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[1.12.5] Bluedog Design Bureau - Stockalike Saturn, Apollo, and more! (v1.12.0 "Песок" 13/Jan/2023)


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18 hours ago, Zorg said:

Tantares

Moroz (X-20 dynasoar specifically made for BDB titan)

Commonwealth Rockets/CRE (I really liked kitbashing stuff from this together with early BDB rockets)

Artemis Construction Kit

Shuttle Orbiter Construction Kit

Habtech

Near Future Launch Vehicles

Near Future Exploration

Kerbal Atomics

McDoubles H2/H2A mod

Asbury Western Star Industries (Kistler mod)

Rocket Motor Menagerie

ORANGES (Shuttle Derived stuff in development but public beta is out now, also BDB author Invaderchaos is one of the co-authors)

Universal Storage II

I probably missed a few.

PS there are still some sizes that might be unique to BDB but you can get creative with adapters.

My mod install in a nutshell. I also have knes, tundra exploration, spock (pathfinder shuttle), mk33 (venturestar), HII/H3 transfer vehicle, planetside exploration technologies, redirect (technically obsolete now that ACK is here, but still useful IMO), among a bunch of others.

Also does ORANGES have a forum topic?

Edit: I found ORANGES ON github, nevermind.

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1 hour ago, munman19 said:

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Does anybody know how to fix this?

1. Post logs 

2. Try clean reinstall of the mod. Manually delete its folder and install with CKAN

Hello. So i've been pruning this mod to speed up loading and relive some burden from enormous part list and I have a question.

How exactly compares bdb tanks with the same tanks from vanilla (restock) such as titan tanks? Is there any huge differences other then texture?

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3 hours ago, munman19 said:

 

Does anybody know how to fix this?

Looks like a sign of an incorrect install.

1 hour ago, ra4nd0m said:

How exactly compares bdb tanks with the same tanks from vanilla (restock) such as titan tanks? Is there any huge differences other then texture?

They should be roughly similar and mass fractions should be similar too (except balloon tanks which are much lighter for an equivalent size). But our tanks are not strictly balanced based on matching the volume of stock tanks rather its based on 20% of real world fuel mass so the fuel density can vary. Fuel density is not consistent in stock either though.

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Considering starting a BDB career (lots of other mods involved, but mainly BDB for the parts), so...

Is the current  version of  BDB compatible with Skyhawk science system, or does it need any manual tweaks?

Are contracts provided by BDB comprehensive enough, and/or are there any other contract packs required/recommended for a good BDB career experience? (Also, general recommendations on probes and planetary-oriented contract packs will be greatly appreciated)

I've only used BDB on sandbox saves before, hence the need for some help

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22 minutes ago, Alpha512 said:

Considering starting a BDB career (lots of other mods involved, but mainly BDB for the parts), so...

Is the current  version of  BDB compatible with Skyhawk science system, or does it need any manual tweaks?

Are contracts provided by BDB comprehensive enough, and/or are there any other contract packs required/recommended for a good BDB career experience? (Also, general recommendations on probes and planetary-oriented contract packs will be greatly appreciated)

I've only used BDB on sandbox saves before, hence the need for some help

Skyhawk is pretty good, though recent things like Voyager Mars aren't configured properly. As for contracts, I'm not really sure I've seen any set of contracts that provides a particularly good career experience without completely overhauling contracts (which RP-1 does), but I don't think there's anything wrong with BDB ones. I'd recommend Strategia though, since although it's not a contract pack it gives you incentives to explore and to otherwise play in interesting ways.

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1 hour ago, Alpha512 said:

Considering starting a BDB career (lots of other mods involved, but mainly BDB for the parts), so...

Is the current  version of  BDB compatible with Skyhawk science system, or does it need any manual tweaks?

Are contracts provided by BDB comprehensive enough, and/or are there any other contract packs required/recommended for a good BDB career experience? (Also, general recommendations on probes and planetary-oriented contract packs will be greatly appreciated)

I've only used BDB on sandbox saves before, hence the need for some help

Skyhawk is built for BDB.  I would recommend @Morphisor History of Spaceflight contract pack to run alongside it (light version is more than enough).

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Speaking of Skyhawk's techtree I finally did a Mun landing with it.

Mission: Apollo 4.

Payload: CSM named Amadeus and LEM named Falco.

Crew: Valentina as Commander and LM pilot, Jebediah as CSM pilot and Bill as Engineer.

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Unfortunately Falco's name decal did not load.

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CTV camera footage of Valentina steeping onto the surface.

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Now Bill, thanks Val for holding the camera.

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Thankfully I did not unlock the ALSEP because  where I landed parallax lagged my computer to no end.

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Meet my latest creation/abomination: 

What if NASA decided to use Orion on the ISS... and chose Atlas V as its launch vehicle.

