[1.12.5] Bluedog Design Bureau - Stockalike Saturn, Apollo, and more! (v1.13.0 "Забытый" 13/Aug/2023)

[biohazard15]

3 hours ago, Invaderchaos said:

 

There is impostor among us!

[Minmus Taster]

9 hours ago, Invaderchaos said:

 

 

[TaintedLion]

12 hours ago, Invaderchaos said:

Some more texturing progress for Pegasus:

Very nice work Invader!

Also, I could never find out if Pegasus had any attitude control or whether it had some passive stabilisation like gravity-gradient. The S-IV didn't have any RCS as far as I remember, did they put in any RCS for Pegasus?

[Jcking]

34 minutes ago, TaintedLion said:

Very nice work Invader!

Also, I could never find out if Pegasus had any attitude control or whether it had some passive stabilisation like gravity-gradient. The S-IV didn't have any RCS as far as I remember, did they put in any RCS for Pegasus?

This website states that Pegasus didn't have anything in the way of attitude control, it would just track it's orientation while it slowly tumbled in space. https://www.drewexmachina.com/2015/02/16/50-years-ago-today-the-launch-of-apollo-a-103pegasus-1/

[zakkpaz]

15 hours ago, Invaderchaos said:

Some more texturing progress for Pegasus:

Would you consider making these usable as radiators?

[Pappystein]

21 hours ago, CobaltWolf said:

"Active Seismic Experiment" aka a mortar, used on Apollo 14 and 16

This seriously turned out better than I thought it would... and I watched most of the stream and thought it looked amazing when I had to leave...

W!

O!

W!

On the other hand....

22 hours ago, CobaltWolf said:

Be the Fargo!  PUSH THE BUTTON!

from the show famously miss-called "Urethra !" while filming a scene!

 

 

[Starhelperdude]

[septemberWaves]

Hmm........

[Invaderchaos]

8 hours ago, Jcking said:

This website states that Pegasus didn't have anything in the way of attitude control, it would just track it's orientation while it slowly tumbled in space. https://www.drewexmachina.com/2015/02/16/50-years-ago-today-the-launch-of-apollo-a-103pegasus-1/

Correct. Technically speaking, the mass distribution and shape of the satellite would likely cause it to become semi gravity gradient stabilized, but I am unsure to what extent. 

5 hours ago, zakkpaz said:

Would you consider making these usable as radiators?

I thought about doing some other parts utilizing the mesh for the Pegasus MM Panels, but I'm pretty burnt out on Pegasus and the texture sheet is pretty much full so if I do any alternate stuff with it, it will be later.

[Zorg]

10 hours ago, zakkpaz said:

Would you consider making these usable as radiators?

 

4 hours ago, Invaderchaos said:

Correct. Technically speaking, the mass distribution and shape of the satellite would likely cause it to become semi gravity gradient stabilized, but I am unsure to what extent. 

I thought about doing some other parts utilizing the mesh for the Pegasus MM Panels, but I'm pretty burnt out on Pegasus and the texture sheet is pretty much full so if I do any alternate stuff with it, it will be later.

Also worth considering we will get fold out radiators with the Skylab power tower.

[pTrevTrevs]

11 hours ago, septemberWaves said:

Hmm........

Was this... intentional?

[DaveyJ576]

12 hours ago, septemberWaves said:

Hmm........

In the words of the immortal Gene Kranz (played by Ed Harris), "Work the problem!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0h2Wk6-C_I

[CobaltWolf]

Surface magnetometer

[Starhelperdude]

Quill

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Gemini-Agena

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[Starhelperdude]

VFB

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[CobaltWolf]

Walking down an alley on a rainy night, you see a flickering neon sign beckoning you inside.
Curious, you stamp out your cigarette, pull open the door, and step inside to discover what awaits you...

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by CobaltWolf

[septemberWaves]

Just tested out the J-class lunar mission profile. There are a lot of screenshots so the full report is in a spoiler.

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Ignition.

Liftoff.

First stage cutoff and separation, second stage ignition.

Launch Escape System jettison.

Second stage cutoff and separation, third stage ignition. If I remember correctly this is supposed to be a single burn directly to a lunar trajectory (please correct me if I'm wrong); in practise getting a free return trajectory with Principia is extremely precise in terms of timing and delta-v expenditure and it would've taken me more time than I was willing to expend on a test if I were to determine the correct launch time and Mechjeb PVG configuration.

Command/Service Module separation.

Translation and docking maneuver.

Lunar module extraction.

It takes a couple of days to transfer to the Mun. This mission test has helped me to determine the right amount of life support to put in the Apollo command module when writing Kerbalism configs.

Lunar insertion maneuver took place in the dark. The spacecraft was successfully placed into a 50km near-circular lunar orbit.

The crew transfer to the lunar module and undock from the command/service module. This definitely went well the first time and I certainly didn't accidentally jettison the active docking port when trying to undock it on my first attempt.

Starting the landing burn.

And that is a successful lunar landing.

Apologies for the odd lighting on the lunar surface, I hadn't intended to land directly under the sun but I misjudged the landing location.

