Jump to content

[KSP 1.12.3] Astronomer's Visual Pack - Beyond (v4.13 - July 17th, 2022)


themaster401

Recommended Posts

29 minutes ago, D.eimos said:

Out of curiosity, is there anyway to fully disable the loading screens AVP adds? I found the option to allow the stock ones but for some reason AVP makes the user loading screens go away really fast so I'd like to fully disable it

Looks like you could try deleting the AVP_LoadingScreens folder.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

https://imgur.com/a/LTgH3YV

I'm having problems with Jool. Jool's clouds are much darker than they're supposed to be. When running AVP in a previous version of KSP, there wasn't any issues. Could be other mods on my install list, but it's likely that other people have had this problem before. So, if there's the possibility that another mod is causing this, please let me know and I'll get you screenshots of my mod list.

AVP and all other mods were installed using CKAN, so please don't tell me something about "installing it incorrectly".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, intelliCom said:

https://imgur.com/a/LTgH3YV

I'm having problems with Jool. Jool's clouds are much darker than they're supposed to be. When running AVP in a previous version of KSP, there wasn't any issues. Could be other mods on my install list, but it's likely that other people have had this problem before. So, if there's the possibility that another mod is causing this, please let me know and I'll get you screenshots of my mod list.

AVP and all other mods were installed using CKAN, so please don't tell me something about "installing it incorrectly".

oh i got the same thing, idk if its supposed to be darker
https://imgur.com/a/YqMt5Ez

i installed it manually

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, intelliCom said:

That starfield's a bit different than mine. Why?

do you mean the skybox?
i decided to use beyond home skybox because it looks cool

and after a few days, decided to change back to avp skybox

also the screenshot is like 2-3 weeks ago

Link to comment
Share on other sites

35 minutes ago, Protost4r said:

do you mean the skybox?
i decided to use beyond home skybox because it looks cool

and after a few days, decided to change back to avp skybox

also the screenshot is like 2-3 weeks ago

Gotcha. Anyways, back the topic at hand: Is Jool still like this for you? Was there a time where you ever saw it how it's normally supposed to be?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, intelliCom said:

Gotcha. Anyways, back the topic at hand: Is Jool still like this for you? Was there a time where you ever saw it how it's normally supposed to be?

try reverting scatterer to 0.07, it fixes the issue
edit : https://imgur.com/a/hYImUru i tested it with scatterer 0.07

Edited by Protost4r
need to add a picture
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, Protost4r said:

try reverting scatterer to 0.07, it fixes the issue
edit : https://imgur.com/a/hYImUru i tested it with scatterer 0.07

I want to understand the influence scatterer has on Jool's textures to make them that way. What the hell changed between 0.07 and 0.08 to make this happen?

Edit: Changing to 0.0772 didn't fix it. Some things look much worse now.

https://imgur.com/a/JbfOyGX

Edited by intelliCom
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, intelliCom said:

I want to understand the influence scatterer has on Jool's textures to make them that way. What the hell changed between 0.07 and 0.08 to make this happen?

Edit: Changing to 0.0772 didn't fix it. Some things look much worse now.

https://imgur.com/a/JbfOyGX

Update: Even after reinstalling my visual mods, Jool has remained glitched: https://imgur.com/a/4ekHCH0

Edited by intelliCom
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, intelliCom said:

I want to understand the influence scatterer has on Jool's textures to make them that way. What the hell changed between 0.07 and 0.08 to make this happen?

Edit: Changing to 0.0772 didn't fix it. Some things look much worse now.

https://imgur.com/a/JbfOyGX

oh my, kerbin atmosphere is gone

wait have you installed the scatterer "default config" version 0.0772?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 minutes ago, Protost4r said:

oh my, kerbin atmosphere is gone

wait have you installed the scatterer "default config" version 0.0772?

Did the same thing again with the config set to the same version. Works perfectly now. Thanks!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, intelliCom said:

Did the same thing again with the config set to the same version. Works perfectly now. Thanks!

