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On 10/3/2020 at 6:08 PM, Jim123 said:

Your smoke screen RO link doesn't work

RO smokescreen is only used for KSP 1.7.3. For any earlier or later versions of KSP just use regular smokescreen from the normal thread. You can get the link yourself easily.

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Why am I crashing? I thought maybe memory usage but its not that much, i already downgraded from 16k to 8k textures but nothing.

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Kerbal Space Program by Squad [version: Unity 2019.2.2f1_ab112815d860]

Unknown caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
  in module Unknown at 0033:88fd85e6.

Error occurred at 2020-10-06_125810.
Unknown, run by Charlie.

32% physical memory in use.
16321 MB physical memory [11085 MB free].
20947 MB process peak paging file [1 MB used].
10227 MB process peak working set [1 MB used].
System Commit Total/Limit/Peak: 10012MB/51137MB/48043MB
System Physical Total/Available: 16321MB/11085MB
System Process Count: 190
System Thread Count: 2854
System Handle Count: 97541
Disk space data for 'C:\Users\Charlie\AppData\Local\Temp\Squad\Kerbal Space Program\Crashes\Crash_2020-10-06_115647836\': 187826987008 bytes free of 449419669504 total.

Read from location 00000246CEE9FCE7 caused an access violation.

Context:
RDI:    0x0000000000000000  RSI: 0x000002473f7643a0  RAX:   0x0000000000000000
RBX:    0x0000000000000001  RCX: 0x00000246cee9fc90  RDX:   0x0000000000000000
RIP:    0x00007ffb88fd85e6  RBP: 0x000000d01b30e5f0  SegCs: 0x0000000000000033
EFlags: 0x0000000000010206  RSP: 0x000000d01b30e590  SegSs: 0x000000000000002b
R8:     0x00007ffb882e0000  R9:  0xfffffffffffffff0  R10:   0x00000000000f9ca0
R11:    0x000000d01b30e550  R12: 0x0000000000000000  R13:   0x0000000000000001
R14:    0x0000000000002255  R15: 0x000002430b57e060


Bytes at CS:EIP:
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? 

Mono DLL loaded successfully at 'C:\Users\Charlie\Desktop\v1.8.1 CLEAN\MonoBleedingEdge\EmbedRuntime\mono-2.0-bdwgc.dll'.


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Crash Report configuration:
 * App Name: Kerbal Space Program
 * App Version: Unity 2019.2.2f1_ab112815d860
 * Mono DLL: C:\Users\Charlie\Desktop\v1.8.1 CLEAN\MonoBleedingEdge\EmbedRuntime\mono-2.0-bdwgc.dll
 * Bug Reporter App Path: 
 * Crash Report Path: C:\Users\Charlie\AppData\Local\Temp\Squad\Kerbal Space Program\Crashes
 * Is Editor: false

Crash Report metadata:
 * 'ClientReportID' = 'bf1462eeb31d9cb439e3f3a22ec72938'
 * 'PerformanceReportingEndpoint' = 'https://perf-events.cloud.unity3d.com/api/v2/projects/39811e89-d29d-4faa-bb01-997f3cda24f0/reports'
 * 'ReportJson' = '{"app_build":"","install_mode":"","install_store":"","name":"Squad.Kerbal Space Program","version":"1.8.1","build_guid":"2b86e934348a72d41bcb9010c548d9d3","build_tags":[],"client_report_id":"bf1462eeb31d9cb439e3f3a22ec72938","client_ts":1601974875276,"userid":"60f51779e6a442d42b4a4c0d2ad5f07e","debug_device":false,"cpu":"AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor ","cpu_count":12,"cpu_freq":3394,"device_info_flags":2198042570,"rooted_or_jailbroken":false,"device_model":"Tornado R5 (PC Specialist LTD)","device_ram":16320,"screen_size":"1920 x 1080","screen_dpi":96,"refresh_rate":280,"sensor_flags":144,"system_language":"en","device_type":3,"device_vram":8012,"enabled_vr_devices":[],"gpu_api":2,"gpu_caps":8354815,"gpu_copy_texture_support":31,"gpu_device_id":7812,"gpu_vendor_id":4318,"gpu_driver":"","gpu_max_cubemap_size":16384,"gpu_max_texture_size":16384,"gfx":"NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER","gpu_render_texture_support":511,"gpu_shader_caps":50,"gpu_supported_render_target_count":8,"gpu_texture_format_support":915,"gpu_vendor":"NVIDIA","gpu_version":"Direct3D 11.0 [level 11.1]","is_editor":false,"is_fullscreen":true,"is_wsar_remote":false,"is_ar_app":false,"localprojectid":"5be2ef0cdad9b1344ae103b0d475456b","os_family":2,"os":"Windows 10  (10.0.0) 64bit","platform":"WindowsPlayer","platformid":2,"appid":"39811e89-d29d-4faa-bb01-997f3cda24f0","screen_orientation":1,"scripting_backend":"Mono","sessionid":624140153143689764,"sdk_ver":"2019.2.2f1","sdk_ver_full":"2019.2.2f1_ab112815d860","vr_device_name":"","vr_device_model":"","counter":1,"log_messages":[],"user_metadata":[]}'

Additional report files:
 * "C:\Users\Charlie\AppData\LocalLow\Squad\Kerbal Space Program\Player.log" (Output log file)

== [end of error.log] ==
 

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  • 3 weeks later...
On 10/22/2020 at 4:32 AM, KnedlikMCPE said:

Hey guys, sorry if anyone already asked, but how do I make RO patches for part mods?

