totm dec 2019 Russian Launch and Mission Thread

[kerbiloid]

Rogozin calls talented the mocumentary video about a Ryazan (a stereotypical countryside place) village on Mars.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://www.rbc.ru/technology_and_media/21/11/2020/5fb965c09a79474cb75a0927

The masterpiece itself. (In English)

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Whar do you say now, Elon Musk?
Methane, huh? They have it from cows.

Edited November 22, 2020 by kerbiloid

[tater]

 

[kerbiloid]

(As since this month Google Translate has given up trying to translate interfax's unicode, the link is original, serve yourself right).

https://www.interfax.ru/world/741247

Rogozin said that Roscosmos suggests NASA to adapt the adaptors of the American lunar ships to match the Russian standard for the capability of emergency docking.

"I told to Jim Bridenstine that
'You can direct your (US) ideas in various directions, but you (must / should), for your own money, make a docking adaptor adapted to the Russian ship.
So, we (RU) could in case of emergency get to it, take your crew, and ret urn to the Earth.'"

Also he noticed that same practice should be applied also to the Chinese space ships.

The space exploration is possible only in international cooperation, so
"They won't get anywhere without us. And it's a pity, we won't do this without them. So, we should be bound by technical decisions which will make possible to save astronauts, taikonauts, and cosmonauts in emergency situation."

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https://www.interfax.ru/world/741235

Roscosmos is worried that the Artemis Accords program will let USA perform military activity on the Moon.

"The Accords principles directly or indirectly violate international laws.  In particular, they don't include a prohibition of military activity. So, we suspect that our American colleagues do not exclude the militarization of space if necessary."

[sh1pman]

32 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

"The Accords principles directly or indirectly violate international laws.  In particular, they don't include a prohibition of military activity. So, we suspect that our American colleagues do not exclude the militarization of space if necessary."

Is that a bad thing? I mean, if Russia signs the Accords, it can also militarize its half of the Moon as well!

[tater]

LOL, we'll be lucky if we even get people to the Moon with Artemis in a timely fashion. What would they do to "militarize" the Moon?

I'm actually of the opposite camp WRT international efforts, the US foots most of the bill (by a wide margin) anyway, so I tend to argue we should have no partners at all. ESA represents countries with a similar GDP to the US, for example, so IMO they should pony up exactly as much money as the US does per capita to gain entry (vs throwing the lousy ESM at Orion for a ride).

The only outfit that might have the capability to "militarize" the Moon might be SpaceX if they get Starship working. Then they can land a Platoon of soldiers on the Moon—to subdue the inhabitants? For reasons.

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On the actual spaceflight front:

 

Edited December 14, 2020 by tater

[kerbiloid]

24 minutes ago, tater said:

What would they do to "militarize" the Moon?

An antropomorphous robot on a jeep, armed with akimbo pistols?

[tater]

First American soldier on the Moon:

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[sh1pman]

7 hours ago, tater said:

First American soldier on the Moon:

(I’ll get banned for this, but couldn’t resist)

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Also:

Russia Begins Development of Nuclear Tug for Flights to Moon, Jupiter, Venus

MOSCOW, (Sputnik) - Roscosmos has signed a contract worth 4.2 billion rubles ($57.5 million) for the preliminary design of nuclear space tug Nuklon for flights to the Moon, Jupiter and Venus, according to the materials of the state corporation published on the public procurement website.

The contract between Roskosmos and the St. Petersburg design bureau Arsenal for the "development of a preliminary design for the creation of a space system with a nuclear-based transport and energy module (TEM)," was signed on December 10.

Previously Roskosmos revealed some details about developing a spacecraft fitted with a nuclear power module that would serve as a "tug" of sorts.

https://sputniknews.com/russia/202012111081431355-russia-begins-development-of-nuclear-tug-for-flights-to-moon-jupiter-venus/

 

Edited December 15, 2020 by sh1pman

[tater]

I love me some nuclear tug/ferry (per the original STSystem concept...

[sh1pman]

Just now, tater said:

I love me some nuclear tug/ferry (per the original STSystem concept...

