Sigma Dimensions

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

4 hours ago, MrMeeb said:

Is the EVE cloud resizing automatic, and if so, is it compatible with EVE cloud packs? If both of these are true, then it doesn't appear to be working with Stock Visual Enhancements.

what kind of issue are you having? I am not sure the EVE rescalings are complete yet I've asked over at EVE's thread but nobody told me which parameters needed to be rescaled, so for now I only rescale "altitude" and the PQS thingy for gas giants

1 hour ago, Svm420 said:

You can. I spent better part of a day hacking at your configs to allow me to control kerbin separate from the other planets. Did have to do a bit of custom kittopia editing, but I got my mountains down to ~12km not as nice looking as stock, but much more reasonable.

I will look into it, but I have to make sure I can handle the repositioning of KSC for whatever weird combination of parameters someone may want to use

7 hours ago, Jodo42 said:

2.6.16 & .17 (issue persists with either); you have the right rescales

I've overhauled the way atmosphere changes are calculated, if you download the dev.version now you should get the clouds on tekto.

I have a warning for you tho. since you rescale the atmosphere less than the radius, some bits of tekto don't have a visible atmosphere

if you land near water you'll see it for sure tho.

Edited January 18, 2016 by Sigma88

MrMeeb · January 18, 2016

11 hours ago, Sigma88 said:

what kind of issue are you having? I am not sure the EVE rescalings are complete yet I've asked over at EVE's thread but nobody told me which parameters needed to be rescaled, so for now I only rescale "altitude" and the PQS thingy for gas giants

I will look into it, but I have to make sure I can handle the repositioning of KSC for whatever weird combination of parameters someone may want to use

I've overhauled the way atmosphere changes are calculated, if you download the dev.version now you should get the clouds on tekto.

I have a warning for you tho. since you rescale the atmosphere less than the radius, some bits of tekto don't have a visible atmosphere

if you land near water you'll see it for sure tho.

Can't reply right now with a photo, but basically all the cloud altitudes were far too low...I don't think they got changed at all! Mountains clipping through everywhere!

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

36 minutes ago, MrMeeb said:

Can't reply right now with a photo, but basically all the cloud altitudes were far too low...I don't think they got changed at all! Mountains clipping through everywhere!

Did the sky look bad on kerbin too?

From the ksc scene

When you can, could you send me the modulemanager cache, the ksp.log and the Sigma Dimensions Settings.cfg file?

That may help

Edited January 18, 2016 by Sigma88

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

As a follow up to your questions:

2 hours ago, MrMeeb said:

Can't reply right now with a photo, but basically all the cloud altitudes were far too low...I don't think they got changed at all! Mountains clipping through everywhere!

could you please test this version? and let me know if anything changes? thanks

https://github.com/Sigma88/Sigma-Dimensions/archive/4eba7283f9d6fb239d776ed881e34c0a04e7ee61.zip

On 14/1/2016 at 11:56 PM, Svm420 said:

I started using the mod for a 6.4k rescale. It works really well. It definitely keeps kerbin from completely flattening out, but I think it maybe a little too much. By scaling all the PQS mods by the entire rescale factor of 6.4 I have mountains 20km+ tall! That's feels like way too much for me. I would like it to stay within RL limits since our tallest mountain on earth is around 8-9km ASL. Other than that it works nicely.

could you test this version instead? I've added a new parameter to change the landscape

https://github.com/Sigma88/Sigma-Dimensions/archive/6269d3a39d0d9c7cd58cb5c4c6d4fa5b5b2cd17c.zip

basically it works like this:

the planet will be resized by the Resize parameter along with all the mountains.

the geographic features will then be resized by the landscape parameter

so,

using Resize = 2 will change a 8km mountain to a 16 km mountain

using Resize = 2 and landscape = 0.25 will change a 8km mountain to a 4km mountain ( 8 * 2 * 0.25 = 4 )

(I didn't have the time to test it, so it may very well be that it doesn't work)

Edited January 18, 2016 by Sigma88

MrMeeb · January 18, 2016

Will do when I get back from school! Would you like the things you previously asked for still?

