sevenperforce Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 hours ago, mikegarrison said: 6 hours ago, DeadJohn said: I wonder whether Boeing and NASA discussed removing one of the bad thrusters and returning it in the capsule so it can be studied back on Earth. It's likely the idea was briefly considered and ruled infeasible. I wonder which factor(s) are insurmountable: EVA risks to the crew. Risks of thruster removal causing other problems. The thruster might be impossible to remove in space. Not enough time to plan such an operation. Various ISS safety policies. Crew isn't trained to do Starliner disassembly. Unique tools needed aren't available on ISS. Expand If this were a multiple choice quiz, I would be selecting "all of the above". I was literally gearing up to say precisely that when you said it first. No shade to @DeadJohn of course — better to suggest an idea and learn new things than to never suggest anything at all — but “can we move the dead thruster to the capsule for return and inspection” is a level of difficulty somewhere between “can we safely remove Michael Phelps’s kidney while he’s swimming in the Olympic final” and “this is your captain speaking; does anyone know how to replace a main turbine blade before we land?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: this is your captain speaking; does anyone know how to replace a main turbine blade before we land?” United 232: “this is your captain speaking; Can someone please go patch up the hydraulic lines in the tail so we can land this bird in Sioux City one piece? Assuming someone has a barrel of hydraulic fluid in their carry-on, of course…” Yeah, something like that… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Anti-gremlins. They repair even things which must be scrapped. P.S. Btw if they also had taken Bill, the engines and the cooler would not fail. Because the part failure mods depend on the presence of Engineer onboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Starliner undocked and is moving away from ISS. En route to NM. I lack the will to drive down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just duck and cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, kerbiloid said: Just duck and cover. It's coming from the south, and even if it overshot, path is east, I'm safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 One way or another, Starliner is coming to the Land of Enchantment: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sevenperforce Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 What do we call this? It's not a splashdown. Plopdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, sevenperforce said: What do we call this? It's not a splashdown. Plopdown? Landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Wow, it actually works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 01:30:00 Spoiler When you have seen two men in black scuba suits, gas masks, and orange boots in the middle of a desert, you have seen everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) It occurred to me today that they went from having too much thruster use in the first OFT to having some thrusters fail in the second OFT. Apparently it is better to have a few fail. Or maybe they didn't have Jeb on board the first time? Edited May 27, 2022 by mikegarrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 They have bought cheap noname thrusters on Amazon, that's why cheap, many, and often fails. Maybe, the control system is powered by Arduino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 It occurs to me that Jeb collected surface samples from NM. And an EVA report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, tater said: It occurs to me that Jeb collected surface samples from NM. And an EVA report. Looked like dirt. And he didn't really need a helmet for that, did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 9:05 PM, tater said: It occurs to me that Jeb collected surface samples from NM. And an EVA report. too bad they don't have the upgraded astronaut complex that lets you do that in orbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Some of this is certainly scheduling issues as well at ISS. They have to make specific docking windows, or the next opportunity might be months away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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