[1.12.x] - Modular Kolonization System (MKS)

[RoverDude]

14 hours ago, Planefan 08 said:

Hmm...I really hope that some day they'd make USI compatible with 1.6.1. None of the other mods have it either, but man the stock parts revamp and built-in dV indicators are very very tempting

umm... it's compatible today

[RookFett]

On 1/14/2019 at 8:37 PM, infinite_monkey said:

I seem to have a (understanding?) problem with the Scout Landing Module. It has a workshop, I can open the workshop window, but when I want to start manufacturing, it says "No workers in the workshop". Where does my engineer have to be in order to make it work? Is there a minimum star-rating the engineer needs?

I noticed that also - no where to put a kerbal in it and it doesn't stack when you place a command can or workshop on it.

16 hours ago, Planefan 08 said:

Hmm...I really hope that some day they'd make USI compatible with 1.6.1. None of the other mods have it either, but man the stock parts revamp and built-in dV indicators are very very tempting

As others have noted - it does work - I am using 1.6.1 right now with USI/MKS.

 

[TackleMcClean]

On 1/18/2019 at 10:02 PM, Planefan 08 said:

Hmm...I really hope that some day they'd make USI compatible with 1.6.1. None of the other mods have it either, but man the stock parts revamp and built-in dV indicators are very very tempting

As others have mentioned it already is compatible. You might get some messages about incompatibility but it still works.

I know there's at least one bug I'm waiting for a fix for (or hoping that it's related rather, it's not a confirmed bug) - recyclers resetting themselves when returning focus to a vessel.
Not sure if there are any other issues currently, but I'd say as for 1.6.1 compatibility, it's very playable already today. Just do it™ - download and play!

[AwesomeDude3664]

On the thumbnail, there looks to be a command pod that resembles the "Hermes" from The Martian. What is it called, since I can't seem to find it anywhere?

[Planefan 08]

Oh, it is compatible! Thanks! 

Also, I'm sorry if my message came across as impatient.

[RoverDude]

3 hours ago, AwesomeDude3664 said:

On the thumbnail, there looks to be a command pod that resembles the "Hermes" from The Martian. What is it called, since I can't seem to find it anywhere?

That's an Orca, from FTT

[AwesomeDude3664]

1 hour ago, RoverDude said:

That's an Orca, from FTT

Okay, thanks!

[TackleMcClean]

@RoverDude

Do you have any idea if there's something else I could try to make the recyclers not turn themselves off when leaving vessel focus? Using latest constellation here, on 1.5.1.

[Jasseji]

On 6/22/2017 at 11:11 PM, Aelfhe1m said:

Can confirm this also happens with KSP 1.3, MKS 0.52.1 (latest constellation download with updated USI Tools 0.9.2) and JSIAdvTransparentPods 0.1.14

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Also some of the MKS parts are showing transparency cutaways by default where they shouldn't (e.g. the Tundra agriculture modules). I'm working my way through the parts to compile a complete list. Done - see below

The ag module can be patched to disable transparent pods by adding:

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@PART[Tundra_Agriculture*]:NEEDS[MKS,JSIAdvTransparentPods]       
{         
	MODULE         
	{         
		name = JSIAdvTransparentPod
		transparentPodSetting = OFF
	}         
}  

 

Edit: so far most Tundra parts seem to have the unwanted transparency issue - probably because of the placeholder interiors being autodetected by jsi?

Edit2: Finished checking all the USI parts.

• Duna and Ranger parts are OK (non-transparent).
• Otter cab has same issue as Karibou.
• Malemute, Honeybadger. AES, HERP and all passenger cabs have no issues (no transparencies).

Hello, just a small catch-up, was this ever adressed ? i can see the glitch as well with 1.5.1 and JSIATP

[RoverDude]

6 hours ago, Jasseji said:

Hello, just a small catch-up, was this ever adressed ? i can see the glitch as well with 1.5.1 and JSIATP

I use generic IVAs for a lot of that stuff... so until pretty IVAs are made, it's going to be a thing (unless you get rid of the IVA in the config... then no portraits).

[Infleto]

Editing the MKS LS config file

Hey, I am trying to edit the MKS config file to double hab time.  I edited both the Life support config file and the MKS config file.  But in game the GUI shows the same hab time for all parts.

[RoverDude]

18 minutes ago, Infleto said:

Editing the MKS LS config file

Hey, I am trying to edit the MKS config file to double hab time.  I edited both the Life support config file and the MKS config file.  But in game the GUI shows the same hab time for all parts.

The config is only a default.  To change it you need to do it in the GUI in the space center scene

[Infleto]

2 minutes ago, RoverDude said:

The config is only a default.  To change it you need to do it in the GUI in the space center scene

OMG What is this Witch Craft!

[Jasseji]

6 hours ago, RoverDude said:

I use generic IVAs for a lot of that stuff... so until pretty IVAs are made, it's going to be a thing (unless you get rid of the IVA in the config... then no portraits).

oh, sorry, i was already falling asleep when writing this - i am actually referring to the Karibou Cockpit which is showing the complete IVA (completely without the outer Hull as the other person posted)  when TransparentPods is installed.

 

In VAB/SPH though, the view is correct (so you see the hull and the IVA through the transparent windows)

[Kermanzooming]

Weird thing happening to me;

• Fresh install of KSP 1.6.1
• No other mods
• Latest USI Constellation mod

On the VAB, can't configure the bays of any of the MKS modules:

While on my other installation (same USI Constellation, KSP 1.4.5) everything looks perfectly:

KSP throws some warnings and errors into the log:

[WRN 16:37:30.908] Cannot create config from file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\UmbraSpaceIndustries\LifeSupport\Resources.cfg'.

