Wjolcz Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 A 40mm cannon, you say...http://i.imgur.com/bjLe5ce.jpgThe guns look brilliant man, and if you could get BDArmory AI to use multiple weapons that would be amazing!The one used on Me 262 was a 50mm, but yeah, when I saw it I thought about the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDarkStar Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Release it! Release it neeeaaaaaawwwww!In all seriousness, those weapons look fantastic. It s everything I've always wanted. Edited August 29, 2015 by MightyDarkStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Release it! Release it neeeaaaaaawwwww!In all seriousness, those weapons look fantastic. It s everything I've always wanted.Well, that is the WIP of a part of the weapon set, unpolished tip of the iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDarkStar Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 When will you be able to release them, do you reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) When will you be able to release them, do you reckon?ETAs are devil, it will be ready when it's ready.I will try to have at least one working model of each type ready for when the current tournament ends.Then different configs using the same model as a placeholder, every weapon will have a custom model when it's finished.But given how fast VintageXP makes these, this may not be needed. Edited August 29, 2015 by tetryds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlerift Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Did I mention that I am considering using AJE and allowing heavy fighters?Did I also mention that depending on how well 1.1 performs on my desktop I am also planning on having events with up to 4 vs 4 battles?And that some of these battles may consist of two fighters and one heavy fighter per side (can be built by different players) and run on custom kerbal konstructs battlegrounds?Finally, that I plan to pull the graphics settings through the roof and give at least some love to every video?Well, now I did.Heavy fighters, you say?Yes, it does pull slightly to the left... I haven't quite finished balancing it yet. The one used on Me 262 was a 50mm, but yeah, when I saw it I thought about the exact same thing.I know, but I feel that strapping a 4cm gun to the front of a jet is a much more realistic and conservative option than a 5cm one. Damn the Germans and their legendary exuberance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Oh, Christ! Is that another one of those foo fighters?Also this: Edited August 29, 2015 by Veeltch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageXP Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Oh, apparently I've been summoned! I'm glad you guys are liking our mod so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsoul097 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I know submissions are closed, but this is what ive came up with so far for this challenge. Will probably enter next time.Is the Weapon Pack being built for the new BDA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Nice airplanes!New battle video incoming.I'm next, wooo. Edited August 30, 2015 by tetryds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I'm not gonna lie, I can't wait for the tournament to restart. Working on something that will give you all quite a show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) I'm not gonna lie, I can't wait for the tournament to restart. Working on something that will give you all quite a show! Indeed, I think that everybody is.Here is the final battle of the round 1! From now on, everybody who loses will be permanently eliminated.Also, on the next tournament version, crafts with control input issues like this one will be disqualified.Same goes for crafts that cannot steer or drag parts on the ground, like the Rotzooi and the Piston Fighter. Edited August 30, 2015 by tetryds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimech Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Nice airplanes!New battle video incoming.I'm next, wooo. Wow! Gonna watch it completely when home, my laptop sucks atm. But very pleased with the result!By the way, it's spelled Rotzooi ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qromodynmc Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Tedryds, I saw your challenge board, so our planes will fight again? or you'll restart challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Tedryds, I saw your challenge board, so our planes will fight again? or you'll restart challenge?The airplanes which lost one battle on the first round have another chance.But from now on, every plane which loses will be eliminated.I will restart the challenge after this one is finished, then all mods will be updated, etc. (and also because we had a round 16 entries so that was perfect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) I will restart the challenge after this one is finished, then all mods will be updated, etc. (and also because we had a round 16 entries so that was perfect).But you will restart it before the 1.1 happens, right? Seems like the upcoming update still hase some way to go before it's released and the BAD-T is getting close to be finished.E: I assume by saying 'control input issues' you mean the overall wobbliness and insufficient Roll/Yaw/Pitch? Edited August 30, 2015 by Veeltch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 @Veeltch, I am leaving for a week now, but I imagine that I will be able to finish the first BAD-T tournament before the next update drops.8 battles have been fought, 15 left.By the way, the losers bracket will fight for second place, not first, it seems unfair to allow a craft that lost once get the first place.And, of course, another teaser: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunighit Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Indeed, I think that everybody is.I've tinkered so much I'm tinkered out lol. Until I install the new FAR that is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It would be really nice if instead of an arbitrary limit on the number of guns, there was a more organic way of preventing someone putting 50 heavy cannons on their craft.In reality, storage space is one of the biggest limiting factor for a fighter's armament, but that doesn't really apply in KSP, so perhaps we could have very heavy guns/ammo instead so that putting too many guns on board will result in a plane that flies poorly.Cannon could be limited more by the weight and reduced quantity of the ammo as well as the additional weight of the weapon it's self.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 @Browning: yes, it would be amazing if the only limitations came from the game itself.But, as you said, unfortunatelly the game does not offer that, so it has to be done artificially.I am thinking of better ways to limit the weapons, but first we need to see if the AI will be able to use more than one weapon at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phearlock Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hah, speaking of weapons, it was kinda funny, at first I was looking at the 3x Browing M2 setup for the Spike 5, but then I realized... I could actually fire for longer with the 2x 20mm cannons as the ammo weighed less relative to rate of fire. And don't even get me started on 7mm, I'd lose the >1 TWR if I had to put in enough ammo for those 4x 7mm guns to get the same combat endurance I'd get from the 20mm cannons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 @Browning: yes, it would be amazing if the only limitations came from the game itself.But, as you said, unfortunatelly the game does not offer that, so it has to be done artificially.I am thinking of better ways to limit the weapons, but first we need to see if the AI will be able to use more than one weapon at a time.What do you think about simply making the guns and/or ammo very heavy?Phearlock brings up some good points about weight balance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) The system with points for each weapon works better IMO. I don't really like the idea of ammo being heavier than IRL. We're not using uranium rounds here, right? It's just that the points for each weapon have to be balanced. Or maybe there should be historically accurate weapons combinations, though it's not the best idea either, because we don't build replicas here.Anyway, my thoughts are messy today, but I vote for the points-per-gun to stay. It's just that tetryds needs to figure out the right numbers for each of them since he's the boss here.EDIT: Or (!) the guns could have built-in ammo racks. Edited August 31, 2015 by Veeltch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 I am always open to suggestions, but I don't think that making them extra heavy will be good, that is not their purpose.Now ammo, for instance, was made totally free for this very reason, Phearlock gave a very nice example on how to work with it.By the way, you will be able to have more guns on the next version of the challenge than now.Yes I also considered fixed loadouts, but remember that real life is not balanced.And having premade loadouts wouldnt be as fun.I mean, we end up already having fixed loadouts anyway haha.Thats a main reason why we need the AI to use many weapons.I guess I know how to set heavy fighter requirements, but will have to experiment first.Reminding that I am out for a few days before I run more battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Guys, I don't want to worry you, or anything... Just be prepared:Those are 2x Aerosports @100% thrust at less than 100 meters above the sea level. No diving involved. I give you IAS and Surface speeds because I'm not sure which one is more important.Note I'm still waiting for the guns to be released and put on the thing. The top speed might change when I do so.Is this a good result? Edited September 6, 2015 by Veeltch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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