insert_name Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 8 hours ago, p1t1o said: waiddasecond isnt he supposed to be like a god with a bow and arrow? Whats he doing with a gun? And surely impossible shots from the rooftops are his whole deal? Maybe I get it, a bit of an internal consistency thing. I mean really though, the show should be called "bullet" and he should have a rifle or a carbine. This was a sidekick 8 hours ago, Gargamel said: Well, if the hero can't make the same jump, then he's stuck. And firing at a moving target at that distance has a low probability of actually hitting him. Ricochet's and over shoots in a populated area are a bad thing (trust me, I know, I used to work in an urban trauma center). And if they want him alive, the chances of killing him if he does hit him is too great. Realism wise, I'm ok with this, but plot wise I guess it could be a bit jarring. Dangit, Ninja'd by @p1t1o! The street was totally deserted and in an abandoned industrial area late at night, also he was running in a straight line directly away from the sidekick. Also later this episode he executed the guy so he didn't care if he lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p1t1o Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) On 4/11/2018 at 9:28 AM, insert_name said: The street was totally deserted and in an abandoned industrial area late at night, also he was running in a straight line directly away from the sidekick. Also later this episode he executed the guy so he didn't care if he lived. It'd still be a tough shot to make. On 4/11/2018 at 9:28 AM, insert_name said: This was a sidekick So the guy with a gun is sidekick to guy with a bow and arrow? Thats my major problem. Hawkeye can go kick himself too. And every other leather-wrapped, nerd-porn bow wielder too. It just stretches suspension of disbelief too far. If you're a weapon guy (as opposed to a guy with powers) why handicap yourself? Also, a bow makes just about the worst striking weapon I can think of, but they're always whirling it around like ninjas [snip]. Edited October 23, 2018 by Snark Redacted by moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerikBalm Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I'd have to give DC comics some credit... this character makes a lot more sense than any of the "expert bowmen" heros: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadshot An expert bowman hero only really makes sense in the medieval setting... like Robin Hood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) OK... wow... I just watched this trailer, and I almost fell over myself laughing... This looks like it has the potential to be packing some really, really fun bad science!!! Enjoy Edited April 13, 2018 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Just Jim said: This looks like it has the potential to be packing some really, really fun bad science ! So, it's Jaws upscaled 10 times ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just now, YNM said: So, it's Jaws upscaled 10 times ? Looks about that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Just Jim said: OK... wow... I just watched this trailer, and I almost fell over myself laughing... This looks like it has the potential to be packing some really, really fun bad science!!! Enjoy Rule number 1: No names Rule number 2: The shark is the shark Rule number 3: Never open the submersible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 26 minutes ago, Just Jim said: OK... wow... I just watched this trailer, and I almost fell over myself laughing... This looks like it has the potential to be packing some really, really fun bad science!!! Enjoy At least its not a reboot, sequel, or adaptation... but its terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DAL59 said: At least its not a reboot, sequel, or adaptation... but its terrible. I'm still trying to figure out if it's supposed to be serious, or a sort of dark comedy... which is actually what got my attention. It looks really bad... but sometimes that can be really good... oh, and why it's so on-topic... Well, let's start with the "science" behind a not-so-extinct megalodon leaving huge teeth marks in an underwater dome... without shattering the dome... or it's teeth... sure.... Edited April 13, 2018 by Just Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, DAL59 said: At least its not a reboot, sequel, or adaptation... but its terrible. It's obvious what it's taking influence from... Could be argued to be a reboot/adaptation. Let's see... big dangerous sea creature that's not unlike a shark, crew on a boat, shouldn't be where it is... Smells fishy. Smells... sharky. Smells like... Jaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Expanse, including but not limited to s03e01. And many other sci-fi movies. I can see they use magnetic boots to walk on a ship surface. (Not just along catwalks or corridors which can contain steel parts). Why I can't attach a magnet to aluminium things? What I'm doing wrong? Or do they make their ships out of steel? Or in near future aluminium will become a ferromagnetic? Also Expanse, s02e(last) and s03e01. When the balloonoship diving into Venusian atmosphere breaks apart, why does it break apart? It should be squashed into a piece of junk. 90 atm, btw. When the marsogirl gets out of battery and activates the reserve power source of the suit, why does it need '"incoming missile" situation? No incoming missiles - no batteries? And why does she have her helmet lamps on — when she needs all battery power she has? It's not dark there. While she is walking along the ship, the main engines are working, so the ship is under acceleration. We can see that she helps herself with RCS mini-jets to climb forward. But we can never see her flying even on Ganymede. So, probably the acceleration is low, maybe ~0.001 g or so. Definitely < 0.1 g. This makes to ask: 1. Why she flies so fast when her magnetos can't hold her? And why such efforts hanging on hands aside the engine? 