StrandedonEarth Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Vanamonde said: We won't get into the subject of "emergencies" so as to avoid giving anybody clues to ways to cause trouble for the forum. Whoops, oh right, that category of "I could tell you, but then..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdJ Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Well I am out of the loop for the latest lingo as I thought a pedant was One who ostentatiously exhibits academic knowledge or who pays undue attention to minor details or formal rules. But I shall not be pedantic about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, ColdJ said: Well I am out of the loop for the latest lingo as I thought a pedant was One who ostentatiously exhibits academic knowledge or who pays undue attention to minor details or formal rules. But I shall not be pedantic about it. Yes, that is what pedant means, as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Deddly said: A few years ago, the word we don't allow on this forum for the German army in WWII was automatically changed to "bad person". The word filter was later changed to "pedant". Moderators can edit their own posts without the edit being visible, though I usually tick the box to make the edit visible. In this case, I forgot about the change to "pedant" when I typed my joke and made a quick edit within seconds and figured nobody had had a chance to read it yet so no need to tick the box. Oh well. Not even moderators can escape the all-seeing Eye of Sauron Google… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdJ Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Not even moderators can escape the all-seeing Eye of Sauron Google… That organisation will soon be considered a naughty word and will be then known as Duplicitous.Advertising.Machine.Aggresively.Getting.Everybody. or DAMAGE for short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 15 hours ago, StrandedonEarth said: Whoops, oh right, that category of "I could tell you, but then..." There. Should. Be. Four. DOTS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dman979 said: There. Should. Be. Four. DOTS! See, now here I thought my grammar was pretty darn good, but I find I have no idea of the proper usage of the ellipsis, or even that three dots was called an ellipsis. I shall endeavor to pay more attention to using this powerful punctuation properly as I spam it across the forum.... Learn something new every day.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerminator K-100 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Wait there is a auto filter? Let me just test it really quickly (nothing bad just grammer 1940s german person) Grammer pedant wow thats kind of cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdJ Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Dman979 said: There. Should. Be. Four. DOTS! Actually that is a bit of a grey area as the ellipsis was to intentionally leave out "I'd have to kill you." And by definition. The ellipsis ..., . . ., or (as a single glyph) …, also known informally as dot-dot-dot, is a series of (usually three) dots that indicates an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text without altering its original meaning.[1] The word (plural ellipses) originates from the Ancient Greek: ἔλλειψις, élleipsis meaning 'leave out'.[1] 7 hours ago, Kerminator K-100 said: Wait there is a auto filter? Let me just test it really quickly (nothing bad just grammer 1940s german person) Grammer pedant wow thats kind of cool It works in personal messages too. With someone you can trust and who are forewarned of your intent, send a personal message with every nasty swear word you can think of and then see what actually is written once sent, there are some interesting and sometimes funny results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Unless there are alternative rules (I haven't checked), an ellipsis would normally be followed by a full stop (a period for those who speak alternative English) when ending a sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman979 Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Deddly said: Unless there are alternative rules (I haven't checked), an ellipsis would normally be followed by a full stop (a period for those who speak alternative English) when ending a sentence. And since an ellipsis is three dots, and a period (full stop for those who like over-complicating things) is one dot, that makes four. Game, set, and match. And 8 hours ago, ColdJ said: It works in personal messages too. With someone you can trust and who are forewarned of your intent, send a personal message with every nasty swear word you can think of and then see what actually is written once sent, there are some interesting and sometimes funny results. I'd discourage you from doing this, it's a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdJ Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Dman979 said: And since an ellipsis is three dots, and a period (full stop for those who like over-complicating things) is one dot, that makes four. Game, set, and match. That's what you ...! 