totm nov 2023 SpaceX Discussion Thread

[Xd the great]

27 minutes ago, ThatGuyWithALongUsername said:

Also WOAH does that mean they expect to get the top bulkhead installed and the two halves put together in a WEEK?!

 

I am no expert on this, but my kerbal sense tells me that if they can do that with water towers, they can do the same with starship.

[Ultimate Steve]

Maybe they will ship it in a few pieces?

[ThatGuyWithALongUsername]

52 minutes ago, Xd the great said:

I am no expert on this, but my kerbal sense tells me that if they can do that with water towers, they can do the same with starship.

Agreed, really. But that doesn't make it any less insane to think about!

My burning question is whether or not they'll actually get the fins and legs on there?

[kerbiloid]

Spoiler

1 hour ago, Xd the great said:

I am no expert on this, but my kerbal sense tells me that if they can do that with water towers, they can do the same with starship.

Actually, there is no difference between a water tower and a ship. Just the former keeps water inside, the latter - outside.

 

[Xd the great]

36 minutes ago, ThatGuyWithALongUsername said:

My burning question is whether or not they'll actually get the fins and legs on there?

Doubt it. Maybe Mk2 is for engine tests (to see what happens when you light 7/31 raptors) and Mk1 is for reentry test?

[Josh IN SPACE]

16 hours ago, Racescort666 said:

Iron Maiden is the coolest metal band ever. 

ETA: my handle is partially inspired by an Iron Maiden song.

Perhaps invited to see if anyone was interested in the Dear Moon project with Yusaku? He was in a band once.

Moonchild 2 confirmed?

[tater]

 

Related to them wanting to move Mk2 to KSC:

 

[tater]

Hehe:

 

[.50calBMG]

15 minutes ago, tater said:

Hehe:

 

Been a while since I've wanted to like something this much

[mikegarrison]

29 minutes ago, tater said:

 

Wow, it hit so hard it buried itself into the ground.

[CatastrophicFailure]

4 minutes ago, mikegarrison said:

Wow, it hit so hard it buried itself into the ground.

This is why they plan to land on water. The capsule has difficulty floating on land. 

[mikegarrison]

3 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

This is why they plan to land on water. The capsule has difficulty floating on land. 

Makes sense.

Also allows their astronauts to take off their clothes and go swimming.

 

[kerbiloid]

Spoiler

 

[tater]

16 minutes ago, mikegarrison said:

Wow, it hit so hard it buried itself into the ground.

LOL.

Maybe the AF could use it as a penetrator.

[tater]

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/what-happens-when-spacex-moves-in-next-door-where-the-hell-do-i-go-now/

[mikegarrison]

It does seem like the Boca Chica deal was something of a bait-and-switch. When they first moved there, it was under the condition that there would be no more than 12 launches a year, only one of which would be at night.

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"They determined what they are going to pay us for our homes and they give us a two-week deadline to decide," Johnson said. "I am not going to be bullied into selling under their conditions."

Pointer said the offers did not account for the unique wilderness and view of Boca Chica, which sits less than 2 miles from a public beach, was peaceful and quiet before SpaceX arrived, and is surrounded by thousands of acres of coastal, bird-filled wildlife refuge. She also says a handful of families do not have the financial means, even with a three-times-appraised-value offer, to buy equivalent properties elsewhere.

"They need to understand that most of this community has very limited income," she said. "We want to move on, just give us what we need to move on. I'm not going to go to a trailer or an apartment. I gave my life to this property. I gave it everything I had. Nobody else wanted to tame it."

 

[Wjolcz]

Well, if I was offered to move like that I would probably ask for a ticket to Mars instead tbh.

[tater]

5 minutes ago, mikegarrison said:

It does seem like the Boca Chica deal was something of a bait-and-switch. When they first moved there, it was under the condition that there would be no more than 12 launches a year, only one of which would be at night.

They're certainly no where near a launch a month at this point.

The real issue I see it is that the distance from the nearest house to the launch site farther east seems to be about 2.5km (google earth). That's half the distance from the VAB press site to 39a.

Guess it depends on if TX wants a launch facility in state. The total number of houses is ~35, and I'm not sure all are even occupied. A ways down the road towards town, there are a bunch of lots open, some right on the water, closer to 6 km from the launch site.

1 minute ago, Wjolcz said:

Well, if I was offered to move like that I would probably ask for a ticket to Mars instead tbh.

New Donner needs entrées.

 

[mikegarrison]

The thing is, either SpaceX screwed up or else they have been quite Machiavellian about all this. They certainly didn't tell people that they intended to make Boca Chica Village essentially uninhabitable. But now that they are there, they are leaning very hard on the residents who were there long before they were to make way for SpaceX.

[sh1pman]

22 minutes ago, Wjolcz said:

Well, if I was offered to move like that I would probably ask for a ticket to Mars instead tbh.

Something Elon would probably do, move the village out of the way to Mars. Build a Boca Chica Colony there.

[tater]

12 minutes ago, mikegarrison said:

The thing is, either SpaceX screwed up or else they have been quite Machiavellian about all this. They certainly didn't tell people that they intended to make Boca Chica Village essentially uninhabitable. But now that they are there, they are leaning very hard on the residents who were there long before they were to make way for SpaceX.

Looking at google earth, and going back to older images, the houses are not there in 1993, and are there in 1995, which gives us some idea of their age, so yeah, long before SpaceX starting to look around in 2011. The initial idea was F9 and FH flights (which is remarkable given how close the houses are to the launch area proposed). The FAA signed off on the plan originally, though, so I guess it's still a thing. SpaceX can either just wait them out, or make them offers they can't refuse I guess.

[Nightside]

 

18 hours ago, tater said:

 

Sounds like another Elon bitcoin scam to me 

[Xd the great]

1 hour ago, Nightside said:

Sounds like another Elon bitcoin scam to me 

Dunno. They might have to evict the locals during launches. So it makes sense to pay the space nerds in the village something they can't refuse.

Or at least give them a blast proof bunker.

2 hours ago, tater said:

The real issue I see it is that the distance from the nearest house to the launch site farther east seems to be about 2.5km (google earth). That's half the distance from the VAB press site to 39a.

Guess it depends on if TX wants a launch facility in state. The total number of houses is ~35, and I'm not sure all are even occupied. A ways down the road towards town, there are a bunch of lots open, some right on the water, closer to 6 km from the launch site.

 

Or buy/build some houses furthur down the road, amd sell them to the "stubborn" residents.

Or just let them live inside a "decommissioned" starship mk1 later on.

Edited September 18, 2019 by Xd the great

[sevenperforce]

10 hours ago, tater said:

Hehe:

 

I wonder what kind of margins you'd have if you strapped three Falcon Heavy side boosters to the appropriate points on that and lifted off asparagus-style.

[Nothalogh]

11 hours ago, tater said:

Hehe:

 

Am I the only one who thinks of a squid when I look at the nose of that thing with its canards?