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[1.5.x] STM's Final Frontier Expedition/Rank Ribbon Packs (updated 25/04/16 - New! (old) Science Ribbons!)

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UPDATE 3/11/18 - Still good for 1.5.x!

 

Getting into the game it helps to give the Kerbals a little bit of character. Using Final Frontier and my ribbon pack gives you the opportunity to acknowledge the experience and expertise of your Kerbals, besides through their skills.

These are all user-assigned. But I am keen to talk with anyone who might like to write a plugin to make promotions and assignment of roles easier.

ALSO: Want a set of ribbons for your expeditions like the ones below? Ask, and I'll see what I can do. FAQ below.

REQUIREMENTS

Before we go any further, the Ribbon Packs below are designed to work with Final Frontier by Nereid. Final Frontier 0.9.1 or higher must be installed and working properly in order for this mod to work. Visit the Final Frontier Thread.

INSTALLATION

Download the packs that you want below and move the GameData file from the RAR to your KSP folder. Overwrite where it asks to do so.

SET 1 - RANKS PACKS (Last updated 13/03/16)

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The first 3 packs are for Ranks. I've simplified the rank structure of the military organisations of Australia, the US and elsewhere, while keeping them unique. I also intentially ignored the usual ribbon design, and bumped the prestige up high so the ranks show up distinctively against the other ribbons a Kerbal has earned. The ribbons are shown in the Spoiler below:

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You can pick and choose which packs you want to install as they do not depend on each other. Personally, I don't see many Generals or Corporals in space, but I digress.

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SET 2 - ENGINEERING ROLES (Last updated 13/03/16)

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On a ship, base or station with a number of crew, how do you distinguish who is in charge of what? My Engineering Role pack comes in here with the following roles:

The style is the same as the Science Roles pack already included in FF.

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If you can think of any other roles that can't be adequately included in the above, let me know and I'll think about adding them.

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SET 3 - OPERATIONS ROLES (Last updated 13/03/16)

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On a ship, base or station with a number of crew, how do you distinguish who is in charge of what? My Operations Role pack comes in here with the following roles:

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The style is the same as the Science Roles pack already included in FF.

I tried to think about who would be on the "bridge" of a large spaceship, and what they would be doing. Also, what a Pilot would do if they were hanging around a base when the base wasn't... Flying somewhere? Hence Land Ops, Administrative and Agricultural.

I thought about adding one for Atmospheric Ascent/Descent and Landing, but this should be bread and butter for any Pilot. Same goes for Docking and almost every other piloting job.

 

If you can think of any other roles that can't be adequately included in the above, let me know and I'll think about adding them.

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SET 4 - SCIENCE ROLES (Last updated 25/04/16)

Spoiler

On a ship, base or station with a number of crew, how do you distinguish who is in charge of what? My Science Role pack comes in here with the following roles:

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These are the ribbons that were in the Final Frontier pack.

If you can think of any other roles that can't be adequately included in the above, let me know and I'll think about adding them.

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SET 5 - EXPEDITIONS PACK (UPDATED 13/03/16)

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I like knowing what missions my Kerbonauts have been involved with over the course of their careers. If you do too, then this ribbon pack is for you.

For each Expedition, a base ribbon, 2IC and Leader ribbon are given.

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If you can think of any other roles that can't be adequately included in the above, let me know and I'll think about adding them.

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If YOU want me to design a ribbon for any of your bases/expeditions, get in touch and I'll see what I can do. Subject to the following points:

  • Tell me about the expedition. I need to know the name of the expedition, but... Where is it? What is its purpose? What has it done? Is there anything interesting about the mission that you think might help me out? A screenie of the craft/station/base would be awesome as well, but not really required.
  • All Expedition ribbon sets have the same format: a general ribbon for everyone involved, a 2IC ribbon for the second in charge, and a Commander ribbon for the boss.
  • It might take me a while to get things done. I'm a Dad (to two beautiful, clever girls) and a Husband (to a fantastic wife), I work full-time as a teacher (and let me tell you how many hours I work outside of work...), and I really really enjoy actually playing KSP (among other games) myself. I'll do this stuff for people in my free time.
  • Unless you're unhappy with it, it will get added to the Expeditions Pack, which anyone can download and use. If you are unhappy about it for whatever reason, let me know as soon as possible.
  • That said, I exercise absolute design discretion. If you don't like the result, I'm very sorry, but tough. I'll remove it from my pack as soon as you let me know but you're going to have to live with it. I'm not really willing to go back and forth creating the perfect work for anyone (I had a brief, frustrating experience where "design" was added to one of my previous jobs' description; didn't end well).

