have a question about looking for addons for a certain mod. Where do I post said question? The thread for the mod in question sounds like the best place, or failing that, in Add-On Discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzCorpDivo Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Thanks. I searched for the mod in question, which I did not find, so I posted a new topic in the Add-On Discussions thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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