pap1723 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: All the parts are the same as stock, which means they have similar fuel amounts for given volume, similar ISPs, etc. The problem is, when you scale down, say, Mercury to Kerbal size, and then put it on top of a scaled down Atlas, it has way to much dV. It's not that they're stronger than stock parts, it's that stock lets you get away with way less rocket for a given payload. It becomes obvious when you're using BDB, since you wind up using kerbal-scale versions of real rockets. So, yes. 2x, 3x, or 3.2x should all be appropriate. @Jack Wolfe nice! That is what I thought I remember you saying! That is great news because that means I can use my QuarterRSS without any modifications to launch these beauties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkpaz Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 i just noticed the LEM uses ASET props in its IVA, please tell me you plan on using them in all your IVAs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, zakkpaz said: i just noticed the LEM uses ASET props in its IVA, please tell me you plan on using them in all your IVAs I don't make the IVAs, so I'm not sure. The LEM IVA is more or less a placeholder at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tg626 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, zakkpaz said: i just noticed the LEM uses ASET props in its IVA, please tell me you plan on using them in all your IVAs Does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jso Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Playing with KVV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkpaz Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 19 hours ago, tg626 said: Does it? yep its a great mod i'd love to see it used more heavily. 20 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: I don't make the IVAs, so I'm not sure. if you're not the one making the IVAs could you ask who ever is to keep using ASET props, or it least to make his work files available for download to make it easier for someone to redo them using the props? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, zakkpaz said: if you're not the one making the IVAs could you ask who ever is to keep using ASET props, or it least to make his work files available for download to make it easier for someone to redo them using the props? They're apparently clinically depressed right now, which seems to be the natural end result of working on IVAs. But I'll let him know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinezfg11 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: the natural end result of working on IVAs So true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tg626 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, zakkpaz said: yep its a great mod i'd love to see it used more heavily. WHAT'S a great Mod? You said the LEM uses ASET, mentioning nothing about any mod - which makes it seem you mean BDB uses ASET, now you say "it's a great mod"... This is like reading "Why is a mouse when it spins? Because the faster it spins the fewer!" >_< Edited February 11, 2017 by tg626 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenex Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, Jso said: Playing with KVV... Can we have the HR originals please?? ETS Freedom - Challenger + Freedom 1 Edited February 11, 2017 by Drakenex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 @Drakenex that is a VERY tiny Challenger module. It should be the same diameter of the S-IVB, or rather, it should be ~4m but since our S-IVB is underscaled, it should be 3.75m. It was meant to go on the rightmost Saturn in this image: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Sorry for the double, but a quick update: Due to my continued hiatus, we've decided that we're going to try and get the Github as stable as possible and push through BDB 1.1.0. This update WILL be save breaking, unfortunately, as the entire tech tree has been rebalanced thanks to @minepagan. The update also has a number of new parts, some new features, and a lot of bugfixes and general adjustments. It WON'T contain Skylab, or the probe stuff I was working on. Apologies for the delay in getting them released. I hope that regular work on content will resume in the next couple weeks, but in the meantime we felt that it was worth it to try and get this stable for the regular players. As such, I ask anyone that is interested to test the build currently available from the master branch on Github. If you find any issues, please report them either here on the thread, or better yet, by creating an issue listing on Github. I don't have a firm ETA on the release, it could be very soon, it could be another week or so. It really depends on if we find anything that needs to be fixed. Additionally, if anyone has any parts in the mod that they feel don't hold up to the quality standards of the Porkalike artstyle, please let me know. Once I'm back I'd like to try and do a quick art pass to clean up textures that need work, including possibly increasing the resolution of some textures. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 On 2/10/2017 at 1:23 PM, zakkpaz said: if you're not the one making the IVAs could you ask who ever is to keep using ASET props, or it least to make his work files available for download to make it easier for someone to redo them using the props? 