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

8 minutes ago, MrMeeb said:

Will do when I get back from school! Would you like the things you previously asked for still?

Yes please, unless everything is fine now

If you want you can also try out the version I linked to svm420

I haven't tested that yet, so I can't assure you it'll work

There is a new parameter there called

atmoVisualEffect

If you set it to 2 it'll change the visual effect of the atmosphere to be twice as high. (Any number > 0 should work)

Edited January 18, 2016 by Sigma88

MrMeeb · January 18, 2016

The version you told me to get does not seem to make any difference

Here's the stuff you asked for...anything else you need just let me know

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3KMolVXKZX_NFdXeVNxTlQ5ajg/view?usp=sharing

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

3 minutes ago, MrMeeb said:

The version you told me to get does not seem to make any difference

Here's the stuff you asked for...anything else you need just let me know

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3KMolVXKZX_NFdXeVNxTlQ5ajg/view?usp=sharing

I'll take a look when I get home

MrMeeb · January 18, 2016

Just now, Sigma88 said:

I'll take a look when I get home

Thank you! I'll quickly look to see if it works with the normal EVE config, in case it's something to do with this and SVE

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

1 minute ago, MrMeeb said:

Thank you! I'll quickly look to see if it works with the normal EVE config, in case it's something to do with this and SVE

I don't think it'll work with the current release of eve, my mod needs the new confif structure (the one used by sve)

The current eve release doesn't have that yet, unless you use the EVE folder from Sve and the boulder co from eve dev version

MrMeeb · January 18, 2016

1 minute ago, Sigma88 said:

I don't think it'll work with the current release of eve, my mod needs the new confif structure (the one used by sve)

The current eve release doesn't have that yet, unless you use the EVE folder from Sve and the boulder co from eve dev version

Ohhh, so is the cloud resize cfg for the old version of EVE?

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

1 hour ago, MrMeeb said:

Ohhh, so is the cloud resize cfg for the old version of EVE?

no, no..

it's for the new EVE

but you need the configs like this:

EVE_CLOUDS
{
	OBJECT
	{
		name = Kerbin-clouds1
		body = Kerbin
	}
}

and I'm not sure if the new EVE already switched to that format

MrMeeb · January 18, 2016

1 hour ago, Sigma88 said:

I don't think it'll work with the current release of eve, my mod needs the new confif structure (the one used by sve)

The current eve release doesn't have that yet, unless you use the EVE folder from Sve and the boulder co from eve dev version

Ah, right. Ignore me, I'll just go be a derp in the corner

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

11 minutes ago, MrMeeb said:

Ah, right. Ignore me, I'll just go be a derp in the corner

lol, np

SVE has that config structure, so it should work fine. It's probably only an issue with me changing the altitude too much. I know that in EVE if you go too low there will be a lot of Z-fighting....

I've looked at the files you sent me,

you have this config structure for EVE clouds:

	EVE_CLOUDS
	{
		Kerbin
		{
			Aurora
			{
			}
		}
	}

that one is not compatible with SigmaDimensions sorry

Edited January 18, 2016 by Sigma88

MrMeeb · January 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, Sigma88 said:

lol, np

SVE has that config structure, so it should work fine. It's probably only an issue with me changing the altitude too much. I know that in EVE if you go too low there will be a lot of Z-fighting....

...surely the altitude should be going up, not down??

Sigma88 · January 18, 2016

4 minutes ago, MrMeeb said:

...surely the altitude should be going up, not down??

yeah it should, but maybe it doesn't go up enough, so it ends up being too low for the new size of the planet

Sigma88 · January 19, 2016

@MrMeeb ok, the dev.version is updated now.