15 minutes ago, Dman979 said: I'd discourage you from doing this, it's a bad idea. I found this out accidentally. A forum friend had conveyed some bad news and I had exclaimed in response, only to find my word changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoVampire Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Do you guys and gals have the ability to see who opens/closes threads? I have seen mods declare a thread locked and logically conclude said mod locked it, but, in some cases like with “dont click this” it is simply locked with no indication as to which mod closed it or who opened it to let us in to click. Just curious 185010032021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 7:21 PM, Dman979 said: There. Should. Be. Four. DOTS! Maybe I should start using FIVE dots, just to see your reaction Spoiler Spoiler kept hitting the spoiler button on mobile when all is wanted was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, AlamoVampire said: Do you guys and gals have the ability to see who opens/closes threads? I have seen mods declare a thread locked and logically conclude said mod locked it, but, in some cases like with “dont click this” it is simply locked with no indication as to which mod closed it or who opened it to let us in to click. Just curious 185010032021 Yes, there's a record of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 hours ago, AlamoVampire said: ...with “dont click this” it is simply locked with no indication as to which mod closed it... It was locked by Ted in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 hours ago, AlamoVampire said: Do you guys and gals have the ability to see who opens/closes threads? I have seen mods declare a thread locked and logically conclude said mod locked it, but, in some cases like with “dont click this” it is simply locked with no indication as to which mod closed it or who opened it to let us in to click. Just curious 185010032021 9 hours ago, Vanamonde said: Yes, there's a record of it. Most threads don’t have any entries. Some threads have a couple entries. Don’t click this...... well that list has a loading time similar to a super modded 1.3.1 on a potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 2:49 PM, Dman979 said: And since an ellipsis is three dots, and a period (full stop for those who like over-complicating things) is one dot, that makes four. Wrong-o. I got nailed for this when doing my dissertation. An ellipse at the end of a sentence still only has three dots. And when your dissertation was 396 pages, and you have to find each one at the end of a sentence... Yes, it's a lesson one never forgets. And an ellipse never goes at the beginning of a sentence. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman.Spiff Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Hmmmm.... Agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, Spaceman.Spiff said: Hmmmm.... Agree to disagree Correct rules care not. https://erinwrightwriting.com/title-use-ellipses-part-3-ellipses-beginning-end-quoted-sentences/#:~:text=General Rule%3A With the exception of MLA style%2C,unnecessary at the end of a quoted sentence. https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/ellipses.html If you notice in the examples, at the end of a sentence, there's not an extra "dot" added... Experience is a cruel teacher. And it taught me well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) There seems to be disagreement online (who would have thought?). If you're writing a scholarly paper, there should be a style guide you need to stick to, otherwise, most information I can find online is that there should be a period at the end if you're American https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ellipsis/ but that seems less common in the UK. 4 hours ago, adsii1970 said: https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/ellipses.html If you notice in the examples, at the end of a sentence, there's not an extra "dot" added... Look closely at the very last example in that link. There's at least one more on the same page. EDIT: Even the other link uses four.... Edited October 4, 2021 by Deddly More information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modus Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 You guys made me wonder for my language and TIL I've been doing it wrong for a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Or have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, Deddly said: There seems to be disagreement online (who would have thought?). If you're writing a scholarly paper, there should be a style guide you need to stick to, otherwise, most information I can find online is that there should be a period at the end if you're American https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ellipsis/ but that seems less common in the UK. Look closely at the very last example in that link. There's at least one more on the same page. EDIT: Even the other link uses four.... Dude. I was told four was wrong. So, when you're trying to graduate, you do whatever your dissertation chair wants. Even if they are using an older version of the Chicago Manual of Style! 28 minutes ago, modus said: You guys made me wonder for my language and TIL I've been doing it wrong for a long time... Stick with three. It earned me a Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deddly Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, adsii1970 said: Dude. I was told four was wrong. So, when you're trying to graduate, you do whatever your dissertation chair wants. Even if they are using an older version of the Chicago Manual of Style! Oh absolutely! Do whatever your instructor/supervisor tells you to do, and follow the required style guide if you are writing for a journal. 5 minutes ago, adsii1970 said: Stick with three. It earned me a Ph.D. Well, that depends on who you're writing for - another institution might require the fourth dot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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