DAL59 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, Canopus said: It is able to land on a planet that is apparently moving at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light. The technology in that thing alone should have solved all problems the earth had in the first place. They slingshotted around a neutron star, remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Canopus said: It is able to land on a planet that is apparently moving at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light. The technology in that thing alone should have solved all problems the earth had in the first place. This. They have Star Trek shuttlecraft, and they worry about maybe colonizing a world bathed in radiation around a supermassive BH moving at relativistic speeds instead of just fixing their issue. If they can grow crops on a space habitat (shown later in the film), they can grow crops in bubbles on Earth. 1 minute ago, DAL59 said: They slingshotted around a neutron star, remember? All so they could still get home in time... by crossing an event horizon of a BH. Because they had to check out a world that was uninhabitable for no other reason than its location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, tater said: ll so they could still get home in time... by crossing an event horizon of a BH. This was earlier in the film. They were just getting near it to go to the water planet. Yes, it was a terrible decision, but they did want to save Dr. Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (Still nobody mentioned Gravity. Because this would be so much obscenely...) "Expanse": * direction of artificial gravity inside the ship doesn't match the rotation plane. * extreme accelerations requiring a teeth protector in the first series (then they got bored to show this circus and removed this from the movie) "The Hundred": * the same with gravity * purple hydrazine from a fuel tank * a glass of hydrazine explodes like a ton bomb * nuclear plants around the world are bursting at once flooding the Earth with a wall of fire * radiation is so magic, that it would need a screen page to list all its magic features "Babylon 5" * mismatch between the sky rotation and gravity direction in the command post "Harry Potter" (whole series) * the magic doesn't work that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, DAL59 said: They slingshotted around a neutron star, remember? I've seen the movie only once but remember that they left that one guy on board of the mothership, then boarded the shuttle and after returning something like 10 years have passed. pretty sure without some neutron star slingshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Canopus said: You see it mentioned among hard sci-fi movies very often though. And the Story itself? "Oh no, all the crops are dying, lets find a replacement planet behind this mystery wormhole." Not that great either, atleast if you ask me. You can't go through a wormhole, the best you can do is have two people jump into very large entangled black holes separated by immense distance, the cross the event horizon have a spot to tea and discuss politics suddenly realize that their motion is time-like and about plank's time later blink. You can communicate across a worm hole maybe, in which case the worm hole is destroyed and it requires communication around the worm hole at the same time so whats the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, PB666 said: You can't go through a wormhole, the best you can do is have two people jump into very large entangled black holes separated by immense distance, the cross the event horizon have a spot to tea and discuss politics suddenly realize that their motion is time-like and about plank's time later blink. You can communicate across a worm hole maybe, in which case the worm hole is destroyed and it requires communication around the worm hole at the same time so whats the point. Why are you telling me this? I didn't write interstellar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: extreme accelerations requiring a teeth protector in the first series (then they got bored to show this circus and removed this from the movie) So? Its not like they were ignoring the hazards, they did almost die in s1e5. 3 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: direction of artificial gravity inside the ship doesn't match the rotation plane. Example? 3 minutes ago, Canopus said: I've seen the movie only once but remember that they left that one guy on board of the mothership, then boarded the shuttle and after returning something like 10 years have passed. pretty sure without some neutron star slingshot. The ranger undocked, slingshotted around the neutron star to get to the wave world, stayed for 3 hours/21 years, and then returned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DAL59 said: 5 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: direction of artificial gravity inside the ship doesn't match the rotation plane. Example? Almost every time when they land/dock on the top surface of a rotating torus. They should stick to the side wall. Instead, they are walking on the floor. Edited January 30, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, DAL59 said: This was earlier in the film. They were just getting near it to go to the water planet. Yes, it was a terrible decision, but they did want to save Dr. Miller. The water planet would never have had Dr. Miller on it, as no one would have bothered to even look at it in the first place, because it's so close to an obscene source of ionizing radiation. Shouldn't have even have water, I'd bet it boils off. 4 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Still nobody mentioned Gravity. I was gonna say that Gravity might be better than Interstellar, lol. If Anne Hathaway had been in yoga shorts, however... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Canopus said: Why are you telling me this? I didn't write interstellar. Yes, and it also eliminates Star-gates also, all they are is programmable worm holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, kerbiloid said: Almost every time when they land/dock on the top surface of a rotating torus. They should stick to the side wall. Instead, they are walking on the floor. In B5 they flew into some docking bay which was not rotating... then they'd get out and walk around (it's been a while). yeah, makes no sense. Other races in B5 have gravity control on ships, perhpas they can make artificial gravity on small scale. Never bothered thinking about it, lol. Just now, PB666 said: Yes, and it also eliminates Star-gates also, all they are is programmable worm holes. Breaking some real physics is fine for a far-flung science fiction work. Just don;t break ALL of physics. FTL drives are a standard here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: lmost every time when they land/dock on the top surface of a rotating torus. They should stick to the side wall. Instead, they are walking on the floor. Docking to that side does work though, though it would take strong rcs. They are walking on the correct surface though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, tater said: Breaking some real physics is fine for a far-flung science fiction work. Just don;t break ALL of physics. FTL drives are a standard here. They should only be allowed to break one physics rule per movie, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The expanse does have sound in space, but it does't have artificial gravity, and has newtonian physics, so it is sadly the only current accuratish show. The battles also aren't at point blank range. Also, great cinematography in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL91pF2OHVo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, tater said: If Anne Hathaway had been in yoga shorts, however... And by the way about the shorts. Expectations. Spoiler Reality. Spoiler Btw. Still can't get if those straps over their shoulders are this Spoiler ...or this Spoiler Anyway, they should be attached to something another than ti...ps of the breasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, PB666 said: They should only be allowed to break one physics rule per movie, lol. Yeah, so the wormhole or a stargate would have been fine. the rest... nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, Canopus said: It is able to land on a planet that is apparently moving at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light. Hohmann transfer ? 27 minutes ago, tater said: If you can launch a SSTO that has propellant tanks the size of a water cooler (they must be at least that big, right?), then you don't need other, stupid LVs. Yeah, but damn it looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just watched the S2 opening on YT for B5. The command deck window is actually on the rotating part, their heads are towards the axis of rotation (up), so that part is fine. The ships come in on the non-rotating spine... Think in the show they show people exiting in the rotating section, not leaving ships. They are in 0 g on the spine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jim Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Codraroll said: Geostorm. Half a minute into the film I stopped looking for scientific errors, and began looking for things they got right instead. Despite my best effort, I couldn't find anything. Anything. I haven't seen this yet, but I read a review just a few days ago that listed this as So terribly bad you can use it to throw a "Bad-Movie" party... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, tater said: All so they could still get home in time... by crossing an event horizon of a BH. The only one that did was the father, and that's meant for staging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, YNM said: Hohmann transfer ? What about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, YNM said: Hohmann transfer ? A relativistic hohmann would be a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, YNM said: Yeah, but damn it looks good. The Saturn/Ares paint job looks like crappy reused footage. Just now, YNM said: The only one that did was the father, and that's meant for staging. Doesn't matter, his concerns about time vanish, even if you magically allow him to live, for the same reason going to the water world was a problem, except (literally) infinitely worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 40 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: A relativistic hohmann would be a thing. Yeah but just as ridiculous when it comes to Delta v requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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