It now rescales EVE clouds correctly (it was a stupid typo on my cfg )

for now it just rescale the 2D clouds, I am not sure how to rescale the volumetric clouds :\

komodo · January 19, 2016

Right. So. Potential error between keyboard and seat here, but...

Am I supposed to have a fadeResize key in my settings.cfg? I can't find it defined anywhere, and ResizePQSMods is freaking out about it on load, which seems to cause Kopernicus in turn to freak out and fail to load correctly... It's entirely possible i'm blind, (Or, it's freaking out for some other unrelated reason...)

I'm trying to apply a ~6.4x rescale to New Horizons, piece of cake, right? Sigh... Example log line is thus:

[ModuleManager] Applying node Sigma/Dimensions/Configs/ReDimension/ResizePQSMods/@Kopernicus:AFTER[SigDim] to Kopernicus/Config/System/Kerbol System

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Cannot find key fadeResize in SigmaDimensions

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Error - Cannot parse variable search when editing key fadeStart = #$@SigmaDimensions/fadeResize$

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Cannot find key fadeResize in SigmaDimensions

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Error - Cannot parse variable search when editing key fadeEnd = #$@SigmaDimensions/fadeResize$

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Cannot find key fadeResize in SigmaDimensions

Etc, etc, etc...

I'm going to futz around with it some more, but I wanted to inquire about that key. The code though is very pretty, I like the cut of your jib!

Settings.cfg currently:

Spoiler


// Base Settings

SigmaDimensions
{
	Resize = 6.4
	Rescale = 6.4
	Atmosphere = 1.32
	dayLengthMultiplier = 4
}



// Advanced Settings

@SigmaDimensions
{
	geeASLmultiplier = 1
	SoIsFromRadius = 0
	RingsFromRadius = 0
	orbitalPeriod = 0
	daysVSyearRatio = 0
	HeightColorFix = 0
	resizeScatter = 1
}

Ok, found it in advancedsettings.cfg... Why github wouldn't find %fadesize when searching for fadesize is beyond me...

~~But in that case, i'm even more confused: Why is the damn key not being loaded?~~ Ok, so it's commented out... *pulls the lever*... I'll be back in a few: Send pie if I don't return.

Edited January 19, 2016 by komodo

Sigma88 · January 19, 2016

1 minute ago, komodo said:
Right. So. Potential error between keyboard and seat here, but...

Am I supposed to have a fadeResize key in my settings.cfg? I can't find it defined anywhere, and ResizePQSMods is freaking out about it on load, which seems to cause Kopernicus in turn to freak out and fail to load correctly... It's entirely possible i'm blind, (Or, it's freaking out for some other unrelated reason...)

I'm trying to apply a ~6.4x rescale to New Horizons, piece of cake, right? Sigh... Example log line is thus:
[ModuleManager] Applying node Sigma/Dimensions/Configs/ReDimension/ResizePQSMods/@Kopernicus:AFTER[SigDim] to Kopernicus/Config/System/Kerbol System

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Cannot find key fadeResize in SigmaDimensions

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Error - Cannot parse variable search when editing key fadeStart = #$@SigmaDimensions/fadeResize$

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Cannot find key fadeResize in SigmaDimensions

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Error - Cannot parse variable search when editing key fadeEnd = #$@SigmaDimensions/fadeResize$

(Filename: /home/builduser/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/LinuxStandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 56)

[ModuleManager] Cannot find key fadeResize in SigmaDimensions

Etc, etc, etc...
I'm going to futz around with it some more, but I wanted to inquire about that key. The code though is very pretty, I like the cut of your jib!

fadeResize is a parameter that is calculated automatically from the parameters you set, could you send me your modulemanager cache file? that may help me pinpoint the issue

komodo · January 19, 2016

22 minutes ago, Sigma88 said:

fadeResize is a parameter that is calculated automatically from the parameters you set, could you send me your modulemanager cache file? that may help me pinpoint the issue

MM Cache + Player.log

Thanks for checking into it! We get 128 errors from ResizePQSMods. The 4 from ROMini are harmless and unrelated. Kopernicus blows up with a NRE as the Injector is initialized.