There is no universal guide. You learn by looking at someone's existing patches and figuring it out yourself. It's how everyone else learns it. Start simple and work your way up.

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hello is it possible that the engines with their various configurations from the "Engine_Configs" that I can select in the VAB? With their respective settings?

If yes how?

Thanks in advance.
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In 1.8.1, the Sohae launch site (in the DPRK) is floating quite high in the air (the phenomenon is hard to see well in a static screenshot, but the shadow is visible in the background). Other launch sites I've checked don't have this issue, though I have not checked every single site.

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Hi just wanted to ask if there are any RO configs for this mod because there isn't many mods for Soyuz TMA in RO. Unfortunately I have no experience in making configs for RO but when I have time, might start learning how to do it.

Thanks

Edit 1: Nevermind, apparently there is RO configs for the mod.

 

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Hi!

What are the recommended to ideal system specifications for Realism Overhaul, RP-1, along with the most recommended mods to go along with it?(Procedural Fuel Tanks, Procedural Wings, etc.)

In addition, what are the lowest specifications required to run the game smoothly? (No lag, etc.)

Thanks!

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4 hours ago, AeroSky said:

What are the recommended to ideal system specifications for Realism Overhaul, RP-1, along with the most recommended mods to go along with it?(Procedural Fuel Tanks, Procedural Wings, etc.)

In addition, what are the lowest specifications required to run the game smoothly? (No lag, etc.)

I feel like this is an almost impossible question for the mod devs or any of the rest of us to answer, but I can provide you an anecdote of my recent experiences. 

My system is a 3.6GHz i7-4790 with an NVidia GTX 770, 32GBs of RAM, and a mix of nice SSDs. I'm running Windows 10 and KSP v1.8.1 with RSS/RO/RP-0 using the 16k RSS textures, Principia, Scatterer, RSSVE (or whatever the current cloud/etc pack is named), FAR, the usual bevy of mods such as all of Near Future, RaiderNick's stuff, the RO ships/capsules/etc, a handful of other parts mods and who really knows what else. Most of the KSP graphics settings are all at their highest aside from aero effects, which have never worked well for me. Usually the game is running at 2048x1152 in borderless-windowed mode on a dual-monitor setup (total desktop area of 4096x1152).

It takes something that feels like ten minutes for the game to start and for modules to be managed, but once running I have no issues that aren't common to everybody else. I have minimal framerate loss at launch, the time scale firmly in the "yellow" range, but that's increasingly true for bone-stock KSP too. The only real issue I've encountered is memory usage. Either the game or Unity or Windows or something gets to be very unhappy when KSP goes over 24GB and... it just goes away. No "crash" in the typical sense, just... gets OOM'd and disappears. As a result I had to stop using a few resource-intensive parts and texture mods (which shall remain nameless because it's not their fault) and scale back my aspirations of Using All The Mods. I found a happy middle ground that works quite well.  

My gameplay is pretty smooth, both with basic RSS/RO/RP0 and all the added parts mods. I'm not sure I'd recommend much less than what I'm using though, aside from possibly a slightly older GPU in exchange for lower-res textures. I _think_ a basic RSS/RO/RP0 setup might be ok on 8GB. 16GB should definitely be enough for most cases.

Your mileage will vary. 

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hey guys i need help so im following the install guide and up to point 10. everything works fine ive tested it and all is good, now the second part to get the Additional Mods,
so i select everymod thats listed, i press on Apply changes then i get to the next tab" changeset" and it tells me that everything will be removed and the new stuff is gonna be added, i dont know how to combat this its driving me crazy and the guide says nothing about this so please i need help !

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22 hours ago, Cydonian Monk said:

I feel like this is an almost impossible question for the mod devs or any of the rest of us to answer, but I can provide you an anecdote of my recent experiences. 

My system is a 3.6GHz i7-4790 with an NVidia GTX 770, 32GBs of RAM, and a mix of nice SSDs. I'm running Windows 10 and KSP v1.8.1 with RSS/RO/RP-0 using the 16k RSS textures, Principia, Scatterer, RSSVE (or whatever the current cloud/etc pack is named), FAR, the usual bevy of mods such as all of Near Future, RaiderNick's stuff, the RO ships/capsules/etc, a handful of other parts mods and who really knows what else. Most of the KSP graphics settings are all at their highest aside from aero effects, which have never worked well for me. Usually the game is running at 2048x1152 in borderless-windowed mode on a dual-monitor setup (total desktop area of 4096x1152).

