sevenperforce 7,456 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 RIP B1059. That was definitely the largest amount of plasma I've ever seen coming off the engine cluster post-entry-burn. It's possible that an early shutdown might have screwed with the trajectory, leaving the booster too far off-course to maneuver to the droneship. Lucky birbs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ricktoberfest 24 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Losing the booster may have saved them from the Sierra club though. We had a dozen ducks die due to an equipment failure and it took years and millions of dollars to “correct” the issue (propane noisemaker ran out of gas). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RealKerbal3x 5,790 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sevenperforce 7,456 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Ricktoberfest said: Losing the booster may have saved them from the Sierra club though. We had a dozen ducks die due to an equipment failure and it took years and millions of dollars to “correct” the issue (propane noisemaker ran out of gas). That sounds like a fun story but I cannot find tail nor feather of it anywhere -- tell me more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeSchmuckatelli 552 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 So - they got 6 flights out of that one booster... any idea of how much they saved over single use rockets? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sevenperforce 7,456 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 ROCKET INTENDED FOR LAUNCHING ASTRONAUTS EXPLODES IN OCEAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clamp-o-Tron 1,044 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I don’t think this will delay Crew-2 or any upcoming CRS missions, but does anyone have an idea if the landing anomaly will push back some launches as they investigate? They obviously don’t want to potentially throw away boosters if they can help it. USSF-44 (Falcon Heavy) has been delayed to July, probably unrelated. Also, it seems like Starlink will be 75% of SpaceX’s manifest through Q1 and Q2 this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ricktoberfest 24 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 hours ago, sevenperforce said: That sounds like a fun story but I cannot find tail nor feather of it anywhere -- tell me more! it’s easy to google: oilsands tailings pond ducks numbers of ducks range from a dozen to 1600 seemingly depending on what the initial bias against the oilsands is in the reporting. as it relates to spacex though, it would be a huge PR bust- even for seagulls to be roasted live on camera. On the other hand they could probably try and spin this as the booster saving those poor birds on the landing zone. (Even though it’s not likely true) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tater 27,141 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Not a huge problem Spoiler Detail: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeSchmuckatelli 552 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 My one trip to KSC, we spotted a bunch of skeletons around the launch pads. Gators apparently don't excite the Sierra Club Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lukaszenko 205 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 11 hours ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: I don’t think this will delay Crew-2 or any upcoming CRS missions, but does anyone have an idea if the landing anomaly will push back some launches as they investigate? They obviously don’t want to potentially throw away boosters if they can help it. USSF-44 (Falcon Heavy) has been delayed to July, probably unrelated. Also, it seems like Starlink will be 75% of SpaceX’s manifest through Q1 and Q2 this year. It's not just about throwing away boosters, it's about having a reliable and robust recovery of rockets, especially if they eventually plan to expand this into a reliable and robust recovery of 100+ people. Edited February 17 by Lukaszenko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RealKerbal3x 5,790 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Edited February 17 by RealKerbal3x tweet embedding didn't work for some reason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegarrison 4,078 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 SpaceX is in an interesting spot with Falcon 9s. How many of them should they build? If they can reliably reuse them, then they shouldn't build too many. They want to be transitioning to Starship, right? And they don't want to end up with a fleet of extra Falcon 9s just sitting around. But they have launch commitments, and if they lose too many then they won't have the boosters they need to do those launches. So what's the right number of Falcons to build? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magnemoe 2,662 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: My one trip to KSC, we spotted a bunch of skeletons around the launch pads. Gators apparently don't excite the Sierra Club Saw an alligator in the pound next to the spaceX pad. They have special fences the alligators can't climb to keep them out from the pads and other areas with people. As I understand you have to use an car or buss to get around because of the alligator security guards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kerbiloid 11,235 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) A spaceport fortress surrounded by a fence, under siege of dragons trying to climb up and break in. Burning them from top with fire jets, so the wasteland and swamp around is covered with sooty dragon skeletons... What a fantastic fantastic setting... And all this irl... Wow... Edited February 17 by kerbiloid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ignath 371 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, kerbiloid said: A spaceport fortress surrounded by a fence, under siege of dragons trying to climb up and break in. Burning them from top with fire jets, so the wasteland and swamp around is covered with sooty dragon skeletons... What a fantastic fantastic setting... And all this irl... Wow... Replace spaceport with factory and dragons with alien bugs and that sounds like my experience with Factorio! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Flying dutchman 360 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, RealKerbal3x said: Spoiler Edited February 17 by Flying dutchman remove image containing cursing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derega16 211 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I notice something about starship development, every major flight milestone seems to required a saccrifice. Like DM-1 capsule or a booster...so... SN10 will sucessfully land? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geonovast 6,552 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Some content has been removed for being off topic and some light backseating, as well as an image containing content that is against the forum guidelines. Cursing is not allowed, even if it is partially masked. Guys, if you see a post that contains content that you believe is not allowed, just file a report and let us take care of it. Do not address publicly it in the thread. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying dutchman 360 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, Geonovast said: Some content has been removed for being off topic and some light backseating, as well as an image containing content that is against the forum guidelines. Cursing is not allowed, even if it is partially masked. Guys, if you believe a post contains content that you believe is not allowed, just file a report and let us take care of it. Do not address publicly it in the thread. Thank you. i added the approved image back in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tater 27,141 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, mikegarrison said: So what's the right number of Falcons to build? It's tricky as they need to keep the rocket factory going as well. They certainly need as many Stage 2 sections as launches, so that keeps the line going on those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tater 27,141 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://www.nasa.gov/feature/dart-launch-moves-to-secondary-window (NASA page slow loading for me, likely power out at Johnson, maybe they are using all of it for the space heaters) Quote from NASA: Quote This decision, in part, stems from technical challenges associated with two mission critical components: the Didymos Reconnaissance and Asteroid Camera for Optical-navigation (DRACO) imager, which needs to be reinforced to ensure it withstands the stress of launch, and the roll-out solar arrays (ROSA), which are delayed due to supply chain impacts resulting from, but not limited to, the COVID-19 pandemic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RealKerbal3x 5,790 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 @Geonovast Sorry about that Anyway, static fire is nowhere to be seen thus far: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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