2. Why does she not even bend back standing perpendicular to the acceleration? I want her abs! (Or are her arms so weak? She has to struggle hanging along the acceleration, but stands straight standing perpendicular to it). 3. Why inside the non-rotating ship there is normal gravity? They have it switchable? When she smashes a metal plate with one beat, cracking four bolts (she doesn't screw them out, the plate just detaches), what is her glove made of? It isn't damaged. And probably the hull is still aluminium. So, not magnetic. And other metal plates, too. Why everything on this ship is so fragile? They don't have to use railguns and torpedoes, she could tear the ship apart just by hands. Btw why she ship surface is illuminated? They hope that somebody looks at them in binoculars? OK, say, their windows just give light because they are windows. But there are tens? hundreds? of lamps attached to the azure arcs when the marsogirl is getting into the escape boat dock. And why that lock handle has lamps on? Under the metal plate where nobody sees them. Is it an emergency handle? Then why you have to break the plate rather than just open it? Why does the escape boat stand perpendicular to the ship? We can see that the door slides along the ship axis. The marsogirl pushes the door halves standing also along. And the boat is perpendicular to the girl. But when it starts, it flies out along the ship, not perpendicular to it. Why are the stars flickering when we look at her from inside the dock? Such thick air in the ship? Why does the Martian combat suit have a hose dangling behind? Is it an aiguilette? And does it get hit by electricity every time she touches bare wires? Then why she breaks electric things here and there? When she breaks the boat ID plate, it sparkles, so short circuit is enough visible. Why those full-3d-rotating chairs? The arrow-like escape boat can fly sideways as fast as directly? What is the actual gravity direction on board of Rocinante Pinus? When it's docked (so under the orbital station acceleration), the rooms and corridors look parallel to the station floors. When it's in space, they are still walking along the same corridors, when the acceleration is probably along the corridor, not perpendicular. Not sure if Io is a nice place to gather 3He, Of course, it is Jup here, but Io is too hot for anything except sulfur oxides, what helium? Edited April 13, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerikBalm Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Why I can't attach a magnet to aluminium things? What I'm doing wrong? Or do they make their ships out of steel? Or in near future aluminium will become a ferromagnetic?es, what helium? Maybe its an alloy containing titanium? who knows what allows they are using.... there is enough uncertainty that this might pass. With their epstein drive, they won't have to worry about dry mass so much, but they would still worry about micro-meteorite impacts. Quote When the balloonoship diving into Venusian atmosphere breaks apart, why does it break apart? It should be squashed into a piece of junk. 90 atm, btw. Wind shear? its a thing, and when the air is that dense, it can be really powerful. The rest, I got nothing for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KerikBalm said: Maybe its an alloy containing titanium? Maybe. But then what are the gloves smashing the titanium alloys made of? Edited April 13, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerikBalm Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 an alloy with more titanium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARS Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 From "plan 9 from outer space", with hillariously bad science which claims that the sunlight is "composed of many atoms" and the nuclear explosion is created by splitting of an atom (read that again, it's not a kilogram of fissile material, it's a SINGLE atom, far too low for any appreciable minimum yield). Also, the neutron bomb (the one that they claim above as a nuclear bomb, which is a completely different type of bomb) is apparently powerful enough to destroy the sun, since the sun was made of many atoms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargamel Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Just Jim said: OK... wow... I just watched this trailer, and I almost fell over myself laughing... This looks like it has the potential to be packing some really, really fun bad science!!! Yup, saw this last night too. At first it seemed serious, then a littel funny, then deep into campy. It looks like it should be fun, but not taken seriously. 