It takes something that feels like ten minutes for the game to start and for modules to be managed, but once running I have no issues that aren't common to everybody else. I have minimal framerate loss at launch, the time scale firmly in the "yellow" range, but that's increasingly true for bone-stock KSP too. The only real issue I've encountered is memory usage. Either the game or Unity or Windows or something gets to be very unhappy when KSP goes over 24GB and... it just goes away. No "crash" in the typical sense, just... gets OOM'd and disappears. As a result I had to stop using a few resource-intensive parts and texture mods (which shall remain nameless because it's not their fault) and scale back my aspirations of Using All The Mods. I found a happy middle ground that works quite well.  

My gameplay is pretty smooth, both with basic RSS/RO/RP0 and all the added parts mods. I'm not sure I'd recommend much less than what I'm using though, aside from possibly a slightly older GPU in exchange for lower-res textures. I _think_ a basic RSS/RO/RP0 setup might be ok on 8GB. 16GB should definitely be enough for most cases.

Your mileage will vary. 

I can see that you have vastly better specifications than I have (at the moment). My specs are Intel Core i5-2520M 2.50GHz, I don't know what graphics card I have, and I have 8GB of RAM (I have 416GB of hard drive space [not sure if its called that]). Will I be able to run RSS/RO/RP-1 with the recommended mods smoothly, with lag, or not possible, etc.?

P.S. I have a lot of lag when I try to run Scatterer and EVE, so I won't be using any graphics mod for the time being.

P.S. # 2 If I can run RSS/RO/RP-1 (somehwhat) smoothly (20-30fps?), what textures do you recommend, and can we run RSS without any textures (or at least the one that doesn't create huge amounts of lag)?

Thanks!

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4 minutes ago, AeroSky said:

Will I be able to run RSS/RO/RP-1 with the recommended mods smoothly, with lag, or not possible, etc.?

I think it's possible, but what we define as smooth is up to interpretation. 

The recommended mods? I'm assuming we're talking about Procedural Parts, fairings, etc. from the list up in the first post of this thread, and not whatever RP-0 might recommend. Most of them, very probably, will work perfectly well. Most of the RO recommendeds/requireds are really just plugins, and while some of them may be math heavy, they don't hit performance all that much. (Principia might be an exception, but you can tune it fairly well to work on less performant systems.... Just don't expect to ever see orbital predictions for more than a couple months out.)

Where you'll likely have issues are mods with fancy shaders or higher-resolution/larger textures. Avoiding scatterer and EVE is a good place to start, but anything with reflections might also be an issue.

Best way to find out is to download the core pieces of RSS/RO and see if it works (or use CKAN of that's your preferred method). With your specs I'd recommend trying the 4k RSS textures to start, and if those don't work well for you fall back to the 2k ones. (You do have to use one of the RSS texture packs, otherwise the planets will not load correctly.) 

Only after you've got RSS/RO working would I bother with RP0 and any other mods.

FWIW, I used to run RSS/RO/RP-0 on a 13" laptop with some rather abysmal specs. It's an interesting enough challenge and experience that it's worth taking a bit of a performance hit. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, AeroSky said:

Hi!

Do Procedural Parts, Fuel Tanks, Avionics and all the procedural things (I think B9 Procedural Wings, also?) work without RSS/RO/RP-1? (As in we can use them in stock or JNSQ, perhaps?)

Thanks!

Yes. Procedural Parts, Fairings and B9 Procedural Wings do not depend on RO, there just maintained by the KSP-RO Team. Keep in mind that avionics is a feature of RP-1 not of any Proc Parts mod.

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On 12/1/2020 at 4:19 AM, anothernormalplayer said:

Hey, i have KSP 1.8.1, i want to download this mod on Ckan. But it doesn't let me (even though it says that the mod is compatible with 1.7.x and 1.8.x), and i can't find a link where i can report this to get some help. Could someone help me please?

Have you followed the install directions?  https://github.com/KSP-RO/RP-0/wiki/RO-&-RP-1-Installation-for-1.8.1

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On 11/25/2020 at 8:12 PM, Omnipius said:

With Kopernicus and RSS both supporting 1.9.1 now, should we be expecting an RO update in the near future? Or is the plan to just wait for them to catch up to 1.10.x?

RO is ready to release. I plan to put a release out as soon as Deadly Reentry and Real Fuels are officially updated for 1.9.x. They currently work but give version warnings on load and won't show up in CKAN so I want them marked as compatible first. As for 1.10.x that is completely on Kopernicus and the 10 or so other mods that aren't updated for it yet.

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16 hours ago, raidernick said:

RO is ready to release. I plan to put a release out as soon as Deadly Reentry and Real Fuels are officially updated for 1.9.x. They currently work but give version warnings on load and won't show up in CKAN so I want them marked as compatible first. As for 1.10.x that is completely on Kopernicus and the 10 or so other mods that aren't updated for it yet.

tell them to hurry up and update, i just started playing and im waiting on this mod 

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