AI Ethics

[HebaruSan]

Just now, -Velocity- said:

converting some different part of your brain into urine or feces?

How much per day, as a percentage?

[-Velocity-]

3 minutes ago, HebaruSan said:

How much per day, as a percentage?

Something greater than zero and less than 100.  Perhaps you are not aware that we actually regrow brain cells, that we pee out used-up neurochemicals, or that cells constantly are repairing damage to themselves.  But I think you are just are trying to be argumentative.

[Green Baron]

We lack definitions: sentient, intelligent, even artificial could be questioned. The whole thing whether one can kill a robot is a philosophical question right now, maybe will become a legal one in the future. Politicians will grab the problem and make it their own.

Today there is no artificial intelligence, only programs that partly simulate states and processes. A good chess or go program doesn't make it "intelligent" but of course marketing of certain companies has a different view.

Lack of definitions lead to a free use of these words in fiction. At least vertebrates have the potential of being "sentient" with the necessary receptors, conductors and signal processing and in many countries today it is forbidden to kill or torture an animal, though the laws aren't always enforced. With animals it goes like: if they become a menace to human property they are killed, even extinguished if the kill accidentally was the last one of its kind. That is a hint to what will happen to ai if it will be going to rise its nose too high.

Ethics are probably of little concern then, as they probably won't be when ai will be built. It'll probably be a process with a lot of excitement in the beginning. Lot's of "probablies" here .... :-)

Edited July 12, 2017 by Green Baron

[kerbiloid]

2 hours ago, -Velocity- said:

By the same argument, laws against child abuse are just to protect other's feelings, not the child's feelings.

Can animals be sentenced for their crimes?
Children are humans temporarily delegated their rights and responsibilities to their caretaker, until they reach adult status.
Animals - never, they are treated as a property permanently.

2 hours ago, -Velocity- said:

You can't prove that children have sentience.  Of course, that's ridiculous.

Just a century ago even a woman rarely was treated as a rightful juridical subject.
In any tribal culture they would not even understand you questions, as children were/are their parents property by default.

2 hours ago, -Velocity- said:

and we empathize with an animal in distress or pain.

Unless we herd this animal for meat, and let somebody kill it for us.
Then we don't care much about their sentience, just about making this less suffering. As our feelings stay mostly untouched .

Edited July 12, 2017 by kerbiloid

[Steel]

3 hours ago, -Velocity- said:

Incorrect.  There is overwhelming evidence to show that all animals are sentient. The law already recognizes animal sentience (through the existence  of laws against animal cruelty) because it has been plainly obvious to anyone who has eyes since the dawn of mankind that animals have sentience.

Just because a large number of science fiction authors misuse the word "sentience" doesn't mean it's fine to do so as well.  Actual scientists certainly don't misuse the word: https://www.livescience.com/39481-time-to-declare-animal-sentience.html, nor does the dictionary: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sentience?s=t

You are quite right, turns out the word I actually should use is "sapient"

[kerbiloid]

AI made its decision.

 

[Scotius]

It couldn't handle the pressures of existing as a giant, self-propelled suppository. I mean - seriously? Who came with external design basically being invitation to all kinds of dirty jokes? For a "security bot" no less?

[kerbiloid]

Probably, it's supposed to be a design aimed at improving safety. 
Rounded, with no sharp parts or corners. Stable (wide base, narrow top), Slick (less dirty). Heavy.

Probably it can be mounted into Dragon v2 (having the same shape) like R2D2 on top of a space fighter like R2D2.

Also maybe it's a converted warhead.

Spoiler

 

Edited July 18, 2017 by kerbiloid