First mission is scheduled to launch in 2030 to Venus, with a stop at the Moon (visit the Gateway?).

If it was up to me, its first mission would be to intercept a certain red Tesla roadster, catch it with a net and bring back to Earth orbit.

[kerbiloid]

What do they call "Venus" and "Jupiter"?

Will the Americans have militarized the Moon before this flight?

Edited December 15, 2020 by kerbiloid

[sh1pman]

Although, 55t is not a lot of mass for a nuclear tug. They should've gone for a bigger one, e.g. 125t+ and use a Don rocket to launch it. 

[DDE]

3 hours ago, sh1pman said:

They should've gone for a bigger one, e.g. 125t+ and use a Don rocket to launch it. 

Bad idea, methinks. Even more things need to happen correctly then.

13 hours ago, sh1pman said:

(I’ll get banned for this, but couldn’t resist)

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"I've outrun US starships, not the local bulk-cruisers, mind you. I'm talking about the big Ingalls ships now."

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[kerbiloid]

https://www.interfax.ru/russia/741603

The Military-Industrial Commission approved the artificial gravity project for the new Russian orbital station.

Energy Corp. was developing it as a pet project, but then the project with internal centrifuge was developed collectively.

The commission considers necessary the centrifugal module creation .

[DDE]

Plesetsk's been busy.

 

[sh1pman]

4 hours ago, DDE said:

Plesetsk's been busy.

 

“Continues to weaponize space?” But it’s a direct ascent anti-satellite missile. They should’ve said “continues to weaponize ground”. If I’m getting a gun to shoot ducks, I’m not weaponizing ducks!

[JoeSchmuckatelli]

https://images.app.goo.gl/2L2XrQUQbU4J49qVA

Gun Duck 

[kerbiloid]

8 hours ago, sh1pman said:

“Continues to weaponize space?” But it’s a direct ascent anti-satellite missile. They should’ve said “continues to weaponize ground”. If I’m getting a gun to shoot ducks, I’m not weaponizing ducks!

Unweaponizer.

[DDE]

22 hours ago, sh1pman said:

“Continues to weaponize space?” But it’s a direct ascent anti-satellite missile. They should’ve said “continues to weaponize ground”.

You jest, but it's the bone of contention between US and Russia and China, and their understanding nof arms control in space.

Edited December 17, 2020 by DDE

[RyanRising]

“@US_SpaceComstands ready to protect/defend US/allied interests from aggression in the space domain.”

Presumably ready with their own anti-satellite missiles. Not trying to defend any use of this stuff, but it’s rich how they’re criticising Russia for militarising space, from, you know, a US military space program. 

[kerbiloid]

5 hours ago, RyanRising said:

Presumably ready with their own anti-satellite missiles.

The "anti-(anti-satellite missile) missiles".

[DDE]

52 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

The "anti-(anti-satellite missile) missiles".

You jest, but I've seen at least one person proposing a "modest" (10000+) fleet of anti-ASAT interceptors to protect American satellites.

[kerbiloid]

8 minutes ago, DDE said:

You jest, but I've seen at least one person proposing a "modest" (10000+) fleet of anti-ASAT interceptors to protect American satellites.

Do we actually know everything about the Starlink equipment? 

Maybe they are going to rotate with the sail horizontally and make a global soild turtleshield?

Edited December 18, 2020 by kerbiloid

[YNM]

On 12/17/2020 at 6:24 AM, sh1pman said:

If I’m getting a gun to shoot ducks, I’m not weaponizing ducks!

Well, depends on how they get lodged in the duck... you'll have to worry of the unexploded ordnance... we'll need to defuse ducks !

[kerbiloid]

https://www.interfax.ru/world/742051

The ISS is about to get out of gas (the breathable one) , as the leaking place in Zvezda module is still not identified.
The crack, found earlier, may be not the leaking place.
The air is about to get depleted, they are now losing the safety reserve.

The specialists still have no idea, where is the leaking takes place, so probably the (transfer compartment? переходный отсек) will be kept closed, and this can make troubles in daily work.