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On 5/5/2020 at 12:44 PM, DDE said:

Chief designer of NPO Energiya and a major backer of Oryol has died of COVID.

https://tass.ru/obschestvo/8398075

Interim Energiya chief replaced by ex-Sukhoi CEO.

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4347154?from=hotnews

This is bad news. The guy was kicked out from Sukhoi due to the delays in the Su-57 project. He was promptly picked up by Rogozin, who was on his way out of the overall defense industry and into the "bastion of success" that is Roscosmos. This means that should the rumoured dismantling of Roscosmos happen, he, his boss and Oryol alike might get thoroughly buried.

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Under the new leadership, the Energy Corp. will start designing a new orbital station.

The previous chief designer (who has left us due to the covid) believed this is right.

The new station would weight mass 60 t and would consist of 6 modules: NEM (Scientific-Energetical module), MLM (Multifunctional Laboratory Module), nodal module, and two more unknown modules.

NEM (exhibition mockup)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Научно-энергетический_модуль

21 t, 50 kW

Spoiler

A_model_of_one_of_the_planed_Russian_Sci

MLM
http://www.khrunichev.ru/main.php?id=55

Spoiler

modyl3_1.jpg

So, these modules are (ta-dam! surprise!) derived from FGB of TKS. Roscosmos prefers Tantares.

Nodal module is a small spherical module derived from Soyuz habitat.

As 60 - 20 - 20 - 3 ~= 17 t, so the rest unnamed modules are probably similar small 2-3 t modules.

Currently the first 3 modules are assigned for ISS but Roscosmos is not sure if this is a good way to send them right before ISS planned cancellation.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/708859

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22 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

but Roscosmos is not sure if this is a good way to send them right before ISS planned cancellation.

Nauka delayed AGAIN?

22 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

As 60 - 20 - 20 - 3 ~= 17 t, so the rest unnamed modules are probably similar small 2-3 t modules.

So likely smaller than the Chinese counterpart.

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1 hour ago, DDE said:

So likely smaller than the Chinese counterpart.

The hypothetical Chinese counterpart.

1 hour ago, DDE said:

Nauka delayed AGAIN?

I guess, nothing will fly until Starship will/won't, because probably the ISS future depends on this.

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3 hours ago, DDE said:

 

I have to wonder if Orbital/Northrup Grumman have any engines on display.  I suspect they might not want to admit it.  Maybe they can discretely send some over to the nearby Udvar-Hazy Smithsonian Air-Space extension...

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Rogozin suggests to start the Russian orbital station immediately, because Russia was always the leader in this, and this is a task for the Energy Corp.

Will it be habited or visited, national or international, this is a thing to decide.
But the technical part of the project should start being solved right now.
Because nobody knows how long will ISS exist, maybe 7, maybe 10 years.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/710131

Also Roscosmos starts designing a crewed spaceplane to visit the orbital stations.

Rogozin has reminded about Buran which was ahead of its time.
Lyulka's bureau is working on the pulse detonation engine which can be used for this, too.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/710133

Also Rogozin believes that when US starts sending the astronauts to ISS on its own, this will allow to increase the Russian ISS crew,

Also he believes that the responsibility of delivering people to ISS costs more than US pay for it, because the people on ground pay for it with nerves and health.

He said that they watch the Crew Dragon preparations with interest and would be glad if US had their own alternative crew delivery system,
as he can imagine how such great power as US was worrying for all these nine years without the ability to do this on its own,
so he wishes them professional success.

Also he noticed that Russia is interested because Roscosmos is developing Oryol (PTKNP) and one more ship to deliver crew to the orbital stations on LEO.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/710144

Also he promised to not allow the privatisation of the Moon, whoever tries to do that.

He said that the Moon interests us in sense of her origin and keeping her as a satellite of the Earth.
But she's not a destination point, and Roscosmos isn't goint to take part in a moon race.

In 2021 Russia will resume the lunar program by sending Luna-25.
In 2024-2025 there will be Luna-26 orbiter and Luna-27 heavy lander-driller to gather regolith samples.

So, the US lunar plans need a study and legal assessment.

Earlier he compared these plans with invasion to Iraq and Afghanistan, as the principle is the same:
first US creates a coalition of agreed/wishing countries,
then (bypassing UN and even NATO if there is somebody who doubts) moves to the goal.
But the result will be the same, like in Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/710141

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Rogozin told that ISS probably will be used tii ~2030; seven, maybe ten years.
Then it anyway should be replaced, at least for the metal fatique.

So, Russia starts developing the modules of a new station which will be ready after 2030.
(So, I guess, they chose to continue with ISS right now and postponed the new station till 2030.)

Unlike any other station before, the new station will be able to refuel spaceships.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/710632

He told that Russia will land a crew on the Moon after 2028, when the super-heavy launcher will start being tested.

Also the Moon will be a test site for the landing technologies which will be required on other celestial bodies.
First of all, asteroids, which can become a source of mineral resources, rather than the Moon.

Rogozin called manilovshchina the plans of lunar helium-3 mining, because it requires a whole plant to be built on the Moon.
(Manilovshchina (after the book character Manilov) is "great amusing non-viable plans which are not for implementation, but just for dreaming").

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/710619

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5 hours ago, DDE said:
  Reveal hidden contents

Apollo 12: Am I a joke to you?

 

SpaceX probably wasn't sure just how deeply buried the "SCE to AUX" switch is in Dragon's touchscreen menus.

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15 hours ago, DDE said:

Woke: he was our guy all along

The reusable rockets were a tricky trap.

Look, they even believe in the reюsable rockets for MAЯS made of steel, fueled with self-made methane...

So naive, they took seriously such obvious trolling.

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14 hours ago, Nightside said:

(and where can I get more?)

A deepfake of the unofficial late Soviet space anthem. That was one of the first rock bands allowed by the Soviet authorities, BTW.

 

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On 6/8/2020 at 2:37 PM, XB-70A said:

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They do say they have a whole lot of missiles freeing up.

Which is weird because the UR-100 has just gotten a new warhead.

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