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: But then what are the gloves smashing the titanium alloys made of? Having worked in a fabrication shop that dealt mainly with titanium, I can tell you it is a fairly soft and malleable metal, when compared to steel. it won't hold an edge worth a damn, again compared to steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gargamel said: Having worked in a fabrication shop that dealt mainly with titanium, I can tell you it is a fairly soft and malleable metal, when compared to steel. it won't hold an edge worth a damn, again compared to steel. I don't argue with this. But then why use it instead of aluminium on future ship? Not for structure, but for cover. Afaik, Ti-Mo and other such alloys are strong, not pure Ti itself. 1 hour ago, KerikBalm said: an alloy with more titanium Martianium Edited April 13, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibb31 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, kerbiloid said: When the balloonoship diving into Venusian atmosphere breaks apart, why does it break apart? It should be squashed into a piece of junk. 90 atm, btw. It's not destroyed, it is "disassembled" part by part by the protomolecule... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 That makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ARS said: From "plan 9 from outer space" How about the fact that aliens arrive from distant stars, have presumably a lot of (and at least 9) plans for getting people to listen to them, and "raise the dead to scare everybody" is in the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) -Btw Expanse shows that carbon hulls failed. There in future ship hulls are metallic. *** 2 hours ago, ARS said: From "plan 9 from outer space", with hillariously bad science which claims that the sunlight is "composed of many atoms" http://discworld.wikia.com/wiki/Discworld Quote The Disc's magical field is centred on the Cori Celesti. Everyday natural forces, such as light and magnetism, are muffled by the power of the Disc's magical field, and rather than a magnetised needle, navigators on the Disc use a compass with a needle of the magical metal octiron, which will always point towards Cori Celesti. Light is so oddly affected by magic, as it passes into the Disc's atmosphere, it actually slows down from millions to hundreds of miles an hour. One odd effect of this is that the Disc has time zones, when, as a flat world, it shouldn't. Another effect is that, as reported in Thud!, the red- and blue-shifting of light becomes noticeable when travelling at speeds of merely a hundred and twenty miles per hour. Edited April 13, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Just Jim said: I'm still trying to figure out if it's supposed to be serious, or a sort of dark comedy... which is actually what got my attention. The book said it's "action w/ sci-fi". But not even Moonraker or The Spy Who Loved Me goes that deep the sci-fi side. I guess it just tried to be Moby Dick, extended, modernized. 2 hours ago, ARS said: plan 9 from outer space Not surprised, they weren't even able to shoot nightscenes at nightime, back then, I believe ! Edited April 13, 2018 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 No particular reason for Expanse ships not to be made of steel. It's cheap, strong, easy to work with, and with their magic engines, probably they don't need the strength-to-mass ratios of aluminum or carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 13 hours ago, kerbiloid said: Why everything on this ship is so fragile? They don't have to use railguns and torpedoes, she could tear the ship apart just by hands. Mass matters in space. A railgun will pass through the ship whether it has armor or not. 13 hours ago, kerbiloid said: When it's docked (so under the orbital station acceleration), the rooms and corridors look parallel to the station floors. When it's in space, they are still walking along the same corridors, when the acceleration is probably along the corridor, not perpendicular. The angles make sense if it you look at it. 13 hours ago, kerbiloid said: Btw why she ship surface is illuminated? They hope that somebody looks at them in binoculars? EVAs 13 hours ago, kerbiloid said: Why does she not even bend back standing perpendicular to the acceleration? I want her abs! She is in a mechsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, DAL59 said: EVAs There is nobody on the deck except her. Why should the lamps be on awaiting for somebody once per year? 9 minutes ago, DAL59 said: 13 hours ago, kerbiloid said: Why does she not even bend back standing perpendicular to the acceleration? I want her abs! She is in a mechsuit. Why the mechsuit has so weak arms that she has to struggle when hanging at the same place where she stands without efforts? 10 minutes ago, DAL59 said: Mass matters in space. Especially if look at samurai statue or so and other decorations onboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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