Norcalplanner Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, Gilph said: You didn't mention if you have radiators on your vessel. I believe they are needed. I have a Thalia lander en route, but it may be a few days before I get there. I have landed on Eta without the need to deploy radiators, but Thalia is a different animal. Also pay attention to the heat rating of your probe parts. Use as many 2000K parts as you can, and include several TCS on your craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG5BPilot Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 You can definitely land on Thalia -- even set up a permanent base. But you'll need sufficient radiators to cool everything down. I believe if you're using Kerbalism (I don't anymore), there should be some Kerbalism specific challenges you'll also need to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkvi Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, AG5BPilot said: You can definitely land on Thalia -- even set up a permanent base. But you'll need sufficient radiators to cool everything down. I believe if you're using Kerbalism (I don't anymore), there should be some Kerbalism specific challenges you'll also need to deal with. Is this intended? It seems like radiators should not actually work to cool probes/bases on Thalia, since they should just be sinks for getting the same radiative heat into the vessel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOfMaar Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, larkvi said: Is this intended? It seems like radiators should not actually work to cool probes/bases on Thalia, since they should just be sinks for getting the same radiative heat into the vessel. Radiators work very basically in KSP. They suck the heat out of other parts on the craft. They dissipate that heat. They only work in vacuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePounds Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, larkvi said: Is this intended? It seems like radiators should not actually work to cool probes/bases on Thalia, since they should just be sinks for getting the same radiative heat into the vessel. I've been thinking about this too. But as long as the radiators are much hotter than the environment, the laws of thermodynamics aren't violated. It's basically like a fridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse-Lacey Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Well, looks like future missions will be adding some radiators to the ships. Honestly though, it's kind of a low priority planet. It yields nice amounts of science, but it has little else to offer. The gas giants and their atmospheric moons look like some very nice targets for future manned missions. Edited September 21, 2017 by Jesse-Lacey L2Spellcheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePounds Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) How does one localize the KSPedia of GPP? I think I have seen other mods made localization aliases (#LOCxxx...) available for those - or I am dreaming? Do I have to compile them myself? Edited September 21, 2017 by Three_Pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Three_Pounds said: How does one localize the KSPedia of GPP? I think I have seen other mods made localization aliases (#LOCxxx...) available for those - or I am dreaming? Do I have to compile them myself? Well, since the KSPedia pages are images, you won't be able to translate them without recreating them as far as I know. I have not looked into whether they can be translated otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePounds Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Galileo said: Well, since the KSPedia pages are images, you won't be able to translate them without recreating them as far as I know. I have not looked into whether they can be translated otherwise Where can I find the source files for those? Or are they ARR? EDIT: I see that there is a branch for them in the github repo. But I have no clue what the hell I am looking at. Looks like I would really have to recompile to whole thing to translate it. EDIT2: But that won't automatically set the appropriate KSPedia version. Looks like to make this work properly, @Poodmund would have to add localization support to the KSPedia. Is that an option? I found this mod has a localized KSPedia so maybe you can have a look how it's done? Edited September 21, 2017 by Three_Pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodmund Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Three_Pounds said: EDIT2: But that won't automatically set the appropriate KSPedia version. Looks like to make this work properly, @Poodmund would have to add localization support to the KSPedia. Is that an option? I found this mod has a localized KSPedia so maybe you can have a look how it's done? I honestly have no idea how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilph Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 7:49 PM, Gilph said: Hmmmm...I went to rescue Valentina in orbit around Thalia. The pod was empty. I dont see her as a casuality in the Complex and she does not show up in the persist file or the logs. Maybe has something to do with being one of the stock original four that I replaced with the new names, but I did rescue Jeb in Iota. Any thoughts? Edit1: just checked the contract. It now says "rescue from orbit of Thalia" and the contract text says "Test test test test" Odd item #2: Went to visit my Niven Station with a science lab, manned by scientist Cerphia Gaelan. I got a message saying science research had stopped because Cerphia is now an engineer. She is also an applicant, not crew, with her flight logs all reset to an applicant's setting. I was able to restore her settings from a save a week ago. This is the second really odd thing since I rescued Jebediah the engineer a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalplanner Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Jesse-Lacey said: Well, looks like future missions will be adding some radiators to the ships. Honestly though, it's kind of a low priority planet. It yields nice amounts of science, but it has little else to offer. The gas giants and their atmospheric moons look like some very nice targets for future manned missions. If you're running any mods which include hard-to-find resources (such as Karborundum) then Thalia's appeal may increase. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOfMaar Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Something big is coming to GPP......... Very big. Spoiler What? Again? Edited September 21, 2017 by JadeOfMaar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma88 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, JadeOfMaar said: Something big is coming to GPP......... Very big. Reveal hidden contents What? Again? Balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, Sigma88 said: Balls In... space..? BRB, suddenly have great idea for a movie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilph Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 1:20 PM, OhioBob said: The 1220 m/s on the ∆v map is definitely on the low side, but I ran through years worth of encounters using Transfer Window Planner and I didn't get anything approaching the ~2,500 m/s that @linecrafter talked about, or even the 2,200 m/s that you budget. I didn't keep notes, but it seems to me that the orbit insertion ∆v was usually about 1600-1700 m/s for a "good" encounter. (That is, if we throw out the really bad ones and take a median of what remains.) Of course that's orbit insertion, not capture. The ∆v map budgets 350 m/s to go from capture to low orbit. So that means the ∆v for capture should probably be about 1,300 m/s. If you guys are getting capture ∆v >2,000 m/s, then you must have picked a bad launch window, or somehow maneuvered yourselves into a poor encounter. So, it looks like I'm not very careful with my Pe. I had 3 ships arrive at Thalia with good transfer trajectories: at 3 million Pe, burn was 2417 to capture at 5m Pe, burn was 2416 at 200k, burn was 1883 The deltav maps show a 15k Pe. I have been actually sending vessels to Eta, so I've not cared very much about the tight Thalia Pe on approach, but it does save a lot of deltav when you do. @OhioBob, thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThreePounds Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Quote #LOC_GPP_decals_textureDisplayNames35 = Black #LOC_GPP_decals_textureDisplayNames36 = Red #LOC_GPP_decals_textureDisplayNames37 = White As a German, this is slightly concerning. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfhe1m Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Three_Pounds said: As a German, this is slightly concerning. Nah, it's a subliminal message to visit Trinidad and Tobago Spoiler or maybe Holland? Spoiler or join the rebels? Spoiler Or be a pirate? Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePounds Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Quote #LOC_GPP_Planets_Biome_IslandGulleysDisplayName = Island Gulleys Pardon my English, but shouldn't it be "Gullies"? Oh, nvm. It's an alternative form. Edited September 22, 2017 by Three_Pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOfMaar Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Aelfhe1m said: Nah, it's a subliminal message to visit Trinidad and Tobago You found me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalplanner Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, JadeOfMaar said: You found me. So that's where the rum has gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKerbBarnes Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Is it normal if the normal solar system still appears, and there is no KSC on Gael? Just a few questions, for a few bugs in my game. I can't spawn at the Gael KSC, it brings me to Kerbin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BigKerbBarnes said: Is it normal if the normal solar system still appears, and there is no KSC on Gael? Just a few questions, for a few bugs in my game. I can't spawn at the Gael KSC, it brings me to Kerbin. Did you install GPP_Secondary? Because that is exactly what GPP_Secondary does. From the install instructions: GPP Secondary This new addon mod makes GPP into a distant non-primary system Edited September 22, 2017 by Galileo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKerbBarnes Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Galileo said: Did you install GPP_Secondary? Because that is exactly what GPP_Secondary does. From the install instructions: GPP Secondary This new addon mod makes GPP into a distant non-primary system Oh, I guess I was blind and dumb, well thanks for letting me know. Keep doing things like this mod, I enjoy every mod you make, great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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