Wingman703 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Almost sounds like their relay/transmitter needs to be on a mini floating platform hardwired several hundred feet away from the barge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Now that there's 6, where are they going to put it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Spaceception said: Now that there's 6, where are they going to put it? Maybe offer a bulk discount. but with any luck, hopefully there won't be six for long... Edited August 15, 2016 by CatastrophicFailure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 59 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: but with any luck, hopefully there won't be six for long... Nah, they'll still have six, but one will have two flights under it's thrust structure. Though I suppose by then they'll have seven or eight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, Shpaget said: So, what could cause feed interruptions during landing? Playlist switching delay. I'm just joking, just joking! 23 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: AFAIK, the air around the base of the rocket is ionized during landing. Isn't the same air ionized on a rocket launch? Engines power is 9 times greater. 10 hours ago, Veeltch said: Why do they almost always lose the signal just before the landing on the barge? Do they not want to show it in case of a failure, or maybe super hot gas exhaust causes some sort of signal loss? If so, why? A counterpart question: why this never happens on launch, under more stressed conditions? Edited August 15, 2016 by kerbiloid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: Playlist switching delay. I'm just joking, just joking! Isn't the same air ionized on a rocket launch? Engines power is 9 times greater. A counterpart question: why this never happens on launch, under more stressed conditions? Under launch you have multiple fixed cameras who use cables. Under landing you have an single drone who use the barge as relay as they have limited range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, magnemoe said: Under launch you have multiple fixed cameras who use cables. Under landing you have an single drone who use the barge as relay as they have limited range. I understand. I mean: whether during space launch (Falcon, Shuttle, any) wi-fi network is down around the launch site? Or, say when tactical missiles are launched, do they blind their command&conquercommunication? Edited August 15, 2016 by kerbiloid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: I understand. I mean: whether during space launch (Falcon, Shuttle, any) wi-fi network is down around the launch site? Or, say when tactical missiles are launched, do they blind their command&conquercommunication? Wifi probably get problems at the launchpad during a launch so you don't use it. Tactical rockets are much weaker and they can use more powerful transmitters, still most systems has an time before they can reliable communicate with missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softweir Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 5 hours ago, kerbiloid said: I understand. I mean: whether during space launch (Falcon, Shuttle, any) wi-fi network is down around the launch site? Or, say when tactical missiles are launched, do they blind their command&conquercommunication? Wi-Fi signals are generally omni-directional or at worst have a broad uni-directional beam, so they are relatively immune to vibration. (Not totally immune - pick up your network hub and shake it and some of your devices might well start dropping packets.) There is unlikely to be any wi-fi in the immediate vicinity of a launch-site, and any control signals will be sent from a building some distance from the pad, just in case of accidents. The problem with the barge landings is that satellite video links have to be very precisely directional, and everything is very close to the actual landing so the vibrations are intense. As @magnemoesaid, tactical rockets are weaker and use more powerful transmitters, plus they are using low-bandwidth telemetry systems, not high-bandwidth video. Similarly, tactical missiles are launched some distance from the control centre, and the control centres have dedicated landlines to communicate with the outside world. Interference is just not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Yet another congratulations SpaceX, hopefully this won't worn out... They should release all the recorded videos of the landing during the stream cutoff. Kinda annoying that all the barge cam is having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Alternately, the tech stream could include the velocity of S1 (they must be getting telemetry, right?) on the screen, maybe with a status. we'd see the velocity drop to zero, then a green "landed" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 14 hours ago, kerbiloid said: Isn't the same air ionized on a rocket launch? Engines power is 9 times greater. The base of the rocket would be worse than the top, and the top is where the comms are (I think). Also, the cameras near the pad are farther away from the rocket than the ones on the barge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 This is a much better pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptRichardson Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Deals/Toray-carbon-fiber-to-carry-SpaceX-s-Mars-ambitions?page=1 SpaceX just signed a TWO BILLION dollar deal for carbon fiber supply. I have the teeniest-tiny squeak of 'oh god, it's really happening' right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaszenko Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 "Re-using space vehicles will help slow the proliferation of debris, which has become a substantial risk to space exploration." Uhhh...that's their understanding of why they're trying to reuse rockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pincushionman Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Lukaszenko said: "Re-using space vehicles will help slow the proliferation of debris, which has become a substantial risk to space exploration." …except the parts they're returning don't contribute to space debris since they're never in orbit. Who/where is that quote from? Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Industries Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 It's from the link about the carbon fiber deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaszenko Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On 8/19/2016 at 3:41 PM, pincushionman said: Who/where is that quote from? Link? The poster above me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman703 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Since it seems to be a hot issue, the stages do indeed clean up from landings real 'purdy, should they want them to look "fresh" for each flight(and I don't see why they wouldn't, unless its just to rub in the "this is a reused rocket!" part). http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/20/spacex-puts-historic-flown-rocket-on-permanent-display/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zucal Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I was at Hawthorne all day yesterday, plenty of DSLR shots. Highlights - Imgur Everything - Flickr Edited August 22, 2016 by Zucal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethon Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Orions' 2018 test heat shield arrives at KSC. http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/orion-heat-shield-for-exploration-mission-1-arrives-at-nasas-kennedy-space-center-in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 On August 7, 2016 at 11:27 AM, insert_name said: The US does not use biological or chemical weapons as they are hard to control and predict the effects of Not to mention nuclear for the same reason, they are a threat. The biggest post weapon cleanup was in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Aaaaand here we go: http://www.ses.com/4233325/news/2016/22407810 SpaceX just signed its first commercial customer to fly on a returned booster! Rocket reusability is now officially not just talk-and-test anymore SES hopes for October, SpaceX is more vague and just says "Q4 2016". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEpicSquared Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 53 minutes ago, Streetwind said: Aaaaand here we go: http://www.ses.com/4233325/news/2016/22407810 SpaceX just signed its first commercial customer to fly on a returned booster! Rocket reusability is now officially not just talk-and-test anymore SES hopes for October, SpaceX is more vague and just says "Q4 2016". YES YES YES Hopefully it goes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softweir Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I love the use of the phrase "flight-proven"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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