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1 hour ago, wumpus said:

I'd have to assume the whole scaling issue would be a bigger problem than the wind.  The shuttle SRBs splashed down over 44 m/s (I remember reading >100mph), although it is possible that Starship will be lighter.

If you are planning on falling through the upper atmosphere, I'd still think  you could use drogue chutes to cut your delta-v.  You'd still need retro-rockets, but far less fuel (and thus more mass going up, assuming the parachutes were lighter than the propellant mass.  Which isn't a guaranteed thing).

However starship is falling pretty slowly then vertical because its huge cross section anyway and this is controlled flight.
Yes you have self guiding parachutes its used by the military to resupply forces. I assume this is used then flying low is dangerous and the force might be behind enemy lines, here the accuracy only need to be in the hundreds of meter.
I guess the falcon 8 fairings uses an versions of this but here the parachute and ship talk, this did not work well as the fairing is also very affected by wind. an container to support an unit would be much more dense.  

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3 minutes ago, magnemoe said:

However starship is falling pretty slowly then vertical because its huge cross section anyway and this is controlled flight.
Yes you have self guiding parachutes its used by the military to resupply forces. I assume this is used then flying low is dangerous and the force might be behind enemy lines, here the accuracy only need to be in the hundreds of meter.
I guess the falcon 8 fairings uses an versions of this but here the parachute and ship talk, this did not work well as the fairing is also very affected by wind. an container to support an unit would be much more dense.  

In other news, SpaceX has given up on catching fairings in nets, showing that they realize that the wind is just to variable to control.    Then there's the issue of "do you just release the parachutes and make them disposable", which might rub Elon the wrong way.  When I first joined this forum I was convinced that parachutes were the way to go (something KSP teaches badly), but now I'm highly skeptical of combining parachutes with landing in exact locations (one or the other is fine).

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23 hours ago, tater said:

Orbital SS thrust structure, I presume?

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And... <shrug>

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I had initially thought it was some way to move this safety—perhaps to Houston. The fake flap things threw me, though.

It's clear the black nose cap has just a single access hole from this angle.

 

What is the purpose of the structure here? keeping is stable during mating? why don' add some scaffolding on the top is welded manual. 

The top one looks like an test object, only holes on one side and why the 2 large hole and the bottom right part, now it could be for mounting an vacuum engine for SS. 

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18 hours ago, magnemoe said:

What is the purpose of the structure here? keeping is stable during mating? why don' add some scaffolding on the top is welded manual. 

The top one looks like an test object, only holes on one side and why the 2 large hole and the bottom right part, now it could be for mounting an vacuum engine for SS. 

From the bottom photo - it looks like they are getting close to finally summoning Gozer, Scourge of the Glethestements. 

 

The source of Elon's power is thus revealed 

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From looking at this, I start to wonder if they want to do some sort of structural testing with the forward flap actuators,  to better understand the dynamics and verify simulations/calculations, including checking for fatigue?

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It's incomplete. One bar is absent,

If remove another one, but add two  chevrons (or four other bars), it will be unicursal.

Is this mirror dome a trap for what should appear in the portal?

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There is apparently a hydraulic ram inside as well (it was spotted being lowered inside the nose before the black cap).

I suppose they can pull down on it and simulate whatever the max g-load is. I would imagine there is a substantial difference between how pressurized tanks deal with that axial loading, vs a hollow cargo fairing.

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2 hours ago, mikegarrison said:

Gotta be able to make those posts about your stonks.

Need high speed, too, since if this is like the others anyone riding only has a couple minutes left to get their affairs in order.

Also, SN16?:

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That should be almost a thousand tiles so far (992). I wonder when we'll see tiles wrapping around the nosecone, also SN16?

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57 minutes ago, Spaceception said:

That should be almost a thousand tiles so far (992). I wonder when we'll see tiles wrapping around the nosecone, also SN16?

Actually, unsure on the number.

 

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Note that the date on that FCC filing regarding a Starlink test shows NET 4/20/2020—but it was only filed a few days ago, so the 2020 is a typo obviously. That means we won't expect a test flight until maybe Tuesday next week.

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14 hours ago, tater said:

Need high speed, too, since if this is like the others anyone riding only has a couple minutes left to get their affairs in order.

Also, SN16?:

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as of right now i counted a 32x32 grid of tiles, so 1024 tiles

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