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[1.12.5] Bluedog Design Bureau - Stockalike Saturn, Apollo, and more! (v1.13.0 "Забытый" 13/Aug/2023)


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14 hours ago, AmateurAstronaut1969 said:

I wouldn’t say mediocre - Have you even watched it?

Yeah, I have, and it’s just alright. The first season was pretty good, but the second season goes completely off the rails into the realm of fantasy.

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1 hour ago, Beccab said:

NOST's "Project Pilot/NOSTNIK", the possible-but-unconfirmed first air launched orbital satellite (on a F4D-1 Skyray) https://www.drewexmachina.com/2018/07/25/notsnik-the-first-air-launched-satellite-attempts/


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Ahh the best Ford (Naval Designation F4D hence Ford)  Too bad that no aerodynamics (stock or FAR) will properly replicate the manta ray shaped Delta wing's unique flying characteristics.

It's nearly identical child the F5D Skylancer, could have had a really good career outside of NASA but in the end it was the early test mule aircraft for NASA, before the T-38s arrived...  One resides today at the Neil Armstrong Air and Space Museum (he flew a lot of NASA missions in it.)   Suprisingly, the Test pilot who said the Navy didn't need it was Alan Sheppard.   

On the exact same engine as the F4D the F5D prototypes could fly well above mach 1.   The main differences?  Longer fuselage and the wing fitness ratio were slimmed down.  + Area Rule. 

The main reasons for the cancellation;

1) the ACTIVE RADAR AIM-7B Sparrow II that was the reason for this aircraft's existance was too far ahead of it's time, and the Aircraft's guidance radar was too small to guide the AIM-7C/D/E Sparrow III missile effectively.

2) The F8U (you probably know it as it's post 1964 designation of F-8) Crusader was entering production.   And the Crusader was equal or better in every respect except 1.

3) probably most importantly, Ed Heinemann had pretty much designed every Aircraft on the US Navy's Carrier decks at this juncture.   His A1D (A-1) Skyraider (also called Able Dog due to the designation),   A3D (A-3) Skywarrior (also called All 3 Dead because of no ejection seats by USN REQUIREMENTS), his A4D (A-4) Skyhawk, and his F-4D (F-6) Skyray were all on the carrier decks.  Had the F5D gone into production it is likely too many congress critters would have cried fowl.  The only Standouts not made by Ed Heinemann and Douglas El Segundo for the US Navy at this juncture were the helicopters (the domain of Sikorsky for the most part) and the S1F Guardian  or S2F Tracer and the Tracer derived WF-1 AWACS (needless to say that was called Willie Fudd)

 

Re the AIM-7B Sparrow II:   It wasn't until the 1980s that the US perfected an Active Radar homing seeker head for an Air to Air missile of 203mm / 8" or smaller diameter.    The 6" AIM-120A AMRAAM (Advanced Medium Ranged Air to Air Missile)    The AIM-7B's 8" Diameter didn't have enough room for the vacuum tubes and first generation transistors, in the quantity needed to detect and guide on only ENEMY targets.    The First Active radar Homing missile to enter service was the US Navy's AIM-54C (the AIM-54A did not have Active radar homing per RELIABLE public domain sources.)     That was 15" or almost 5x the volume of the AIM-7B for the same length.

 

 

 

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Does the offset CoM on the Gemini and Apollo spacecraft actually work, enabling you to steer them during re-entry? I know what the procedures were for using it IRL, but does that work in KSP? Thanks. 

Running 1.11.2.  

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1 hour ago, DaveyJ576 said:

Does the offset CoM on the Gemini and Apollo spacecraft actually work, enabling you to steer them during re-entry? I know what the procedures were for using it IRL, but does that work in KSP? Thanks. 

Running 1.11.2.  

G Forces are lower than without the offset mass, and rolling with the offset COM does allow for some level of steering.

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Shuttle-Centaur + Mariner-derived Mercury impactor

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Space Shuttle Orbiter Columbia (OV-102), prepared for launch.

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Liftoff!

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Classic shot.

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Jettisoning SRBs.

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Jettisoning the ET (spoiler: it's not going home)

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Circularizing burn, in order to bring the orbit to a circular 300km.

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Opening the payload bay.

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Payload specialist Andrea Kerman performs EVA to conduct final checks.

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Raising the payload - Centaur-G with Mariner-derived probe. Basically it's a Mariner 10 with one Ranger experiment which is required by contract (yes, this is not sandbox - this is actual career mission)

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Releasing the payload.

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Centaur moves to safe distance...

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...and ignites its RL-10s.

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Releasing probe after trans-Mercury insertion burn.

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Meanwhile, Columbia fires its OMS for deorbit burn.

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Ready for reentry.

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Yay, California! That's pretty good aim, considering my piloting skills.

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Rio Grande Delta, and Brownsville. Since we don't want to send our Shuttle to its scrapyards, we should probably bank left.

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Unfortunately, we won't be able to reach Houston and lay down all our problems in person due to insufficient speed. Oh well, we'll catch a Greyhound after landing.

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Now, where's the nearest bus stop?

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11 hours ago, Jcking said:

G Forces are lower than without the offset mass, and rolling with the offset COM does allow for some level of steering.

So after rolling to the desired attitude, do I turn off SAS or leave it on? Will SAS fight the lift deflection and try to keep the spacecraft on its original path?

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1 hour ago, DaveyJ576 said:

So after rolling to the desired attitude, do I turn off SAS or leave it on? Will SAS fight the lift deflection and try to keep the spacecraft on its original path?

Yes. SAS will try to keep the craft pointing towards wherever it was set. SAS should be turned off during the entirety of the reentry, as the capsule will naturally stabilize.