Any idea of what is missing?

 

[elijahlorden]

You are not missing anything.  The other options you see in the previous version are provided by additional mods.  If you only installed USI you will be missing mods like KIS, which provides the 'Seat # inventory' options.

[Terwin]

 

2 hours ago, elijahlorden said:

You are not missing anything.  The other options you see in the previous version are provided by additional mods.  If you only installed USI you will be missing mods like KIS, which provides the 'Seat # inventory' options.

Not all of them: Auto-strut, Fuel Flow, and Rigid attachment are 'Advanced tweakables' and part of the core game, they can be turned on in settings.

Edited January 28, 2019 by Terwin
clarify Advanced Twekables are stock

[Kermanzooming]

17 hours ago, elijahlorden said:

You are not missing anything.  The other options you see in the previous version are provided by additional mods.  If you only installed USI you will be missing mods like KIS, which provides the 'Seat # inventory' options.

Yes, you are right; dumb from my side not noticing.

But then the question shifts to: shouldn't I be able to configure the bays of the Tundra Assembly Plant while in the VAB? I'm also not getting any information about the ratios for resources conversion...

[RookFett]

9 hours ago, Kermanzooming said:

Yes, you are right; dumb from my side not noticing.

But then the question shifts to: shouldn't I be able to configure the bays of the Tundra Assembly Plant while in the VAB? I'm also not getting any information about the ratios for resources conversion...

It maybe caused by firesplitter not being installed correctly - can you share a screen shot of your gamedata directory?  (could also be USI tools install)

Edited January 29, 2019 by RookFett

[Kermanzooming]

2 hours ago, RookFett said:

can you share a screen shot of your gamedata directory?

Solved! In the GameData/UmbraSpaceIndustries/MKS/Parts folder there was a folder called 'New Folder', with what looked to be additional copies of the parts. Once deleted, everything works like a charm.

So be careful; if you download the USI Constellation package, be sure  to delete that rogue extra folder.

 

Thanks to @RookFett, @terwin and @elijahlorden for the support!

[Loren Pechtel]

What am I missing in attempting to configure the industrial and assembly plants?

I'm looking at the chart in the documentation that shows the resource flow.  For example, the putting it together page shows the industrial plant converting metallic ore into metals.  However, I can't find any setting on the industrial bays that takes an input of metallic ore and most of the conversions I can find don't make sense.

(The drill also lists conversions rather than just what it's harvesting but in that case it still seems to harvest what was on the left, the conversion doesn't seem to mean anything.)

KSP 1.4.5

[lBoBl]

So, I've heard rumors about an upcoming overhaul to the whole MKS collection, is there any truth to it or was I just dreaming ?

[RookFett]

4 hours ago, lBoBl said:

So, I've heard rumors about an upcoming overhaul to the whole MKS collection, is there any truth to it or was I just dreaming ?

truth

[Terwin]

13 hours ago, Loren Pechtel said:

What am I missing in attempting to configure the industrial and assembly plants?

I'm looking at the chart in the documentation that shows the resource flow.  For example, the putting it together page shows the industrial plant converting metallic ore into metals.  However, I can't find any setting on the industrial bays that takes an input of metallic ore and most of the conversions I can find don't make sense.

(The drill also lists conversions rather than just what it's harvesting but in that case it still seems to harvest what was on the left, the conversion doesn't seem to mean anything.)

KSP 1.4.5

The drills don't do 'conversions' the bit with the two resources with an arrow between them is for switching the harvest/production type.  The same interface is used to change the production type of other parts as well.  

The one on the left is current, and the one on the right is what you get if you change it(it costs resources to swap, so you want to make sure you only need to do it once)

The Smelt-O-Matic, Industrial Refinery, and Material Processing Units are what you can use to turn metal ore into metals(depending on which resource each bay is set to refine).

The Assembly Plant and Workshop are used to turn those refined resources into useful materials(like material kits or Machinery).

 

So, to produce metals, you would want your Drill set to metallic ore, and your smelter/refinery/mpu set to Metals to consume metallic ore and produce metals.

For example, to produce material kits, you would need Minerals, Metallic Ore, and Substrate produced from your drills, which in turn would be fed to a refinery to produce Chemicals, Metal, and Polymers, which you could then feed into your assembly plant to make material kits.

Sifters can also produce all of the raw materials at the same time(from Dirt) but at a greatly reduced rate.

 

 

[Loren Pechtel]

42 minutes ago, Terwin said:

The drills don't do 'conversions' the bit with the two resources with an arrow between them is for switching the harvest/production type.  The same interface is used to change the production type of other parts as well.  

The one on the left is current, and the one on the right is what you get if you change it(it costs resources to swap, so you want to make sure you only need to do it once)

The Smelt-O-Matic, Industrial Refinery, and Material Processing Units are what you can use to turn metal ore into metals(depending on which resource each bay is set to refine).

The Assembly Plant and Workshop are used to turn those refined resources into useful materials(like material kits or Machinery).

 

So, to produce metals, you would want your Drill set to metallic ore, and your smelter/refinery/mpu set to Metals to consume metallic ore and produce metals.

For example, to produce material kits, you would need Minerals, Metallic Ore, and Substrate produced from your drills, which in turn would be fed to a refinery to produce Chemicals, Metal, and Polymers, which you could then feed into your assembly plant to make material kits.

Sifters can also produce all of the raw materials at the same time(from Dirt) but at a greatly reduced rate.

 

 

Ok, that makes a **lot** more sense.  It's a very confusing interface, though!