jandcando

[All Versions with KSPedia] Planet Wiki v4 - October 9, 2016

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I made a little "mod" that I have wanted in the game for a while now: Planet Wiki, a KSPedia-based mini-wiki that contains useful information regarding the planets such as science multipliers in different situations and the border between "In Space High" and "In Space Low." The kind of stuff you normally have to go to the KSP wiki to find. Here are its pages:

http://imgur.com/a/H3RdP

Download Links for Stock version (v4):

Spacedock

Curse

Dropbox

 

Links for Outer Planets Mod Edition (v3 page layouts):

Spacedock

Curse

Dropbox

 

So far the pages are populated with the following information:

  • A picture of the planet
  • Pictures of the planet's parent body and moons
  • The planet's in-game description
  • The science multiplier in different situations at the planet
  • The altitude border between different situations at the planet
  • Orbital Period
  • The planet's orbital inclination
  • Semi-major axis needed for synchronous orbit
  • The phase angle for optimal transfer
  • delta-v needed to (safely) get to the surface from Kerbin's surface
  • delta-v needed to land/take off
  • delta-v needed to escape
  • Surface gravity in g's
  • Height of the atmosphere
  • Number of biomes
  • The highest and lowest point on the surface, with their coordinates
  • The Sidereal day length
  • Efficiency of solar panels on planet's surface (as opposed to Kerbin's surface)
  • Minimum and maximum distances that the planets can be from Kerbin
  • Body Radius

(Moons are included, too!)

Advice on the actual design is something I'd be grateful for, since I don't want this to look like an unreadable mess. Please post any ideas below for information you sometimes need to know for your missions that isn't easily accessible/not available in the stock game. All suggestions are welcome! (I'm running out of page space tho)

If you like my work and want to support this project, donate! No amount is too small.

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Atmosphere height would be useful to avoid a decaying orbit and for aerobraking. Delta V to land escape too.

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1 hour ago, wasml said:

Atmosphere height would be useful to avoid a decaying orbit and for aerobraking. Delta V to land escape too.

I agree, a delta-v needed for takeoff/landing would be rather helpful to know. Atmospheric height can be read as the border between "Flying High" and "In Space Low", but I'll make a separate readout for it anyhow since it is a bit obscure at the moment.

Thanks for the feedback!

--EDIT

Alright, I added those two things to the template! I'm ready for more suggestions, like what should be put under "Surface Info?" I was thinking stuff like number of biomes?

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The number of biomes is probably good, though I'm not sure how you want to handle fake biomes like the Duna craters, or the repeat biomes like on Tylo. I would think that the actual biome names might not be a good idea, a lot of people might not want that information right away.

High and low points of the terrain might also be interesting.

Also, some advice about the layout, try putting some padding between the borders of the pages and the content. Text and images that run right up against the edge look a bit funny, and the blue grid background emphasizes this even more.

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On 6/4/2016 at 0:04 AM, DMagic said:

The number of biomes is probably good, though I'm not sure how you want to handle fake biomes like the Duna craters, or the repeat biomes like on Tylo. I would think that the actual biome names might not be a good idea, a lot of people might not want that information right away.

High and low points of the terrain might also be interesting.

Also, some advice about the layout, try putting some padding between the borders of the pages and the content. Text and images that run right up against the edge look a bit funny, and the blue grid background emphasizes this even more.

I really wanted to have a readout for the high and low points of terrain, but I don't really have a way to find that. The KSP wiki doesn't have that information for every planet. Could I use SCANsat to find these things?

Also, your advice on the layout is greatly appreciated! You can expect those tweaks in the next version. :)

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I think Kernel Maps has that info. You could also use SCANsat to export CSV files with the terrain data and find the min and max.

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15 hours ago, Waxing_Kibbous said:

How about adding optimal transfer positions/how to get there?

Sure thing! I'll put in the relative optimal phase angle to Kerbin and the delta-v needed to make the transfer.
 

OK! I made a new version of the pages with the tweaks/additions suggested by @DMagic and @Waxing_Kibbous!

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Hey @DMagic, do you have any idea how to convert the Kerbal Maps coordinates into latitude and longitude? There isn't much point in knowing the high/low points unless you know where they are. (They MIGHT already be that way and I'm just really stupid)

Disregard that message above, I figured it out.