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4 hours ago, Jcking said:

Yes. SAS will try to keep the craft pointing towards wherever it was set. SAS should be turned off during the entirety of the reentry, as the capsule will naturally stabilize.

If you want more precise control (and have MechJeb installed) you can use Smart ASS in SVEL- mode, turn everything except roll control off and then control the roll angle in the MechJeb window.

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4 minutes ago, Invaderchaos said:

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Some progress on Pioneer. Only have just begun texturing. VERY WIP, but progress nonetheless.
 

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This may have been asked before, but which different parts will it be split into? Like, a dish, the probe core, etc

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1 minute ago, Beccab said:

This may have been asked before, but which different parts will it be split into? Like, a dish, the probe core, etc

Here's a part list off the top of my head. I might be forgetting a part or two. 
Pioneer Probe Core
Pioneer Experiment Bay (the side-pod)
Pioneer Aft Adapter (with small radiators)
Pioneer Dish Antenna
Pioneer Low Gain Antenna
Pioneer RTG
Pioneer Experiment Bay Radiator
Pioneer Stellar Reference Assembly
Pioneer Side Radiator
Pioneer Ultraviolet Photometer
Pioneer Imaging Photopolarimeter
Pioneer Solar Plasma Analyzer
Pioneer Charged Particle Instrument
Pioneer Geiger Tube
Pioneer Cosmic Ray Telescope
Pioneer Asteroid Meteorite Detector
Pioneer Infrared Radiometer 
Pioneer Trapped Radiation Detector
Pioneer Decoupler

Pioneer Orbiter Stuff:
Pioneer Orbiter Propulsion Unit
Pioneer Scan Platform
 

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2 hours ago, Yuriy Istochnikov said:

Lovely!!!

Just a little question: did Pioneer Venus become abandonware? 

I wouldn’t say it’s completely abandoned. Cobalt started it, but Pioneer Venus is kind of a pain, so he moved on to other stuff, like the Saturn update. After the probes I’m currently working on, I’d consider finishing Pioneer Venus, if no one else wants to. My only concern is that it might be difficult picking up someone else’s project where they left off, and maintaining the same style throughout, but it should be possible. Although I’d like to say I’d probably do Mariner before that.

Don’t get me wrong, while I love Pioneer Venus as a probe and it would certainly be nice to get the full line of pioneer probes, pioneer venus is a challenging probe that is definitely on the back burner. 
 

 

On 7/25/2021 at 3:51 PM, Beccab said:

NOST's "Project Pilot/NOSTNIK", the possible-but-unconfirmed first air launched orbital satellite (on a F4D-1 Skyray) https://www.drewexmachina.com/2018/07/25/notsnik-the-first-air-launched-satellite-attempts/
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I never get over how high quality your screenshots are.

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On 7/25/2021 at 10:46 PM, thunder175 said:

@CobaltWolf 

Have a weird request. I can't get the Blender .mu import tool to work. I was trying to import the antenna models in order to measure the dishes to get an exact, or at least an approximation of their size in order to build RealAntennas configs. RA just needs to know the dish size in meters and does all the math itself.

Do you know or have a listing of how big the dishes are in BDB? I'm updating them as they come up in my current career and right now up to Gemini. I'm trying to find the real world specs but am having no luck for many, especially some of the probe antennas. For example I was looking at all sorts of JPL documentation from the 60's the other day trying to get the exact size of the Ranger antenna and couldn't find it anywhere. 

I can't do anything but guess on balance for the omni's, but dishes might be able to be added pretty quickly given that we know the size to the parabolic dish on each model. 

If you open an issue with the list of parts you're interested in on the BDB github or have a public google sheets or something I can look into the ones you're missing.

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Hey

Just asking a little bit of a question; shoot me down if daft or previously asked...

Given the new stock "magnetometer report" experiment, are there plans to convert all previous "magnetometer scan" (bd_magScan) experiments to the stock experiment?

Cheers in advance

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4 hours ago, Beccab said:

Pegasus I launch on the AS-103 mission (1965), launched on Saturn I block II
 

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Nice Pegasus.   I assume you used all BIG fins on the S-I stage (vs the 4 Big 4 Small) due to all the fins being white on this launch?

 

Also SAF Titan LDC fairing with the LES on top?

 

Thanks for these amazing launches Beccab!

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4 hours ago, Pappystein said:

I assume you used all BIG fins on the S-I stage (vs the 4 Big 4 Small) due to all the fins being white on this launch?

Oh that was just an error, Saturn I one of the rockets I know the least about... could have covered the small ones with a white decal like I did with the main tank to make the black parts completely black and the one with "United states" completely white (I half hated the normal BDB Saturn 1 cluster, but damn with pure black tanks and pure white ones it's an amazing part)

4 hours ago, Pappystein said:

Also SAF Titan LDC fairing with the LES on top?

I think that was a Delta separator upside down actually, not sure

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7 hours ago, wallum61 said:

Hey

Just asking a little bit of a question; shoot me down if daft or previously asked...

Given the new stock "magnetometer report" experiment, are there plans to convert all previous "magnetometer scan" (bd_magScan) experiments to the stock experiment?

Cheers in advance

Will have to have a think about that at some point. Initially we decided not to since we were (and as of today still) officially still compatible back to KSP 1.8

With the version freeze to KSP 1.12.x we might look at only supporting that version officially at some point. That said there are tech considerations, the stock experiment has a base science value of 45 vs just 5 for the BDB/Dmagic version. And we have absolutely tons of magentometers starting from the very beginning of the tech tree. 

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