 

LICENSE & ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

This work is based on Nereid's work with Final Frontier. In particular, the CFG file is substantially derived from Nereid's work.

Otherwise, this work has been created by Daniel R. Judd and is licensed per Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 3.0 AU. For more information and the licence text, see "http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0".

BLANK RIBBON

Want to make your own? Here's a blank white ribbon to help you start.

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I've updated with two new ribbon packs...

As I said, I'm happy to discuss adding new expedition ribbons for other people based on your own games, so long as you're happy for it to be put into my pack. Get in touch if you want to discuss it out.

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I like what you have done, but i do have a suggestion. I am a retired canadian army medic, and was a corporal. The rank of corporal should never be a single chevron, and should not be bellow lance corporal. The rank of lance corporal is just a nice way of saying private. Like an intermediate step. I suggest you switch the labels for those two ranks. When i start my 1.1 career save (after a full year of waiting) i will be switching them in the .cfg if it is easy to do.

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Made a PR to CKAN - https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN-meta/pull/923

Im not sure if getting the files from dropbox will actually work or not, possibly KS or Github would work better - assuming you are interested in getting the stuff on CKAN. If you are not, then I suppose it doesnt matter.

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The engineering roles pack is part of my install now. It does make me think that the aeronautical engineering ribbon from the FF science set should be an engineering one, though. Will be looking forward to see operations specialties. Perhaps some suggestion could be made to @nereid for moving/removing the existing engineering science ribbon?

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1 hour ago, blu3wolf said:

The engineering roles pack is part of my install now. It does make me think that the aeronautical engineering ribbon from the FF science set should be an engineering one, though. Will be looking forward to see operations specialties. Perhaps some suggestion could be made to @nereid for moving/removing the existing engineering science ribbon?

I know. I'm keen to make some changes to them actually.

I've suggested it to split off my stuff, but I think we might have to wait for 1.1?

Operations will be coming this week. There's not as much as for Science and Engineering.

In other news (got all excited and then forgot to mention this), I've accounted for @Errol's feedback and moved around Lance Corporal and Corporal (thanks!).

I've also got some feedback offline that ATM was mangling the patterned texture I had used for the background, so I've changed to a matte background. Should work better. I've also added Chief Master Sergeant (seriously, how many Sergeant ranks do you guys in the US have?), as this is apparently should be the apex of the Enlisted ranks.

Per @blu3wolf's suggestion, I've moved everything to Kerbalstuff, and ticked the box to get everything up on CKAN (thanks!). Hopefully it'll work without me needing to muck around with it.

Still keen to hear from people wanting their expeditions worked up. Still keen to hear any other feedback

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You're amazing. I did not know I needed this. It would seem I do. I would love a ribbon for everyone who's been to my Space Station: Spacelab I (which currently has no lab. It is simply Space I).

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If I wanted to see about an expedition ribbon, what would be a good source of inspiration for you?

I would love to have a ribbon for my Minmus Station, possibly a small series of ribbons which supercede each other with stages on it. Its been built with OKS, and its a major part of my career strategy. Ive found you can save a lot of money by building in space... for instance, I just built a small magnetosphere probe at the Station. Dry mass was 250 kilos. 32 units of monopropellant gave it a little over a kilometer a second delta v capability. Hauling 250kg of rocketparts up to the station was not very difficult... seeing as it launched with 5t of rocketparts.

Anyway, a custom ribbon for the station would be just the shot! Only, Im not great at making ribbons. Any chance you might be able to come up with something?

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1 hour ago, NotAgain said:

You're amazing. I did not know I needed this. It would seem I do. I would love a ribbon for everyone who's been to my Space Station: Spacelab I (which currently has no lab. It is simply Space I).

OK... I was intrigued by the idea that you'd put up Spacelab... Without a lab. So I did two for you, one with something obviously missing. :)mqjX0Fx.png

I'll have it in the Expeditions pack later tonight.

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1 hour ago, blu3wolf said:

If I wanted to see about an expedition ribbon, what would be a good source of inspiration for you?

Good question... You've probably given me enough. :) I'll get to it in a sec.

But to answer the question for everyone else, tell me about the expdedition. Where is it? What is its purpose? What has it done? Is there anything interesting about the place that you think might help me out? A screenie would be awesome as well, but not really required.

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This is not the magnetosphere probe, but it shows the station!its had a few modules built in situ actually.

 

 

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2 hours ago, SmarterThanMe said:

OK... I was intrigued by the idea that you'd put up Spacelab... Without a lab.

The lab is the next module to go up. It simply weighs 13 tons with docking ports and RCS.

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11 hours ago, NotAgain said:

The lab is the next module to go up. It simply weighs 13 tons with docking ports and RCS.