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Here is an update on my progress so far:

I have a nice-looking template I'm using to make each page now, and I have pages completed for The Sun, Moho, Eve, Gilly, Kerbin, Mun, Minmus, Duna, and Ike. Here is a screenshot of Kerbin's finished page:

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I'm now working on the rest of the planets, which will take some time to finish. Download will be available soontm

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Nice - I'll be watching for the download.

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Alright, the download link is here!

Draft 1 of Planet Wiki: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rh5s38nmakcxxtw/PlanetWiki.zip?dl=0

Feedback on the layout would be welcome, too. I don't know if I should stick with the format of having the moons nested under their parent planets or not.

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This is absolutely amazing, though a few key pieces of information are missing, orbital period and altitude required for synchronous orbit would also be great information to have handy.

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44 minutes ago, Bob Jub said:

This is absolutely amazing, though a few key pieces of information are missing, orbital period and altitude required for synchronous orbit would also be great information to have handy.

I agree, altitude for synchronous orbit should definitely be in here. However, I'm not sure what good knowing the orbital period would do...

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1 hour ago, jandcando said:

I agree, altitude for synchronous orbit should definitely be in here. However, I'm not sure what good knowing the orbital period would do...

For example, in RemoteTech, you might want to keep your satilites at the Trojan Points and you don't want them to drift too far.

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@jandcando Do you think it would be possible for this mod to work with planet packs like OPM and IA-Revived? Maybe something like compatability patches.

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16 minutes ago, RA3236 said:

For example, in RemoteTech, you might want to keep your satilites at the Trojan Points and you don't want them to drift too far.

Oh, I see. I'll put that on my to-do list for the next version!

1 minute ago, ProtoJeb21 said:

@jandcando Do you think it would be possible for this mod to work with planet packs like OPM and IA-Revived? Maybe something like compatability patches.

Yeah over on Reddit, someone asked the same thing. I don't think an Outer Planets version of Planet Wiki is out of the question, I'll just have to familiarize myself with those planets (I've never played it before!). Also, could you tell me what IA-Revived is? I've never heard of it before.

All this reminds me, I should do one for Real Solar System!

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3 minutes ago, jandcando said:

Also, could you tell me what IA-Revived is?

It's Interstellar Adventure Revived. I don't often use the full name. The link to the mod is in my signature.

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1 minute ago, ProtoJeb21 said:

It's Interstellar Adventure Revived. I don't often use the full name. The link to the mod is in my signature.

Wow how have I not heard of that before? It looks amazing! So many planets and stars, though. That could take a long time to make pages for all of them, so I'll get back to you on that.

I love the Don Quixote references :D

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5 minutes ago, jandcando said:

I love the Don Quixote references :D

Thank the IAU (for once). I incorporated the entire Mu Arae system, which they named in December with the NameExoWorlds campaign. The moons of the planets follow very similar naming conventions that the star and planets went through.

Anyways, I'm wondering how you were able to make this mod as an extension to KSPedia. It may be something I would like to try out in the future with one of my smaller mods.

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Just now, ProtoJeb21 said:

Anyways, I'm wondering how you were able to make this mod as an extension to KSPedia. It may be something I would like to try out in the future with one of my smaller mods.

@DMagic made a wonderful tutorial on creating KSPedia entries. Follow it, and you'll be on the road to making them yourself in no time!

 

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@jandcando May I suggest a version number and date of last change in the thread header - makes it easier to spot updates.

 

Edit: Just spotted a page where DMagic is collecting/creating an index of KSPedia pages - You might want to add yours to the list.

 

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15 hours ago, wasml said:

Edit: Just spotted a page where DMagic is collecting/creating an index of KSPedia pages - You might want to add yours to the list.

 

I already posted about it there. I think DMagic is a little busy at the moment.

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Alright, I'm working on the second version. I'm moving the atmospheric height and delta-v to take off/land to the "Surface Info" column, and I'm adding readouts for orbital period, semi-major axis needed for synchronous orbit, g at surface, % effectiveness of solar panels on the planet's surface compared to at Kerbin, and length of a (sidereal!) day on the planet.

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Planet Wiki v2 is complete! As always, tips for the next version are welcome. Just keep in mind, that the pages are a bit full now. I can probably make space for like one or two more things, but I feel pretty good about the info that's in there right now.

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