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This abomination is Atlas V N2D2 where D2 is DCSS with 2 RL10 B2s 
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It flies suprisingly well.

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And looks pretty good escpecially considering the existance of the Ares I

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21 hours ago, Pudgemountain said:

Speaking of Skyhawk's techtree I finally did a Mun landing with it.

Mission: Apollo 4.

Payload: CSM named Amadeus and LEM named Falco.

Crew: Valentina as Commander and LM pilot, Jebediah as CSM pilot and Bill as Engineer.

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Unfortunately Falco's name decal did not load.

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CTV camera footage of Valentina steeping onto the surface.

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Now Bill, thanks Val for holding the camera.

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Thankfully I did not unlock the ALSEP because  where I landed parallax lagged my computer to no end.

Please say the crew was blaring "Rock me Amadeus" all the way there and back!

 

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5 minutes ago, Pappystein said:

Please say the crew was blaring "Rock me Amadeus" all the way there and back!

 

Yes except for during launch when "Where My Heart Will Take Me" by Russell Watson aka theme to Star Trek Enterprise which plays as tradition with launching. But other than that they did constantly blast "Rock me Amadeus" the whole mission.

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39 minutes ago, Pudgemountain said:

Yes except for during launch when "Where My Heart Will Take Me" by Russell Watson aka theme to Star Trek Enterprise which plays as tradition with launching. But other than that they did constantly blast "Rock me Amadeus" the whole mission.

RUINED  you ruined a good thing by bringing ST Enterprise into it! :D 

:P

Heck I am old skool Star Trek (saw Wrath of Khan in the theater on Release)   And I prefer the Kelvin Timeline to ST Enterprise :D

 

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1 hour ago, Pudgemountain said:

Yes except for during launch when "Where My Heart Will Take Me" by Russell Watson aka theme to Star Trek Enterprise which plays as tradition with launching. But other than that they did constantly blast "Rock me Amadeus" the whole mission.

I think Archer’s theme or the full motion picture/tng theme are better choices, but I don’t hate it.

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2 hours ago, Pappystein said:

RUINED  you ruined a good thing by bringing ST Enterprise into it! :D 

Everyone has their own liking.

1 hour ago, Blufor878 said:

I think Archer’s theme or the full motion picture/tng theme are better choices, but I don’t hate it.

True but I am a sucker for Power Ballads and Aerosmith has been overdone lol.

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Possibly a stupid question but I am having difficulty using the apollo service module - if I try and 'open' it in the VAB and the 'open all bays' option disappears but the shielding remains on so I can't see where to put things. I'm guessing I'm missing something really obvious

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On 12/4/2022 at 10:32 PM, Pudgemountain said:

Speaking of Skyhawk's techtree I finally did a Mun landing with it.

Mission: Apollo 4.

Payload: CSM named Amadeus and LEM named Falco.

Crew: Valentina as Commander and LM pilot, Jebediah as CSM pilot and Bill as Engineer.

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Unfortunately Falco's name decal did not load.

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CTV camera footage of Valentina steeping onto the surface.

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Now Bill, thanks Val for holding the camera.

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Thankfully I did not unlock the ALSEP because  where I landed parallax lagged my computer to no end.

A funny thing I noticed about your save is mine started a tiny bit later than yours with almost identical mods and the exact same tech tree.

except I'm still at the stage where I'm attempting to get a Kerbal into space.

Kerbalisim and JNSQ really slow you down :sticktongue:

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2 hours ago, Royalswissarmyknife said:

A funny thing I noticed about your save is mine started a tiny bit later than yours with almost identical mods and the exact same tech tree.

except I'm still at the stage where I'm attempting to get a Kerbal into space.

Kerbalisim and JNSQ really slow you down :sticktongue:

LOL I am running Stock Scale with TAC Life Support, OPM and Extra Solar. Originally I was gonna use Galaxies unbound but either A: My computer with 32 GB of RAM can't handle it or B: a mod is causing a memory leak and I am too lazy to find out which one.

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There's a small bug with the model for the Mercury drogue chute. the chute works but its model is broken, the actual parachute part deploys way down on the bottom with the cable its supposed to be attached to going through it.N495we4.png

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4 hours ago, zakkpaz said:

There's a small bug with the model for the Mercury drogue chute. the chute works but its model is broken, the actual parachute part deploys way down on the bottom with the cable its supposed to be attached to going through it.N495we4.png

Can confirm i have same issue

and the main parachute refuses to deploy at all

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1 hour ago, Royalswissarmyknife said:

and the main parachute refuses to deploy at all

i don't have that issue, looking for a simple solution are you use the right part?  there's a fake one on top of the the part the real one attaches to.

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