Yeah I figured. Heh. Was just saying that's why I did one with something missing. :)

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Updated the Expedition pack to include NotAgain's Space1 and Spacelab1 and blu3wolf's MOSA.

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Hmm. I get a 401 error trying to get the expedition pack from KerbalStuff. Thats unusual.

EDIT: got it now, not sure whether logging in fixed it or something else.

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I may have forgotten to press "Publish" (gods this is complex, I need more sleep). If you've had trouble, try again? :)

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Hello SmarterThanMe,

Your Ranks addon for Final Frontier ist very cool. With Final Frontier we can see what our Kerbals have done in their Lives an Career. Befor the FF-Mod came out we KSP Players must save this Kerbal hero history in ouer minds. In this case Final Frontier ist very cool and helpfull. Your Ranks addon for Final Frontier give us and the Kerbals much more depht. Great work man.

But I have some Questions.

1. Can an Enlisted Kerbal  Chief Master Sergant became Officer ? (In the real world this is not so easy) 

2. How works the promotion-system in your addon ?

3. The Warrant Officer ranks are very nice but what must a Kerbal do to became a promotion to a Warran Officer ? Is the Kerbal fixed for all times in this Ranks or can he go up to the Officers ranks ? I am from Germany and we have a different ranks system in our Navy/Army but I know how the US/GB System of ranks work. In the Honor Harrington novel-series a high ranked Warrant Officer is equal to a Commander I think. Is this true and how your      addon takes care of it ?

4. Is your addon stable at the moment ? 

Puhh all this questions ... sorry for that but I hope you find some time to answer my questions. Great work and a very nice addon for Final Frontier. Thank you.  

 

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35 minutes ago, CommanderHH said:

Hello SmarterThanMe,Your Ranks addon for Final Frontier ist very cool. With Final Frontier we can see what our Kerbals have done in their Lives an Career. Befor the FF-Mod came out we KSP Players must save this Kerbal hero history in ouer minds. In this case Final Frontier ist very cool and helpfull. Your Ranks addon for Final Frontier give us and the Kerbals much more depht. Great work man.

Thanks. :) Happy to help.

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But I have some Questions.1. Can an Enlisted Kerbal  Chief Master Sergant became Officer ? (In the real world this is not so easy) 

That's up to you. There's no process here, I haven't created a system that automagically promotes people. You have to award the ribbons, then award the next one when you think the Kerbal is ready.

If someone with a little bit of programming skill wants to create a plugin that can handle that for me, please, get in touch. I'm totally keen to work on that with someone. But yeah, I can't do that sort of thing.

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2. How works the promotion-system in your addon ?

Umm, answered above I think. :) Just like all the Role Play ribbons, these are done by you.

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3. The Warrant Officer ranks are very nice but what must a Kerbal do to became a promotion to a Warran Officer ? Is the Kerbal fixed for all times in this Ranks or can he go up to the Officers ranks ? I am from Germany and we have a different ranks system in our Navy/Army but I know how the US/GB System of ranks work. In the Honor Harrington novel-series a high ranked Warrant Officer is equal to a Commander I think. Is this true and how your      addon takes care of it ?

My understanding of WO's are that they're more or less enlisted men but that they're recognised specialists in their field. So, higher ranking individuals would be silly to ignore them, particularly where they're working in an area where they have expertise.

However, I'm not a military man. I'll defer to whatever anyone else with more expertise says here (perhaps @Errol might have an opinion?).

So, my addon doesn't take care of that. It's role play only, and all of it is up to you (unless someone wants to write a plugin for me).

35 minutes ago, CommanderHH said:

4. Is your addon stable at the moment ?

Considering I'm just dealing with graphics... Sort of? I'm still thinking of how to keep everything organised.

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@SmarterThanMe Thank you for your fast answer :)

Your Role Play System ist very cool and I like the thinking to award the Kerbals by myself. Jeb for General ;) 

I`m not a military man too and the WO`s or in Germany Portopee Unteroffiziere are specialists in their field and no one ist silly to ignore them. You are right. 

The Idea to make a plugin is very nice but both are very nice ... Role Play awards given by the user or a plugin that make this for us after the Kerbal earn some XP or makes a mission.

I think both types are very nice but if ther is somebody to help you with the plugin you must have both Version of your addon ... the RP-type and the plugin-type. Some players like RP-Type and others like the plugin-type.

I like your addon and the RP- awards. I will give them a try.

 

Have a nice Sunday and Thanks.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, SmarterThanMe said:

Updated the Expedition pack to include NotAgain's Space1 and Spacelab1 and blu3wolf's MOSA.

Thanks!

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Dude, NIIICE.  In my absence you guys have done a lot of neat stuff. Cheers!

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