23 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: They're apparently clinically depressed right now, which seems to be the natural end result of working on IVAs. But I'll let him know. I would like to help out on the IVA's, but at this point I don't have the slightest idea where to even start. If someone could point me in the proper direction, I'll blunder off and get to learning. Regarding the clinical depression aspect: I'm a writer, so depression is just another mood for me. Fortunately there are coping mechanisms-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) @Drakenex: May I ask where'd you get the Robotic arm and the handholds Edited February 11, 2017 by davidy12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenex Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: @Drakenex that is a VERY tiny Challenger module. It should be the same diameter of the S-IVB, or rather, it should be ~4m but since our S-IVB is underscaled, it should be 3.75m. It was meant to go on the rightmost Saturn in this image: Yup, I know, but the fairing looked so ugly and unrealistic (come on, there was never a fairing so wide and disproportional ) That I resized it to 2.5. May be I'll try it later, I mean, I have to rebuilt the whole station, because of you kk! 2 hours ago, davidy12 said: @Drakenex: May I ask where'd you get the Robotic arm and the handholds Nebula handrails and community ISS Canadarm2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha tech Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 i have a problem with this mod where the parts lock up and act invisible to the mouse to where I cant drag them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasty echos Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: Due to my continued hiatus, we've decided that we're going to try and get the Github as stable as possible and push through BDB 1.1.0. thanks for sharing your hard work. i love this mod and cant wait to see what you do in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronCretin Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 On 2/10/2017 at 1:45 PM, Jso said: Playing with KVV... Those are awesome! Can @minepagan, @JoseEduardo, and I use them to make icons for our CWPT mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, alpha tech said: i have a problem with this mod where the parts lock up and act invisible to the mouse to where I cant drag them Oh, I know that one! Its a stock bug that particularly affects small parts. Try zooming in more and clicking them - you might even have to clip the camera into the part. 1 hour ago, tasty echos said: thanks for sharing your hard work. i love this mod and cant wait to see what you do in the future Thanks! 2 minutes ago, IronCretin said: Those are awesome! Can @minepagan, @JoseEduardo, and I use them to make icons for our CWPT mod? I'm just going to go ahead and say yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e of pi Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Drakenex said: Yup, I know, but the fairing looked so ugly and unrealistic (come on, there was never a fairing so wide and disproportional ) That I resized it to 2.5. May be I'll try it later, I mean, I have to rebuilt the whole station, because of you kk! There actually were a few! Late model Titans used a 5m fairing on a 3m core. Scaling that to Saturn's 6.6m diameter would actually be an 11m fairing, which makes the 10m fairing we went with actually a bit smaller than ratios demonstrated in real flights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 minute ago, e of pi said: There actually were a few! Late model Titans used a 5m fairing on a 3m core. Scaling that to Saturn's 6.6m diameter would actually be an 11m fairing, which makes the 10m fairing we went with actually a bit smaller than ratios demonstrated in real flights. Do you have a tingling sensation whenever we start talking smack? That's true, but the Titan is a lot longer in both the stack and the fairing, so it looks more proportional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenex Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, e of pi said: There actually were a few! Late model Titans used a 5m fairing on a 3m core. Scaling that to Saturn's 6.6m diameter would actually be an 11m fairing, which makes the 10m fairing we went with actually a bit smaller than ratios demonstrated in real flights. 19 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: Do you have a tingling sensation whenever we start talking smack? That's true, but the Titan is a lot longer in both the stack and the fairing, so it looks more proportional. Ok, lets see: I don't know, Still doesn't look right to me Edited February 12, 2017 by Drakenex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 I think the proportions of your whole stack are off, especially since you only have an S-IVB and not an S-IVC (which i promise I'll finish someday) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenex Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: I think the proportions of your whole stack are off, especially since you only have an S-IVB and not an S-IVC (which i promise I'll finish someday) yup, may be the longer S-IVC could make things look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 51 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: I think the proportions of your whole stack are off, especially since you only have an S-IVB and not an S-IVC (which i promise I'll finish someday) Why not try and Top up the IVC now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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