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12 hours ago, TheMadKraken2297 said:

My current PC now lags in the VAB on 3 part ships :(

:/

Make low part count ships, like mine. If you exclude all the armour and make the hull out of only fuel tanks, then you can improve the speed and range, and drastically lower the parts. This one's one of the first (decent) ships I made:

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It's a mere 80 parts, and the D-V is over 100k

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These interceptor drones of mine get knocked out within seconds since they only have one intake, which just happens to be in the most exposed part: the front.

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Mediocre :P

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A mere three of my new Berzerker Drones can take out my frigates, and the frigate only destroys ONE plane before going down. The ship needs some work lol. It's not part count effective. Lots of pics in spoiler:

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yo, im not gonna be making anything for a time, might put something up but not now, K?

might make the most insane carrier and give it aircraft :P or can we make a naval air wing?

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On 11/13/2017 at 2:46 AM, Earthlinger said:

 

Make low part count ships, like mine. If you exclude all the armour and make the hull out of only fuel tanks, then you can improve the speed and range, and drastically lower the parts. 

Well 80 parts would make my Crap-Top catch on fire and the battery would explode, then melt through my desk and give me 5th degree burns;.;... But I get your point. Or the game would just crash and I would get a BSOD. Well, same difference :P

Edited by TheMadKraken2297
CAUSE FLIPPIN' REASONS. YALL NEED TO STOP QUESTIONING ME!

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Would any of y'all be so kind as to post a download file for a ship?  I'm thinking about making another ship w/ NAS and I want to test against yours.

 

Thanks,

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On ‎2017‎-‎11‎-‎12 at 11:38 AM, MiffedStarfish said:

I just had an idea. Do you think this challenge could be expanded by maybe doing fleets v fleets, say 3v3 ships, and a max tonnage? Also you could set up coastal emplacements and then have ships trying destroy/get past them. 

8 hours ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

might make the most insane carrier and give it aircraft :P or can we make a naval air wing?

Yeah, I think we should expand the challenge to include fleet battles and aircraft. As @MiffedStarfish said, 3v3, according to max tonnage or some other measuring factor. However, due to my computer's performance, I think we'd need to change 'max tonnage' to 'part count' lol :D

So there could be small 2v2 battles (which I would host, with a 100 part limit on each ship) or larger 3v3's with a higher part limit, which someone else would need to host. Aircraft could be used instead of ships, so for a 2v2 battle, one side could use all planes - though the planes' total part count would (all together) need to add up to no more than 100. Convenient for me, cause I have a couple of smallish anti-ship planes :P Thoughts/ideas for more detail and rules? :)

4 hours ago, TwinKerbal said:

Would any of y'all be so kind as to post a download file for a ship?  I'm thinking about making another ship w/ NAS and I want to test against yours.

Here are some: (in the spoiler)

*They do not include ammunition, so you have to place ammunition boxes manually, or the cannons will not work. They use BDA*

 

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If you want, I could host the larger part ones, as I am blessed with a functioning desktop. (I can run 1500ish parts, but with a pretty large frame rate drop) I can also film battles and upload them to YouTube. I’ll hopefully have a fleet to submit today, probably 1 or 2 new MMC-4B Castellums and a small carrier that can carry around 4-5 planes. I could host battles with maybe 800 parts a side max.

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6 hours ago, MiffedStarfish said:

If you want, I could host the larger part ones, as I am blessed with a functioning desktop. I can run (1500ish parts, but with a pretty large frame rate drop) I can also film battles and upload them to YouTube. I’ll hopefully have a fleet to submit today, probably 1 or 2 new MMC-4B Castellums and a small carrier that can carry around 4-5 planes. I could host battles with maybe 800 parts a side max.

Okay thanks, that would be much appreciated. I think we should still do a category for low part count ships. That way we might even be able to stage some 6v6's with 100 part ships :D

I'll work on some rules in a word document. I can post them here when I finish and we can make changes from there

EDIT: Finished. I have updated my first post

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hey guys, can we include NAS (Naval Artilery Systems) in the modlist? it would be super great, has so much useful stuff like mgs (swear i wont use the sph sized naval guns, just the aa and torps)

If so, I have a ton of stuff to add. Also, can we have a separate division for ww2 style combat? I can host it, but only every 2 weeks or so

I can handle up to 2200 parts, with severe lag and a real graphics drop

and on your frigate, use a different cannon instead of the milleniums. they just stop the lazers and they dont hit anything small at range.

lastly, im going to focus solely on air wings. If we are all using bda 1.0, then watch out for my torpedoes >:D

 

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stock built torps gone very very bad 
it flies off the water just after touching it
 

7 hours ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

hey guys, can we include NAS (Naval Artilery Systems) in the modlist? it would be super great, has so much useful stuff like mgs (swear i wont use the sph sized naval guns, just the aa and torps)

NAS should be a great idea, just wanna know that we're allowed to use it or not
i'll continue building my PTB

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I would be against NAS. Building stock hulls is more challenging, and NAS hulls are proabably stronger, so anyone who builds in stock would be left behind.