I'm scratching my head... Going to rip out New Horizons next, but I don't know why that would foul up the works... :huh:

Sigma88 · January 19, 2016

19 minutes ago, komodo said:

MM Cache + Player.log

Thanks for checking into it! We get 128 errors from ResizePQSMods. The 4 from ROMini are harmless and unrelated. Kopernicus blows up with a NRE as the Injector is initialized.

I'm scratching my head... Going to rip out New Horizons next, but I don't know why that would foul up the works...

@KillAshley seems to have the ability of break my mods and he is pretty consistent

but I think it may just be some weird issue, I never had problems with that

oh god....

don't tell me linux has a different alphabetical order :0.0:

it looks like the patches are not applied alphabetically :mad:

Edited January 19, 2016 by Sigma88

komodo · January 19, 2016

22 minutes ago, Sigma88 said:

@KillAshley seems to have the ability of break my mods and he is pretty consistent

but I think it may just be some weird issue, I never had problems with that

oh god....

don't tell me linux has a different alphabetical order

it looks like the patches are not applied alphabetically

DOH!

I'll play around with that... It is a Case Sensitive system... But i've not run into this problem before. Surely someone in RSS land has noticed this trait, i'm certain a lot of them are linuxites by nature. Hrm.

I've just given it a go with stock system + kopernicus, and fingers crossed, it seems to have worked, damn the errors. Kopernicus still has injector errors, but we appear to be rescaled... I'm putting together a rocket to see if we are, but so many sandbox parts... how do people manage this?

Sigma88 · January 19, 2016

1 minute ago, komodo said:

DOH!

I'll play around with that... It is a Case Sensitive system... But i've not run into this problem before. Surely someone in RSS land has noticed this trait, i'm certain a lot of them are linuxites by nature. Hrm.

I've just given it a go with stock system + kopernicus, and fingers crossed, it seems to have worked, damn the errors. Kopernicus still has injector errors, but we appear to be rescaled... I'm putting together a rocket to see if we are, but so many sandbox parts... how do people manage this?

well, my whole cfg system relies on the fact that cfgs are applied alphabetically. ModuleManager is case sensitive, so that cannot be the problem

try changing the names of the cfg themselves to full caps (or full lower case if you prefere) maybe that can fix it

Sigma88 · January 19, 2016

@komodo I think I have found the problem

try doing this:

go to the GameData/Sigma/Dimensions/Configs/ReDimension folder

and rename the file "ResizePQSMods" to "resizePQSMods"

that was the only one that started with a capital letter, and was the only one applied in the wrong moment.

let me know if that solves it...

EDIT:

even better, if you want I've added every needed fix to the dev.version, you can take a look at that one if you want

Edited January 19, 2016 by Sigma88

komodo · January 19, 2016

47 minutes ago, Sigma88 said:

@komodo I think I have found the problem

try doing this:

go to the GameData/Sigma/Dimensions/Configs/ReDimension folder

and rename the file "ResizePQSMods" to "resizePQSMods"

that was the only one that started with a capital letter, and was the only one applied in the wrong moment.

let me know if that solves it...

EDIT:

even better, if you want I've added every needed fix to the dev.version, you can take a look at that one if you want

Firing it up now. It had in fact rescaled the stock system correctly, so a test mission took a little bit to get up, around, and down. I'm glad I left a bit of engine on the reentry stage, we came down short of the west-'o-KSP mountains in the highlands... and about 10km altitude >< I may play about with those newly mentioned advanced settings another day, but so far...

Aka, mod/config's working great, --> having a blast.

Edge cases are crazy, but at least this one turned out to be semi-sane. Filenames/cases are a pain, aren't they? Little buggers sneak in everywhere.... lol.

Yep, looks as though the patches applied entirely clean, andddd, success! Thanks for your detective work! I think it would have taken me a bit longer to spot that, kudos.

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