p1t1o Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, adsii1970 said: You have been Ninja'd. Please see my last post... ninja'd you back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, p1t1o said: ninja'd you back ninja'd both of you (see my post several posts back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p1t1o Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) I think we can agree that paying for mods won't be popular... Even for a subscription, it is highly disagreeable, even just for the effect it will have on the modding environment as a whole for the president it sets. Track it forward and soon you have no modding communities and a bunch of 3rd party paid DLCs (which could only go forward with the approval of the brand). So basically a huge step backwards. Edited February 15, 2016 by p1t1o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodDusk Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, p1t1o said: Track it forward and soon you have no modding communities and a bunch of 3rd party paid DLCs (which could only go forward with the approval of the brand). So basically a huge step backwards. No...Stop doing accurate descriptions of what Steamworks is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas2342 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Plus, not everyone uses dollars...Think of how expensive it would be just to download mods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Iron Crown said: Funny thing about protecting a trademark, you have to show a history of pursuing it. If you have a a history of ignoring encroachment on the trademark then courts will not take claims seriously. Except that Squad PROMISED the entire community that they would not take this route back when they partnered with Curse. Funny how things have changed so quickly and now they are going after their own community. Great job squad!! You have now become like every other corrupt evil corporations out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 But there needs to be a mechanism for those of us who wish to support the mod hosting site to do so. As I recall, Kerbal Stuff never even had a PayPal donate button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just for curiosity, I disabled my ad blocker and went to Curse. I had no idea the amount of crap that was displayed on the pages. I very quickly turned my adblocker back on. I've started uploading my mods to Curse, but am thinking of just hosting them myself on spacetux.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 1 minute ago, linuxgurugamer said: Just for curiosity, I disabled my ad blocker and went to Curse. I had no idea the amount of crap that was displayed on the pages. I very quickly turned my adblocker back on. I've started uploading my mods to Curse, but am thinking of just hosting them myself on spacetux.net I quit using Curse a while back ago for that very reason - and then some. Its search mechanism is not user friendly and the site is clunky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, boxman said: Except that Squad PROMISED the entire community that they would not take this route back when they partnered with Curse. Funny how things have changed so quickly and now they are going after their own community. Great job squad!! You have now become like every other corrupt evil corporations out there. They are not going down this route. They came to an agreement with KerbalStuff a year and a half ago. Squad has not forced KS to be taken down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p1t1o Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 1 minute ago, boxman said: Except that Squad PROMISED the entire community that they would not take this route back when they partnered with Curse. Funny how things have changed so quickly and now they are going after their own community. Great job squad!! You have now become like every other corrupt evil corporations out there. Take what route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said: Just for curiosity, I disabled my ad blocker and went to Curse. I had no idea the amount of crap that was displayed on the pages. I very quickly turned my adblocker back on. I've started uploading my mods to Curse, but am thinking of just hosting them myself on spacetux.net Do a favor to your users and give Curseforge links rather than Curse links, much more user friendly, no timers and only internal ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, p1t1o said: Take what route? It is obvious is it not?? To go to legal action against third party mod sites. Edited February 15, 2016 by boxman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, boxman said: It is obvious is it not?? To go to legal action against third party mod sites. What are you talking about? The shutdown had nothing to do with legal action. That was merely Squad protecting their trademark, and nothing came of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, linuxgurugamer said: What are you talking about? The shutdown had nothing to do with legal action. That was merely Squad protecting their trademark, and nothing came of it Did I say it was directly the reason?? It was ONE of the reasons according to what he wrote himself. And who cores if nothig came to it, when they said in the past they would not go after third party sites and had absolutely no problem with people making alternatives to curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas2342 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Guys, take a deep breath and chill. The last thing we need is an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 1 minute ago, boxman said: Did I say it was directly the reason?? It was ONE of the reasons according to what he wrote himself. And who cores if nothig came to it, when they said in the past they would not go after third party sites and had absolutely no problem with people making alternatives to curse. You need to learn trademark law. They really had no choice, otherwise they would have lost their trademark. Blame the politicians if you want for that stupid decision 8 minutes ago, Red Iron Crown said: Do a favor to your users and give Curseforge links rather than Curse links, much more user friendly, no timers and only internal ads. If ckan will support that, I will, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Fine job, OP. "I stopped volunteering my time and energy to extend this website, because my efforts were always met with silence or complaints." -KerbalStuff, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodDusk Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, Red Iron Crown said: Do a favor to your users and give Curseforge links rather than Curse links, much more user friendly, no timers and only internal ads. If CKAN supports that, sure. Otherwise, only GitHub and/or BitBucket links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yemo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Red Iron Crown said: Do a favor to your users and give Curseforge links rather than Curse links, much more user friendly, no timers and only internal ads. I'll rather stop modding than going to curse or curseforge or whatever. edit for precision Edited February 15, 2016 by Yemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, BloodDusk said: If CKAN supports that, sure. Otherwise, only GitHub and/or BitBucket links. CKAN also supports links to other websites, but they must be exact and specific, so if you change the file name, you need to update ckan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodDusk Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, linuxgurugamer said: CKAN also supports links to other websites, but they must be exact and specific, so if you change the file name, you need to update ckan I'm pretty sure Curse and Curseforge have methods that would prevent CKAN from working. Wouldn't want all those ads from not generating any revenue, would you? Plus, would be easy to see Curse taking action against CKAN for whatever arbitrary reason they cite. Edited February 15, 2016 by BloodDusk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Many other hosts are available (I'm not sure whether CKAN and Curse get along or not). It looks like there are some people attempting to revive KerbalStuff too, so there's some hope that we'll have the best of both worlds again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umlüx Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 maybe nexusmods would be an option? as they already have a working modmanager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidJuho Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, Umlüx said: maybe nexusmods would be an option? as they already have a working modmanager. Yeh, but i still like ckan interface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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