LittleBlueGaming Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Crap, that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'll eat my words if I'm wrong (and I sure hope I am) but there's no way SpaceX is putting anyone up in the next two years. With the political winds the way they are, I would be surprised if at this point they actually fly anyone for NASA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman703 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Its pretty rare for things to go bad this late in flight, isn't it? Aren't most RUD's on the pad, or within a few hundred meters of the pad? Other then the recent progress and a shuttle mission, can't think of launches that got that far before fireballing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbart Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I do have to wonder about the odds.First Russia loses their resupply then the very next run Space X has a failure.I am not one for conspiracy / sabotage but like I said what are the odds.Well as long as they're not zero, it can happen.- - - Updated - - -Today's Falcon 9 launch blew up 2 minutes and 19 seconds into the flight.I guess they weren't aware of the aero changes in 1.0 and beyond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Could it be that what we saw near the top of the stack is the computer jettisoning the Dragon when it detected the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceXray Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 It was a sad year for space flight for sure, but it's not the end of the world. SpaceX will recover, and now that the problem Weill be exposed, future Fslcon flights will be much safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wumpus Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 With that mindset we will. SpaceX will recover. And continue to do great things.Best guess for today is that SpaceX will have to first launch people from someplace other than Florida. This really hurts the manned rating for Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdad84 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Old KSP Dev NovaSilisko has a working theory that IDA (the new docking adapter) might have came loose and caused this whole issue. It was the heaviest payload the Dragon has carried in its trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptRichardson Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'll eat my words if I'm wrong (and I sure hope I am) but there's no way SpaceX is putting anyone up in the next two years. With the political winds the way they are, I would be surprised if at this point they actually fly anyone for NASA.If the Dragon safely GTFO'd like it seems to have, they might yet. If it happened, it's a better RUD abort than any other in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipcard Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Well there goes the idea of cheap space travel, it's over. ULA wins, SLS wins, humanity will remain trapped on this rock until civilization collapses or technological singularity, and then the only things leaving the planet won't be humans.Ariane 5's first launch was a failure, and yet Arianespace never quit. NASA had a lot of failures back in the early days, and yet they never gave up. Three out of five Falcon 1 flights were failures (consecutive, too), and SpaceX didn't say, "that's it, we're done." Edited June 28, 2015 by Pipcard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Well there goes the idea of cheap space travel, it's over. ULA wins, SLS wins, humanity will remain trapped on this rock until civilization collapses or technological singularity, and then the only things leaving the planet won't be humans. SpaceX are a company that launches rockets, not the bloody second coming. Quite a few people on the internet seem to have difficulty making that distinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Something definitely came off that rocket before it fell apart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazingAngel665 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 There appeared to be an anomaly in the second stage or dragon stage. It appeared that something was venting (either a cryogenic tank or failed gas generator?) and then the flight termination system was activated at about T+00:02:19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptRichardson Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 SpaceX are a company that launches rockets, not the bloody second coming. Quite a few people on the internet seem to have difficulty making that distinction.Space X is the only one actually interested in getting people permanently off this rock and trying to get at the resources in space. Hurting them hurts mankind as a whole, since everyone else is too busy thinking short-term profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Crap, did you guys hear that the unmanned SpaceX rocket exploded after liftoff? O.O Saw that on CNN.SpaceX just has to roll with the punches here since you're going to have some failures along the way (hopefully not to manned vehicles). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin_arahal Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 dont worry for ISS's astronauts! there will another spacecraft resupply the ISS THE 3th of July. (Pogress Rocket) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman703 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Old KSP Dev NovaSilisko has a working theory that IDA (the new docking adapter) might have came loose and caused this whole issue. It was the heaviest payload the Dragon has carried in its trunk.Is it bad that I immediately thought of the Iris failure from The Martian when I saw this?(for any that don't know it, rushed rocket launch, cargo comes loose inside fairing, bumps around, fireballs rocket) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceXray Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I knew something was fishy, first time in a while SpaceX launched on first try, without delays, and also carrying heaviest trunk payload yet.If Nova's theory proves to be correct, they can out all the blame on the adapter and not on the rocket itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G'th Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Any one else hear his voice quiver a bit there at the end?But yeah I just watched this myself. It was quite something from the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpaget Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 A gif with previous pictures, overlaid for the rocket to match the position in the frame.The center of the cloud definitely appears to come from the top parts, and there is some flame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelLestat Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I blame it on all the changes and upgrades they keep making after every single launch. Most of them are good, but you can't expect all of them to work fine.If they have a reusable launcher this would not happen, this is the problem when you do a new rocket and there is not way to fully test it before launch.How do you will feel if you fly in a new 747 (which never fly)?I'll eat my words if I'm wrong (and I sure hope I am) but there's no way SpaceX is putting anyone up in the next two years. With the political winds the way they are, I would be surprised if at this point they actually fly anyone for NASA.All agencies had their launch fails, some of them a lot of accidents involving many lives. I guess there is none agencie or space company with an exception in this.. So lets not make this bigger than it is.Besides from the begining, the crew test dint begin until the 2017, so there still 2 years left of testing for that..Also, errors is what teach us more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Old KSP Dev NovaSilisko has a working theory that IDA (the new docking adapter) might have came loose and caused this whole issue. It was the heaviest payload the Dragon has carried in its trunk.Well that a intresting theory, if it true it might help SpaceX case, that are only hope now. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong (and I sure hope I am) but there's no way SpaceX is putting anyone up in the next two years. With the political winds the way they are, I would be surprised if at this point they actually fly anyone for NASA.Yeap. Its over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuky Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 this is where it began (sorry I couldn't capture it more precise)Seems, like most here already concluded, at the top of stage 1 or bottom of stage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotengineer Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 What does this mean for SpaceX going forward? The Russians can keep on flying rockets when one of theirs fails, but SpaceX has to deal with all the red tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivman Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Something definitely came off that rocket before it fell apart...SpaceX should say that was the in-flight abort test for Dragon- they installed super-dracos in secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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