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@Sidestrafe2462@[INDO]dimas_1502 I agree with @MiffedStarfish. NAS would disadvantage stock craft, but feel free to use it for testing and for fun. Just keep in mind that the matches will not be considered 'official' and victories/defeats won't be considered real or legitimate

9 hours ago, Sidestrafe2462 said:

lastly, im going to focus solely on air wings

Have you checked the (newly-added) rules for the fleet battles? We could do a match with your planes :D

EDIT: By severe lag, do you guys mean 10 FPS, or something like 1, or even half a frame?

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I’m going to put up a fleet of... one MMC-4B Castellum. (And possibly a speedboat or 3 that I might maker later)  think it’s just over 400 parts, so it’ll have to be a large battle. I’ll be willing to fight other ships or attacking planes. The idea of 400 parts worth of planes slightly worries me though, could there be a limit for planes engaging at one time? So a ship can only be attacked by 3 or 4 planes at once? Just tag me if you want to battle, anyone.

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5 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

I’m going to put up a fleet of... one MMC-4B Castellum. (And possibly a speedboat or 3 that I might maker later)  think it’s just over 400 parts, so it’ll have to be a large battle. I’ll be willing to fight other ships or attacking planes. The idea of 400 parts worth of planes slightly worries me though, could there be a limit for planes engaging at one time? So a ship can only be attacked by 3 or 4 planes at once? Just tag me if you want to battle, anyone.

.........let's see....

400 divided by 30 parts.....roughly thirteen planes launching hydra rockets at your ships. Er....yeah that's excessive :D

My unarmoured frigates (which are supposed to be anti-plane craft) can barely handle two planes, but if your ships are armoured, we can bump it up to three planes per large ship. How many ships do you think you'll be deploying?

(Or we could do a sort of wave defence type battle) I have a plane you can try out:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e55zm8bx3m2gyht/Ordnance Drone - Hydra.craft?dl=0&m

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Well, I ran a combat scenario yesterday in which the Castellum fended off three ground attack planes without damage, so it should be all right. 

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/jQdNH

Thirteen is excessive though. It could maybe handle three or four at a time. We could maybe do some sort of port defense, but then the speedboats won’t be able to use their speed to their advantage. How about an escort mission? I could make a really low part count “civilian” ship, then set up the fleet aroundit protecting it, and if you destroy it then you win or get some bonus. 10 planes I think would be a good limit, so things are somewhat balanced.

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Just now, MiffedStarfish said:

Well, I ran a combat scenario yesterday in which the Castellum fended off three ground attack planes without damage, so it should be all right. 

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/jQdNH

Thirteen is excessive though. It could maybe handle three or four at a time. We could maybe do some sort of port defense, but then the speedboats won’t be able to use their speed to their advantage. How about an escort mission? I could make a really low part count “civilian” ship, then set up the fleet aroundit protecting it, and if you destroy it then you win or get some bonus. 10 planes I think would be a good limit, so things are somewhat balanced.

Nice battle btw :)

An escort mission is a good idea. We could do ten planes in waves of three or four, though it depends on how many ships you'll have protecting the civilian :P

In any case, I'd like to use the craft I posted above, along with this one:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eyil29rg68cn0ro/Berzerker Drone.craft?dl=0&m

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47 minutes ago, Earthlinger said:

@Sidestrafe2462@[INDO]dimas_1502 I agree with @MiffedStarfish. NAS would disadvantage stock craft, but feel free to use it for testing and for fun. Just keep in mind that the matches will not be considered 'official' and victories/defeats won't be considered real or legitimate

but how about just the weapons? the light ones

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5 minutes ago, [INDO]dimas_1502 said:

but how about just the weapons? the light ones

If it's NAS vs NAS, then it would be legitimate. BDA, however, is not meant to go up against NAS craft, so there will be disparities in stats, regardless of the weapons being used.

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I have built a speedboat, and checked the parts. my fleet totals up to about 435 parts, how many drones would that mean you have?

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8 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

I have built a speedboat, and checked the parts. my fleet totals up to about 435 parts, how many drones would that mean you have?

That would give me fourteen, which is too much, I think.

I can use 6 Berzerkers (162 parts) and 4 Ordnance drones (120 parts). Total part count on my side would be 282. The links to the downloads are here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eyil29rg68cn0ro/Berzerker Drone.craft?dl=0&m

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e55zm8bx3m2gyht/Ordnance Drone - Hydra.craft?dl=0&m

EDIT: If that's too much, then we can make a rule where planes only get half the part budget that ships do. So in this case, I would have 217 parts at my disposal

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thats seems ok. I'll stagger it so the bezerkers attack first, then the ordances drones. i haven't put a weapon manager on the cargo ship so the planes dont attack it, if the planes destroy all my forces then it'll be a win for you and I'll take control and destroy it. Are you okay with it being a video?

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5 minutes ago, MiffedStarfish said:

thats seems ok. I'll stagger it so the bezerkers attack first, then the ordances drones. i haven't put a weapon manager on the cargo ship so the planes dont attack it, if the planes destroy all my forces then it'll be a win for you and I'll take control and destroy it. Are you okay with it being a video?

Sounds good. Yeah I'm okay with it being in video format :D

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