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On 11/18/2019 at 5:14 PM, sh1pman said:

Right, who needs a complex pre-cooler when the engine itself is supposed to be expendable?

Missile carriers. Clearly they're liking what a MiG-31 can do with Kinzhal.

Anyway, the Ministry of Defense is suing the space industry (Progress, Energiya, now Khrunichev and possibly also Lavochkin) into the ground for various delays and failures: https://www.rbc.ru/society/20/11/2019/5dd4c8b29a79475434563774

I don't think Roscosmos will be around by 2020.

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5 hours ago, DDE said:

Missile carriers.

Missile carriers can be cruise missiles. Missile-ception.

5 hours ago, DDE said:

I don't think Roscosmos will be around by 2020.

They'll be fine. Because "the likelihood of legislative changes is high, since it would be “wrong” to drive enterprises into a debt hole".

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On 11/20/2019 at 4:16 PM, sh1pman said:

Missile carriers can be cruise missiles. Missile-ception.

 

Reminds of the Alpha antiship missile components of the Kalibr family - the cruise missile has an extra, supersonic, rocket-propelled stage for that last dash towards the target.

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Just in case.
As "hypersonic air launch missille carriers" I meant "carriers of hypersonic air launch missilles", not "hypersonic air launch missille as carriers"...
So, a hypersonic weapon for that carrier doesn't need a tricky cooling.

But I like your way of thinking... (c) the joke about Hemingway

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Next anthropomorphic robot to be sent into space onboard PTKNP "Oryol / Eagle" will be named ARTEM — Automatic Research and TEsting Machine.
(Correct pronunciation - /artj 'o:m/)
Coincidentally it is same as the name of the second Rogozin's grandson.

The first one was FEDOR (Final Experimental Demonstration Object Research), like the elder one's name.

Compared to the FEDOR, which looks "rough", the new one will look more elegant.

It will help the crew to pilot the ship, will press buttons and do other operations.
It won't be performing the docking itself for safety.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.rbc.ru/society/25/11/2019/5ddb7d609a794795c2e587bd

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https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12263690@egNews

Payload status norminal. It's an optical space situational awareness platform, judging from the description.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=49501.0

Bart Hendrickx identifies it as a Lavochkin 14F150 №2; expect subsatellites and sub-subsatellites.

 

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The Sea Launch platform will be relocated from the US  to the urban-type settlement of Slavyanka, to the south from Vladivostok,  80 km from DPRK.

It will be used for Soyuz-5 launches from the equatorial ocean / oceanic equator.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ria.ru/20191205/1562003498.html

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1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

80 km from DPRK.

I heard DPRK doesn't have good launch azimuths... Rockets have to fly over Japan, not great. Not an easy problem to solve, unless you have a floating launch platform or something like that.

Oh wait.

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It will take about a month to relocate the Sea Launch to Slavyanka shipyard.
It will probably happen in 2020, and they are going todo asap, especially leaving the US while docs are ok.
The command ship will go itself, the launch platform will probably do this being docked in a floating dock.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/686888

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Successful launch of the latest GLONASS-M.

 

 

However, it seems like ROSCOSMOS is cheating with the picture for now, as the one showed here was more than likely taken during the launch of EKS-2, two years ago:

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--- Edit ---

 

We now have official videos available.

 

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Russian cosmonauts going to fly to the Moon in PTKNP Oryol/Eagle must be not heavier than 70 kg (info from the Energy Corp., the ship developer).

It can deliver to the Moon 420 kg of payload, including crew of 4 and 100 kg of cargo.

So, a cosmonaut with a suit Sokol-M/Falcon-M must be <= 80 kg.
As the suit mass is 10 kg, the human must be <=70 kg.

Currently cosmonauts can be hired if they mass between 50 and 90 kg.

PTKNP Oryol/Eagle has appeared to be a little bit (+2.3 t) heavier than it was limited.
Cables are +210 kg overmassed, life support +109 kg, propulsion +107 kg.

It will mass 22 343 kg (against 19 848 kg in the project).

The PTKNP native launch vehicles are Angara and Yenisei (superheavy, for lunar flights)..
Roscosmos has said many times that these rockets are being designed according to the 20 t of payload limit, to match this ship.

Energy Corp. now has developed some measures to decrease the ship mass from 22 343 kg down to 21 200 kg.
Though current 2.3 t overmass is still appropriate for the test flights, they said. Angara-A5P still can deliver it to LEO.

Originally PTKNP was planned to be 12.5 t for LEO and 16.5 t for the Moon.
Later this became 17/20 t.
Then they were brought together in the universal 20 t ship.
(Which is actually 22.343 t, as they say now.)

Current plans are:
2023 - uncrewed, Angara-A5P, Vostochniy/Eastern
2024 - uncrewed to ISS
2025 - crewed to ISS
2026-2027 - still Angara flights
2028 - Yenisei test flight
still 2028 - Final tests
2029 - lunar fly-by
2030 - lunar landing

Currently the Energy Corp. is building two instances of the ship to be used as payload mockups in Angara flights in 2023 and Yenisei in 2028 (10 flights), and for further usage.

After they had wished to give it a masculine name instead of the feminine Federatsiya/Federation, they decided to name the PTKNP instances after the Peter I's first ships.
So, the choice was between: Oryol/Eagle, Flag/Flag, Aist /ah-east/ / Stork.
They decided to name the first one Oryol. The name of the second one is not declared.

(Still thinking that Goto Predestinatsiya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_ship_of_the_line_Goto_Predestinatsia
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Гото_Предестинация
would be great, but it's feminine, too :(  So, no chances)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5df4476d9a794799916adebb

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ria.ru/20191213/1562337579.html

P.S.
(420-100)/95 = 3.368...
420 - 95 * 3 = 135
So, or three Kerbals with bonus 35 kg of snacks.

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18 hours ago, tater said:

This gets posted in 2 places, cause it's a Soyuz, but Arianespace..

 

Video is private as in should not be posted or change it. 
Arianespace Soyuz should still list as an Russian mission as its an Russian rocket. Same as an Electron rocket launched from UK or US is still an Rocketlab rocket. 

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