I'm only now realizing while typing up this report that I should probably add an inventory cargo part to this rover kitbash.

You'll probably notice a certain something is mssing from these lunar surface activities. I look forward to the new ALSEP parts being finished; they'll be a nice addition to the mod.

Ignition of the ascent module engine to begin the return to orbit.

And orbit is successfully achieved.

Following a sequence of rendezvous maneuvers, the ascent module returns to the main spacecraft and both prepare to dock.

The continued presence of the active docking mechanism allowed the docking maneuver to be successful.

Following crew transfer, the two spacecraft separate.

I forgot to do this until the end of the mission, but I did want to demonstrate the payload of the service module, including the subsatellite.

Following the return maneuver, which also occurred in the dark, the spacecraft begins the return to Kerbin.

Service module jettison in preparation for atmospheric entry.

Overall I'm extremely impressed by the attention to detail in the revamped Apollo and Saturn parts. The parts look great, the staging is good, and there are so many small details that massively improve the experience (the fact that the service module antenna actually tracks Kerbin is a very nice touch and something I wasn't even aware was possible in this game).

In terms of balance, the Saturn V vehicle is somewhat overpowered for this mission profile in JNSQ. First stage at 80% fuel means that the first two stages are good to get the rest into orbit while saving the third stage entirely for the lunar transfer. The fully-fueled S-IVB has about 30% more delta-v than it really needs to reach the Mun from this point. Overall though I think the larger-than-strictly-necessary delta-v margins are reasonable given how the highly-efficient trajectories I use in testing with Mechjeb are difficult to achieve when flying manually as many players do. The margin of the Apollo service module is a bit more strict, but that's not really a problem since it still has enough fuel to account for less-than-optimal maneuvers. The delta-v of the lander stages is definitely overkill, but much like ascending to orbit, a landing isn't the easiest thing to do with good efficiency when flying manually. I think in general it's all very well balanced for casual play.

One thing I would like to see, if possible, is the option to auto-cut the drogue chutes on the command module at a set altitude.

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Like I said earlier, I definitely didn't accidentally jettison the active docking mechanism when trying to undock the lunar module on my first attempt at this...

 

[CobaltWolf]

Sorry for ending early last night, I was tired as hecc. But I did finish up the gravimeter:

[Cheesecake]

@septemberWavesCool pics. I made similar Mun-Landings with JNSQ.
One thing: I saw this weird shadows at some parts. I had this same issue in JNSQ. Do you use TUFX? I recommend to not use the standard profile which are causing this shadows. I mostly use @Zorg configs from here:

 

[Ares27]

37 minutes ago, Cheesecake said:

One thing: I saw this weird shadows at some parts. I had this same issue in JNSQ. Do you use TUFX? I recommend to not use the standard profile which are causing this shadows

I don't think TUFX is the problem, I'm pretty sure it's kopernicus, with the latest releases I get this weird shadow but when I downgrade it the problem disappears (to fix this problem I'm using version-75 btw) 

[Cheesecake]

16 minutes ago, Ares27 said:

I don't think TUFX is the problem, I'm pretty sure it's kopernicus, with the latest releases I get this weird shadow but when I downgrade it the problem disappears (to fix this problem I'm using version-75 btw) 

Yes, you`re right. It was Kopernicus. Latest version which I use ist Build 70.
But there are also some shadow-issues too with TUFX and the standard-profiles.

[DaBaby Kerman]

So i'm using conformal decals, and on the Mercury capsule and most of the other capsules have a weird transparent like coming out of them, usually from the RCS ports. Can anyone confirm if it IS conformal decals and if there is a way to fix it?

[OrbitalManeuvers]

16 minutes ago, Cheesecake said:

But there are also some shadow-issues too with TUFX and the standard-profiles.

For me, this particular issue only happens in flight when you switch to map view. Can usually be solved by switching to another profile, then back again. For me, it happens with profiles that use AO. 

However, referring the screenshots above, I get those same mushy shadows on some parts whenever I don't set scatterer to Very High preset. I think that sets up the Long Distance Shadow settings. (of course then there's AA but that's another issue).

[DaveyJ576]

2 hours ago, DaBaby Kerman said:

So i'm using conformal decals, and on the Mercury capsule and most of the other capsules have a weird transparent like coming out of them, usually from the RCS ports. Can anyone confirm if it IS conformal decals and if there is a way to fix it?

Yes, it is definitely Conformal Decals causing the issue. The Mercury spacecraft is very sensitive as to where the decal is placed in relation to the roll thrusters. The decal can not be too close to the thruster or it will cause the stick-like artifact to extend from it. I reviewed how I had placed the decal and found that I actually had them too low and in the wrong positions. I raised and repositioned them in accordance with historical photos and I was successful in eliminating the stick, at least in part. See below:

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Each had to be placed individually as mirroring did not put them in the right spot. This allowed me to place the flag in the first image without causing the stick. However, I could not place a flag on the other side where the photos showed it to be without causing the stick. I will just leave it off. To me it is less irritating than seeing that stick. I do not know what causes it, I just found how to eliminate it.

[TruthfulGnome]

Saturn M02 - ACV
A bigger brother to Big Gemini.

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