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WW2 BAD-T 2 - BDA AI Dogfight Tournament [SEMIFINALS]

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1 hour ago, tetryds said:

 bombs yes, but not missiles, who knows when the AI will start using them against other airplanes? :P

LOL. If you want anti-air rockets, just use 40mm rounds. They'll blow a plane clean in half and are much, much cheaper and lighter than rockets.

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I would rather if everybody entered monoplanes for fairness.

If I was to allow biplanes I would have to create a new class for them, with less points and stuff.

 

Edit: and remember that you no airplane is a wasted design, you can battle against anything to improve your own design even if it's illegal.

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Gnoyze

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On 3/1/2016 at 6:17 AM, Pds314 said:

So, um. I apparently made a plane with a 4-meter wing?-span that has superior lift characteristics to most of my fighter designs and can easily kill the dummy.

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This seems like it's worth experimenting with.

P.S. with the second image, the clock should read 1:10. As in, that's the time between switching teams and a kill, starting both at the same place facing opposite directions.

I need this. Even though I can't use it in the comp, this is a plane I have to have.

Also, @tetryds, can I make a plane where the main wing sweeps up into the rear wing thing? (I'm a noob at aircraft terminology. Ironic I want to be an aircraft engineer) Or would this no longer be a mono wing plane?

Another thing, what is the difference between the 2 stage and single stage propeller engines? I have no idea what to pick and I can't figure out how to switch stages on the 2 stage propeller engines.

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Single Stage vs Two Stage?
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Is Heinkel Lerche considered a monoplane?

EDIT: It's coleopter, but would you allow such design? I think it would balance itself out pretty well considering it's a VTOL, has to have a certain mass and TWR of >1. It probably couldn't carry much guns/ammo.

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Pds314

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16 hours ago, tetryds said:

I would rather if everybody entered monoplanes for fairness.

If I was to allow biplanes I would have to create a new class for them, with less points and stuff.

 

Edit: and remember that you no airplane is a wasted design, you can battle against anything to improve your own design even if it's illegal.

LOL, Alright (sets up battle between Fifth gen and widshed monoplane).

On a side note, what about this sort of shenanigans?Artistic_view_of_a_PrandtlPlane_freighte

Also, if we were allowed biplanes, it'd probably be adviseable to create some smaller engines. 1.25m is quite big for a biplane engine.

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As a rule of thumb,if "this shouldn't be allowed" crosses your mind, you should reconsider your design.

And... no VTOLs, lewl.

Biplanes won't be allowed on this version of BAD-T, will study adding them on the next one.

But I don't see anything wrong with annular wings like this:

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I have seen piston airplanes killing jets, mainly because of the AI, not sure how they go with the update.

Right now I am deciding on a deadline, given that experimentals should last around two weeks at least, thinking about 13th or 20th.

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1 minute ago, tetryds said:

As a rule of thumb,if "this shouldn't be allowed" crosses your mind, you should reconsider your design.

And... no VTOLs, lewl.

Biplanes won't be allowed on this version of BAD-T, will study adding them on the next one.

I have seen piston airplanes killing jets, mainly because of the AI, not sure how they go with the update.

Right now I am deciding on a deadline, given that experimentals should last around two weeks at least, thinking about 13th or 20th.

Alright. Looks like my new ultra-short-takeoff craft shall not be allowed. =( The entire craft length is under 4.5 meters.

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2 minutes ago, BahamutoD said:

AI actually doesn't use SAS - it overrides all inputs.  

Oh. Alright. Well in that case, the AI doesn't seem to care about yaw control, at least... not enough to fly craft that aren't yaw-stable.

At least, when they don't have the ability to vector thrust all over the place.

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1 minute ago, Pds314 said:

Oh. Alright. Well in that case, the AI doesn't seem to care about yaw control, at least... not enough to fly craft that aren't yaw-stable.

Yes, the AI assumes some yaw stability, especially when aiming and taking off.

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7 minutes ago, BahamutoD said:

Yes, the AI assumes some yaw stability, especially when aiming and taking off.

*Sobs*

But..... BrakeRudders!

EDIT: Hmm.. well, it seems to be having pitch stability issues anyway.

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Which version of BDArmory will be used in the competition? v10.3.2 listed in the first post or a newer version with the updated AI? It seems that most people are testing their designs with the new AI, so this would be good to know.

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9 hours ago, Pds314 said:

Planes so far (including obsoleted and illegal designs, and the dummy for scale):

Also, Tetryds, is my ring wing allowed? 

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How do you design your planes so well? what cockpits are those and how do you get the body to not be stock color?

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