How many buttons is too many buttons? (controller)

[westleyTwain]

Hello there! I'm trying to set up a complicated vJoy script, but for it to work the way I need it to, I need the virtual controller to have 28 buttons and 5 axes. (28 buttons because I want a double-click to give a different output, and I want the POV hat buttons to act as buttons, not axes.) I'm using FreePIE to write a script that takes xbox 360 controller inputs and map them to the vJoy controller, but I need to know 2 things before I know this process can succeed:

A) How many buttons will KSP recognize from 1 controller, and

B) Can KSP tell the difference between an xbox 360 controller and a separate vJoy controller?

any help is greatly appreciated!

EDIT: I have workarounds for if KSP allows fewer than 28 buttons (create a second vJoy controller to output to) and if KSP only recognizes 1 controller at a time (make 1 vJoy controller with 38 buttons, leaving the 1st 10 blank, as they are the raw 360 inputs)

EDIT 2: I have proved that KSP 1.2.2 can tell a 360 controller apart from a vJoy controller by mapping the POV hat buttons to vJoy buttons.

Edited March 7, 2018 by westleyTwain
to explain theoretical workarounds

[53miner53]

1 hour ago, westleyTwain said:

Hello there! I'm trying to set up a complicated vJoy script, but for it to work the way I need it to, I need the virtual controller to have 28 buttons and 5 axes. (28 buttons because I want a double-click to give a different output, and I want the POV hat buttons to act as buttons, not axes.) I'm using FreePIE to write a script that takes xbox 360 controller inputs and map them to the vJoy controller, but I need to know 2 things before I know this process can succeed:

A) How many buttons will KSP recognize from 1 controller, and

B) Can KSP tell the difference between an xbox 360 controller and a separate vJoy controller?

any help is greatly appreciated!

EDIT: I have workarounds for if KSP allows fewer than 28 buttons (create a second vJoy controller to output to) and if KSP only recognizes 1 controller at a time (make 1 vJoy controller with 28 buttons, leaving the 1st 10 blank, as they are the raw 360 inputs)

1: not sure, but I think it is more than the 28 you’ll be using because a keyboard has more than 28 keys and I don’t think KSP cares if it is a keyboard or a controller 

2: I think it can, but I don’t think it matters because I think it accepts the inputs it is given, even if it is from multiple controllers. 

Note: only have experience from KSP and an Xbox one controller alongside 2 keyboards and a touchscreen. 

Also: welcome to the forums!

Edited March 7, 2018 by 53miner53

[westleyTwain]

@53miner53thank you! also I was able to put together a script which maps the POV hat buttons to a vJoy controller with 4 buttons, indexed 0-3. It works! now I can use the d-pad buttons as actual buttons. I can share the script and/or my button layout if anyone's interested.

[invision]

the Atari jaguar controller got you covered

 

[Dafni]

Just a heads up for you. If you use more than one controller at the same time, you will run into this issue. Lets hope it is fixed in 1.4

 

[Archgeek]

How many is too many?  I use keyboard, so I'd say 102-108 buttons should be fine.  128 might be a little much.