tater Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I guess they better hope sea levels don't rise too quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: I guess they better hope sea levels don't rise too quickly. Then they won't need rainbirds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, mikegarrison said: I guess they better hope sea levels don't rise too quickly. Well... they’ve already got plenty of experience making huge piles of dirt... Odd to think just a couple-three years ago that whole place was nothing but a big pile of dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikegarrison Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Well... they’ve already got plenty of experience making huge piles of dirt... Odd to think just a couple-three years ago that whole place was nothing but a big pile of dirt. I guess I don't know what you are talking about. Piles of dirt? Were they preloading the soil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Tweetstorm, apparently. 10 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: I guess I don't know what you are talking about. Piles of dirt? Were they preloading the soil? this is what Boca looked like a few years back. I guess they had some settling issues with the soil and had to build this big mound to compact it before they could do anything, part of why it took so long for anything to happen there. If you check out the site on Google maps, it still looks like that. Edited June 7, 2020 by CatastrophicFailure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: this is what Boca looked like a few years back. I guess they had some settling issues with the soil and had to build this big mound to compact it before they could do anything, part of why it took so long for anything to happen there. Yeah, pre-loading. It's a standard construction technique. A cheap and effective way to stabilize the soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 hours ago, mikegarrison said: I guess they better hope sea levels don't rise too quickly. Dragon + Starship + sea = Sea Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Forgot to post this earlier. A new nosecone has appeared, and it also seems like they're building a very large crane at the launch site. Edited June 7, 2020 by RealKerbal3x Hit post too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightside Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 16 hours ago, tater said: Lunaship? Is that what we’re calling it now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Nightside said: Lunaship? Is that what we’re calling it now? Not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zolotiyeruki Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 To be fair, SN4's destruction wasn't its own fault, as far as we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I'm still sceptical that SpaceX can get a cargo Starship to Mars by 2022, but we'll have to see. I think crew may be the limiting factor - it may take several more years for the crew variant to become reliable enough for it to be certified for crew. Without an abort system, it needs to be approaching airliner-like reliability. And I'm not sure they can do that in four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightside Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, RealKerbal3x said: I'm still sceptical that SpaceX can get a cargo Starship to Mars by 2022, but we'll have to see. I think crew may be the limiting factor - it may take several more years for the crew variant to become reliable enough for it to be certified for crew. Without an abort system, it needs to be approaching airliner-like reliability. And I'm not sure they can do that in four years. Crew won’t be launching on the initial version. The lunar lander variant would still meet up with Orion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikegarrison Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, tater said: It is possible to clean things.... That being said, I used to deliberately not clean the rubber marks and road grime from my track car. I liked showing off that it was well-used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Nightside said: Crew won’t be launching on the initial version. The lunar lander variant would still meet up with Orion. I know, but they plan to fly crew to Mars in 2024 as well. That's what I'm skeptical about - Starship Super Heavy being certified for launching crew by 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightside Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, RealKerbal3x said: I know, but they plan to fly crew to Mars in 2024 as well. That's what I'm skeptical about - Starship Super Heavy being certified for launching crew by 2024. I guess they can still plan to ferry crew to and from the Moonboat with Dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Little bit more work on the launch mount: Edit: new hydraulic rams for thrust simulation? Took me a while to work out what was going on in this picture! Edited June 8, 2020 by RCgothic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 And SN6 thrust section has been skirted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wumpus Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 18 hours ago, RealKerbal3x said: I'm still sceptical that SpaceX can get a cargo Starship to Mars by 2022, but we'll have to see. I think crew may be the limiting factor - it may take several more years for the crew variant to become reliable enough for it to be certified for crew. Without an abort system, it needs to be approaching airliner-like reliability. And I'm not sure they can do that in four years. The landing sequence (with crew) looks far, far worse. I suspect they will be returning in dragons at least until 2030 (possibly modified for landing on land). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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