Interesting new problem: Shadow circles all over Jool. Only shows up in flight view.

https://imgur.com/a/vcQuRDa

Edited by intelliCom
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, intelliCom said:

Interesting new problem: Shadow circles all over Jool. Only shows up in flight view.

https://imgur.com/a/vcQuRDa

hmm going into jool atmosphere is a little bit weird, i tried it before and it makes the clouds texture buggy (just when you entered jool clouds, if you go out its perfectly fine again)

2 hours ago, intelliCom said:

Did the same thing again with the config set to the same version. Works perfectly now. Thanks!

i dont know why but scatterer 0.08 seems to messed up mods, i tried scatterer 0.08 with opm mod+avp, neidon is green lol (should be dark blue)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, intelliCom said:

Wait, can I see a screenshot of your version of Neidon, or was it just that whole "Is indigo a shade of blue or shade of purple" debate again?

go to page 69, find the dude getting green neidon, you can see with scatterer 0.08, it makes neidon green

and with scatterer 0.07 its perfectly fine

https://imgur.com/a/noUBW1r

Link to comment
Share on other sites

29 minutes ago, Protost4r said:

go to page 69, find the dude getting green neidon, you can see with scatterer 0.08, it makes neidon green

and with scatterer 0.07 its perfectly fine

https://imgur.com/a/noUBW1r

Very strange. Your Neidon looks very similar to AVP's Jool.

Here is a screenshot from my map view: https://imgur.com/a/6WlsCJh

Edited by intelliCom
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, intelliCom said:

Very strange. Your Neidon looks very similar to AVP's Jool.

Here is a screenshot from my map view: https://imgur.com/a/6WlsCJh

wait forgot to mention, i use avp for opm

so neidon looks close to avp jool
edit : i think gas giants with avp uses this texture https://imgur.com/a/Og6Vyr7

sarnus and urlum uses that texture too if you are using avp for opm

Edited by Protost4r
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, Protost4r said:

wait forgot to mention, i use avp for opm

so neidon looks close to avp jool
edit : i think gas giants with avp uses this texture https://imgur.com/a/Og6Vyr7

sarnus and urlum uses that texture too if you are using avp for opm

I'm also using AVP, scatterer, EVE, etc, but it looks different. Sarnus and Urlum definitely look similar to Jool, but Neidon is very clearly purple.

Perhaps it might look different if I went there with a ship instead of looking at it through the map?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, intelliCom said:

I'm also using AVP, scatterer, EVE, etc, but it looks different. Sarnus and Urlum definitely look similar to Jool, but Neidon is very clearly purple.

Perhaps it might look different if I went there with a ship instead of looking at it through the map?

hmm ok fixed, i use scatterer 0.07 now and its purple fine

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/26/2022 at 10:51 AM, Protost4r said:

hmm ok fixed, i use scatterer 0.07 now and its purple fine

 

Let me just clear this up, AVP does NOT work with the 0.08 version(s) of scatterer correctly yet. OP promised an update back in November but has been quiet since, so I'd recommend using scatterer version 0.0772 for now.

Same for basically every other visual pack btw:

 

Edited by Neebel
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/29/2022 at 8:21 PM, Neebel said:

Let me just clear this up, AVP does NOT work with the 0.08 version(s) of scatterer correctly yet. OP promised an update back in November but has been quiet since, so I'd recommend using scatterer version 0.0772 for now.

Same for basically every other visual pack btw:

 

CKAN lists version 0.0830 of scatterer as latest, and decides to put it alongside the latest AVP and EVE.

Doesn't CKAN detect conflicts between mods that don't work with each other?

Also, what specifically causes the celestial bodies to look like this when using scatterer 0.08xx?
Does it have something to do with how scatterer treats the values being given to it by AVP or something along those lines?
https://imgur.com/a/uEaqGnQ

Edit: Clarifying questions.

Edited by intelliCom
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, intelliCom said:

CKAN lists version 0.0830 of scatterer as latest, and decides to put it alongside the latest AVP and EVE.

Doesn't CKAN detect conflicts between mods that don't work with each other?

Also, what specifically causes the celestial bodies to look like this when using scatterer 0.08xx?
Does it have something to do with how scatterer treats the values being given to it by AVP or something along those lines?
https://imgur.com/a/uEaqGnQ

Edit: Clarifying questions.

So first, this issue is not CKAN's problem because they technically still work together, just not as they should, and sorting out these kinds of issues is not duty of the CKAN devs. Which brings me to your second question: AVP and most other visual packs basically just use outdated configs which were made out-of-date by the new scatterer versions. That's why the atmospheres look all weird. This just happens whenever major changes are done to a mod that is a dependency of many other mods. The only way to currently use the newest scatterer versions is by just downloading scatterer, EVE and whatever else you want with their respective default configs and not get any packs like AVP or Spectra. Still won't work with OPM though because their plantes will still look weird from their outdated configs.

Edited by Neebel
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...